Web site honours Phillip Johnson’s Darwin on Trial

You think that Darwinists would really be concerned by this man, given the quotes attributed to him by DrRec? His type plays right into their hands surely? Timbo

DrREC, I cannot deny what does not exist. So your accusation of a "blanket denial" is a fool's folly. Joseph

Why so much hostility? Get a grip. I came to the conclusion as an engineer in multiple engineering disciplines that the Darwinian mechanism of random errors filtered by natural selection is a hopelessly pathetic hypothesis regarding the obviously highly sophisticated technology found in biological systems. Apparently, Antony Flew came to the same conclusion shortly before his death. I have followed the evidence to a reasonable design inference. You have followed unsupported speculation to an unreasonable conclusion that design cannot be considered as a possible explanation. GilDodgen

"Magic Johnson is HIV positive and does not have AIDS" I'm sure that has nothing to do with the outstanding medical treatment and drugs he has received while acting as a GlaxoSmithKline spokesperson. "and your position doesn’t have any science." LOL. Blanket denial. DrREC

eigenstate:

That’s all just how ideologies work, I guess, but just setting aside the poverty of these three books in terms of science, it’s striking to me that the truth about key scientific questions rests (or rested) on great part on explicitly non-scientific, non-merit-based criteria.

Umm those books exposed the poverty in terms of science, pertaining to the theory of evolution. Strange that through all of your babbling you cannot produce 1) a testable hypothesis pertaining to the proposed mechanisms nor 2) positive scientific evidence for your position.

He neatly embodies the most compelling criticisms of the movement from the pro-science faction.

WHAT pro-science faction? You cannot be talking about evolutionary "scientists" who don't have any science to support their position. But thanks- you continued babble proves that is all your position has to offer. Joseph

Evolutionists sure as heck shouldn't admire that book. Joseph

Magic Johnson is HIV positive and does not have AIDS and your position doesn't have any science. Joseph

No one here seems to admire Michael Denton's follow-up book, Nature's Destiny. Petrushka

@GilDodgen

While reading the comments of the detractors it became transparently obvious that they were in a state of panic and desperation at the thought that they had been exposed as charlatans who were selling snake oil in the name of science.

That's quite a damning admission, that that influenced you just as much as any meritorious content in the book you identified. A friend who regularly sends me links to that wonderful hub of political opinion 'FreeRepublic.com' in hopes that that will somehow influence me (I guess) likes to remind me that the "Flak is always worst when you are over the target!!", and that blistering criticism of the right wing idol of the day is really just reassuring signs that the "enemy" is "afraid" and acting out of desperation to destroy what they see as their imminent undoing. Etc. That's just a regular feauture of partisan psychology, isn't it? On any side of these issues? In any case, that's "psychological conflict" taking place of investigation on the merits, political inferences nudging out science (if science even ever had a place at the table). As a Christian, I and my friends took a lot of encouragement and "faith building" out of this kind of armchair psychology. When we were really walking with God, really following his will, and "abiding in Christ", the Enemy was outraged, and kicked his satanic attacks on us into high gear. These trials and tribulations were a comforting sign to us, even as they were trials, that were being faithful, courageous servants of the Lord, and those attacks just proved all the more how our Enemy, and enemies (lost unbelieving people, not Satan) were really just terrified because they knew that the Battle Had Been Won by Christ, Victorious, etc. That's all just how ideologies work, I guess, but just setting aside the poverty of these three books in terms of science, it's striking to me that the truth about key scientific questions rests (or rested) on great part on explicitly non-scientific, non-merit-based criteria. I welcome the elevation (or resurrection) of Phillip Johnson as a leading light and authority on ID. He neatly embodies the most compelling criticisms of the movement from the pro-science faction. ID as "out of the closet" pressure politics on cultural and religious questions -- leaving that cheap tuxedo behind for the vestments it feels so much more comfortable in -- serves everyone involved, I think. eigenstate

Darwinists cannot stand to have the flaws in their 'theory' exposed and must protect it from scientific scrutiny and criticism. Bravo to Johnson!! Blue_Savannah

Is this the HIV-denialist, "Wedge Document" Phillip Johnson? "We are taking an intuition most people have (the belief in God) and making it a scientific and academic enterprise. We are removing the most important cultural roadblock to accepting the role of God as creator." "Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools." "This isn't really, and never has been a debate about science. It's about religion and philosophy." Thanks! DrREC

The three books that most influenced me: Michael Denton's Evolution: A Theory in Crisis Phillip Johnson's Darwin on Trial Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box Interestingly enough, it was the attacks on these authors (often personal) and their evidence, argumentation and logic, that influenced me just as much. While reading the comments of the detractors it became transparently obvious that they were in a state of panic and desperation at the thought that they had been exposed as charlatans who were selling snake oil in the name of science. Snake-oil panic is a sure sign that a pseudoscientist has been outed. GilDodgen