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In this post, I’m going to assume that the only freedom worth having is libertarian free will: the free will I possess if there are choices that I have made during my life where I could have chosen differently, under identical circumstances. That is, I believe that libertarian free will is incompatible with determinism. By contrast, indeterminism is compatible with the existence of libertarian freedom, but in no way implies it.

There are some people who think that even if your choices are fully determined by your circumstances, they are still free, if you selected them for a reason and if you are capable of being educated to act for better reasons. People who think like that are known as compatibilists. I’m not one of them; I’m an incompatibilist. Specifically, I’m what an agent-causal incompatibilist: I believe that humans have a kind of agency (an ability to act) that cannot be explained in terms of physical events.

Some time ago, I came across The Cogito Model of human freedom, on The Information Philosopher Web site, by Dr. Roddy Doyle. The Website represents a bold philosophical attempt to reconcile the valid insights underlying both determinism and indeterminism. The authors of the model argue that it accords well with the findings of quantum theory, and guarantees humans libertarian freedom, but at the same time avoids the pitfall of making chance the cause of our actions. Here’s an excerpt:

Our Cogito model of human freedom combines microscopic quantum randomness and unpredictability with macroscopic determinism and predictability, in a temporal sequence.

Why have philosophers been unable for millennia to see that the common sense view of human freedom is correct? Partly because their logic or language preoccupation makes them say that either determinism or indeterminism is true, and the other must be false. Our physical world includes both, although the determinism we have is only an adequate description for large objects. So any intelligible explanation for free will must include both indeterminism and adequate determinism.

At first glance, Dr. Doyle’s Cogito Model appears to harmonize well with the idea of libertarian free will. Doyle makes a point of disavowing determinism, upholding indeterminism, championing Aristotle, admiring Aquinas and upholding libertarian free will. However, it turns out that he’s no Aristotelian, and certainly no Thomist. Indeed, he isn’t even a bona fide incompatibilist. Nevertheless, Doyle’s Cogito Model is a highly instructive one, for it points the way to how a science-friendly, authentically libertarian account of freedom might work.

There are passages on Dr. Doyle’s current Web site (see for instance paragraphs 3 and 4 of his page on Libertarianism) where he appears to suggest that our character and our values determine our actions. This is of course absurd: if I could never act out of character, then I could not be said to have a character. I would be a machine.

Misleadingly, in his Web page on Libertarianism, Dr. Doyle conflates the incoherent view that “an agent’s decisions are not connected in any way with character and other personal properties” (which is surely absurd) with the entirely distinct (and reasonable) view that “one’s actions are not determined by anything prior to a decision, including one’s character and values, and one’s feelings and desires” (emphases mine). Now, I have no problem with the idea that my bodily actions are determined by my will, which is guided by my reason. However, character, values, feelings and desires are not what makes an action free – especially as Doyle makes it quite clear in his Cogito Model that he envisages all these as being ultimately determined by non-rational, physicalistic causes:

Macro Mind is a macroscopic structure so large that quantum effects are negligible. It is the critical apparatus that makes decisions based on our character and values.

Information about our character and values is probably stored in the same noise-susceptible neural circuits of our brain…

The Macro Mind has very likely evolved to add enough redundancy, perhaps even error detection and correction, to reduce the noise to levels required for an adequate determinism.

The Macro Mind corresponds to natural selection by highly determined organisms.

There is a more radical problem with Doyle’s model: he acknowledges the reality of downward causation, but because he is a materialist, he fails to give a proper account of downward causation. He seems to construe it in terms of different levels of organization in the brain: Macro Mind (“a macroscopic structure so large that quantum effects are negligible… the critical apparatus that makes decisions based on our character and values”) and Micro Mind (“a random generator of frequently outlandish and absurd possibilities”) – the latter being susceptible to random quantum fluctuations, from which the former makes a rational selection.

Doyle goes on to say:

Our decisions are then in principle predictable, given knowledge of all our past actions and given the randomly generated possibilities in the instant before decision. However, only we know the contents of our minds, and they exist only within our minds. Thus we can feel fully responsible for our choices, morally and legally.

This passage leads me to conclude that Doyle is a sort of compatibilist, after all. As I’ve said, I’m not.

So how do I envisage freedom? I’d like to go back to a remark by Karl Popper, in his address entitled, Natural Selection and the Emergence of Mind, delivered at Darwin College, Cambridge, November 8, 1977. Let me say at the outset that I disagree with much of what Popper says. However, I think he articulated a profound insight when he said:

A choice process may be a selection process, and the selection may be from some repertoire of random events, without being random in its turn. This seems to me to offer a promising solution to one of our most vexing problems, and one by downward causation.

Let’s get back to the problem of downward causation. How does it take place? The eminent neurophysiologist and Nobel prize winner, Sir John Eccles, openly advocated a “ghost in the machine” model in his book Facing Reality, 1970 (pp. 118-129). He envisaged that the “ghost” operates on neurons that are momentarily poised close to a threshold level of excitability.

But that’s not how I picture it.

My model of libertarian free will

Reasoning and choosing are indeed immaterial processes: they are actions that involve abstract, formal concepts. (By the way, computers don’t perform formal operations; they are simply man-made material devices that are designed to mimic these operations. A computer is no more capable of addition than a cash register, an abacus or a Rube Goldberg machine.)

