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Fine-tuning of the universe should be taught in school

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As a mental health initiative. When I (O’Leary for News) first heard Bill Nye the Science Guy screaming on the video, I thought he was having a nervous breakdown:

In the fourth episode of the Science Uprising series of short films, cosmologist Lawrence Krauss informs us, arms waving up and down, “If you were designing a universe for life, I suspect that you would design it differently. There is no evidence to design or purpose to our universe.”

Cut to a figure shrieking unintelligibly from the podium at an American Humanist Association meeting, “I suck!” He appears—admittedly, this is entirely a matter of perception from a distance of time and place—to be having (or pretending?) a nervous breakdown.

The figure turns out to be science media personality Bill Nye the Science Guy, named Humanist of the Year in 2010. In the organization’s magazine, he enlarges on the depressing theme, “I suck”. Denyse O’Leary, “Believing in a Purposeful World Is Good Mental Health!” at Mind Matters News

Of course, he may have been doing it for effect. He is, at times, a bit of a showman. That said, if he effectively created the impression, he succeeded in raising the question.

We cut to science notable Freeman Dyson arguing for the fine-tuning of the universe. But, listening to Bill Nye scream “I suck,” one can’t help thinking that believing that we live in a meaningless universe may be a mental health hazard.

See also: What becomes of science when the evidence does not matter?

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Babylon Bee: Earth cools due to Bill Nye’s ego

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6 Replies to “Fine-tuning of the universe should be taught in school

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    daveS says:

    But for the record, Bill Nye really does suck. That is, he is a jerk IRL.

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    bornagain77 says:

    The Copernican Principle and/or the principle of mediocrity has been to primary means, cosmologically speaking, by which atheists have tried to insinuate that our lives no ultimate meaning or purpose, i.e. ““I suck”.

    Copernican principle
    Excerpt: In physical cosmology, the Copernican principle, is an alternative name of the mediocrity principle,,, stating that humans (the Earth, or the Solar system) are not privileged observers of the universe.[1]
    Named for Copernican heliocentrism, it is a working assumption that arises from a modified cosmological extension of Copernicus’s argument of a moving Earth.[2] In some sense, it is equivalent to the mediocrity principle.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_principle

    Carl Sagan coined the term ‘principle of mediocrity’ to refer to the idea that scientists should assume that nothing is special about humanity’s situation
    https://books.google.com/books?id=rR5BCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA187#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Mediocrity principle
    Excerpt: The (Mediocrity) principle has been taken to suggest that there is nothing very unusual about the evolution of the Solar System, Earth’s history, the evolution of biological complexity, human evolution, or any one nation. It is a heuristic in the vein of the Copernican principle, and is sometimes used as a philosophical statement about the place of humanity. The idea is to assume mediocrity, rather than starting with the assumption that a phenomenon is special, privileged, exceptional, or even superior.[2][3]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediocrity_principle

    Yet, besides the extreme fine tuning of the universe, there are now several lines of evidence, including both General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, our two most powerful theories in science, that have now, in no uncertain terms, overturned the Copernican Principle, and/or the Principle of mediocrity as being a valid principle in science.

    (April 2019) Thus in conclusion, the new interactive graph by Dr. Dembski provides a powerful independent line of evidence, along with several other powerful lines of evidence (from General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics), that overturns the Copernican principle (and/or the Principle of Mediocrity), and restores humanity back to centrality in the universe, and even, when putting all those lines of evidence together, brings modern science back, full circle, to Christianity from whence it originated in the first place.
    https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/bill-dembski-and-colleagues-create-an-updated-magnifying-the-universe-tool/#comment-675730

    Perhaps one of the more interesting lines of evidence to recently come forward, that has directly undermined the Copernican principle, has been the ‘anomalies’ in the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) that ‘strangely’ line up with the earth and solar system.

    Here is an excellent clip from the documentary “The Principle” that explains, in an easy to understand manner, how these ‘anomalies’ were found, via ‘averaging out’, in the tiny temperature variations in the CMBR data.

    Cosmic Microwave Background Proves Intelligent Design (disproves Copernican principle) (clip of “The Principle”) – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htV8WTyo4rw

    In other words, the CMBR itself reveals teleology, (i.e. a goal directed purpose, a plan), that specifically included the earth from the beginning of the universe. ,,, The earth, from what our best science can now tell us, is not some random cosmic fluke as atheists had presupposed.

    In other words, as far as our best evidence from cosmology can tell us, Bill Nye, nor anyone else on this planet really ‘sucks’, ALL of our lives have a very deep meaning, significance, and purpose, that is imparted onto them by God almighty Himself, the Creator of heaven and earth. Why dogmatic atheists would fight tooth and nail against such wonderful, indeed beautiful, news I have no idea.

    Genesis 1:1
    – In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

    1 Corinthians 2:9
    But just as it is written, “Things that no eye has seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, are the things God has prepared for those who love him.”

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    AaronS1978 says:

    “But for the record, Bill Nye really does suck. That is, he is a jerk IRL.“

    Loved this guy when I was a kid, watched him every Sunday morning before I went to church, (yup)

    Years later I find out what kind of a jerk he really is

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    bornagain77 says:

    PavelU, the article that you linked to cites the Copernican principle as the supposedly ‘discouraging news for the ID folks’ that you alluded to,,,

    Our Quest for Meaning in the Heavens – June 28, 2019
    For space flight is the culmination of a centuries-long revolution in the way we think about the cosmos, one that began in the 16th and 17th centuries with the scientific work of Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo and Newton. By the time that revolution was complete, humanity had learned that Earth is not the center of the universe but simply a planet circling an ordinary star, one of countless stars in a galaxy that is one of countless galaxies. There is no essential difference between what happens “down here” on Earth and “up there” in the sky. Newton’s theory of gravity showed that the force that causes an apple to fall to the ground is identical to the force that causes Jupiter to circle the sun.
    Almost as soon as these ideas became current, thinkers recognized that they posed a serious metaphysical challenge. Astronomy doesn’t disprove religion, of course, but it does present problems for those who want to see an intelligible message in the cosmos. In the early 17th century, the English poet John Donne observed that humanity had lost its bearings in the universe: “The sun is lost, and the earth, and no man’s wit/Can well direct him where to look for it.”,,,
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/our-quest-for-meaning-in-the-heavens-11561733749

    And yet PavelU, if you would have read post 2 before posting that article you would have found out that the Copernican principle has been, in no uncertain terms, overturned as a valid principle in science.

    Post 2
    https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/fine-tuning-of-the-universe-should-be-taught-in-school/#comment-679618

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    john_a_designer says:

    I agree with Bill Nye. If his materialistic world view is true then we are nothing more than insignificant specs. However, there is no evidence that his materialistic world view is true. What I find sad and troubling is he thinks our insignificance is a big joke. Atheists philosophers like Nietzsche, Sartre and Camus didn’t see it that way. At least they were somewhat honest. But maybe Nye is on something.

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