Reasoning is an immaterial activity. This means that reasoning doesn’t happen anywhere – certainly not in some spooky Cartesian soul hovering 10 centimeters above my head. It has no location. Ditto for choice. However, choices have to be somehow realized on a physical level, otherwise they would have no impact on the world. The soul doesn’t push neurons, as Eccles appears to think; instead, it selects from one of a large number of quantum possibilities thrown up at some micro level of the brain (Doyle’s micro mind). This doesn’t violate quantum randomness, because a selection can be non-random at the macro level, but random at the micro level. The following two rows of digits will serve to illustrate my point.

1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1
0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1

The above two rows of digits were created by a random number generator. Now suppose I impose the macro requirement: keep the columns whose sum equals 1, and discard the rest. I now have:

1 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0

Each row is still random, but I have imposed a non-random macro-level constraint. That’s how my will works when I make a choice.

For Aristotelian-Thomists, a human being is not two things – a soul and a body – but one being, capable of two radically different kinds of acts – material acts (which other animals are also capable of) and formal, immaterial actions, such as acts of choice and deliberation. In practical situations, immaterial acts of choice are realized as a selection from one of a large number of randomly generated possible pathways.

On a neural level, what probably happens when an agent decides to raise his/her arm is this: the arm goes through a large number of micro-level muscular movements (tiny twitches) which are randomly generated at the quantum level. The agent tries these out over a very short interval of time (a fraction of a second) before selecting the one which feels right – namely, the one which matches the agent’s desire to raise his/her arm. This selection continues during the time interval over which the agent raises his/her arm. The wrong (randomly generated quantum-level) micro-movements are continually filtered out by the agent.

The agent’s selection usually reflect his/her character, values and desires (as Doyle proposes) – but on occasion, it may not. We can and do act out of character, and we sometimes act irrationally. Our free will is not bound to act according to reason, and sometimes we act contrary to it (akrasia, or weakness of will, being a case in point).

So I agree with much of what Doyle has to say, but with this crucial difference: I do not see our minds as having been formed by the process of natural selection. Since thinking is an immaterial activity, any physicalistic account of its origin is impossible in principle.

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VJ, what exactly is your objection to substance dualism? You claim to have solved the only major problem with it.tragic mishap
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So, how is it that anything but libertarian free will is even possible?Mung
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vjtorley: I would argue strongly, however, that operations such as thinking and willing are not carried out in some higher dimension. Agreed. I was not suggesting human thinking and willing occur beyond 3-D, but rather that "spirits" can and do mediate between the mind and body; specifically the human spirit mediating between an immaterial mind/soul and the 3-D physical body, and further that non-human spirits when they manifest in our 3-D space can likewise mediate between the human mind/soul and the human body, and implicitly, angels never do so (out of obedience to God and respect for His creations) but demonic spirits do so whenever given an opportunity. Regardless of whether you think they can move physical objects or not, thinking and willing are non-physical operations. Agreed. For a good summary of the main arguments for the immateriality of the soul, with lots of links to good philosophical articles, see here . I agree the soul is immaterial, and in my 'model' (scant as it is) the mind is included in the soul. It is in our soul that our personality distinctions exist such as our likes/dislikes, attitudes, intentions, some intellectual capacities, and maybe our identity, but in our spirit resides our "conscience", our sense of moral right and wrong and maybe our identity, and further that our spirit somehow interfaces between God's Holy Spirit and our mind/soul and physical body. To borrow a computer analogy, the body is like hardware, the mind/soul is like heuristic software, and the spirit is like device drivers/adapters [obviously, the analogy can not be pushed very far]. At least one problem with my 'model' is that a spirit is required in all organisms to interface between the mind and body, but biblically, only mankind has a spirit, though obviously animals have personalities and minds which exert decisions on voluntary muscles, which seemingly would argue for animal spirits in my model (which argument contradicts the bible, IMO). The Scriptural support [for man's triune nature] is a bit meager (1 Thessalonians 5:23 and Hebrews 4:12, as I recall). There is also Gen 1:26 that man is created in God's image, Rom 8:16 "The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God", and Rom 9:1 "my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit" to supplement the already admitted dual nature of man. In any case, I hope you would agree that God is incorporeal and can move things by His will alone. Agreed, God can. But does he without exception, must he without exception? Regarding paralysis and amputated limbs, my question went to your original point:
the arm goes through a large number of micro-level muscular movements (tiny twitches) which are randomly generated at the quantum level. The agent tries these out over a very short interval of time
In paralysis and amputated limbs, such "twitches" are non-existant, yes?, and hence nothing for the agent to try out, yes?Charles
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Vivid: Thank you for clarifying. And, for me, it does matter :)gpuccio
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gp re 21 I can see from how I worded my question how you would think that I have made a conclusion about your point of view but I have not.Thanks for clarifying. As for the rest of your post I pretty much agree with it, not that it matters :) Vividvividbleau
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Vivid: I am not a theologian, but I don't agree with your conclusion about my point of view. It is perfectly possible that, in our human condition, "peccare" is the only way to describe our possible actions, as our level of freedom is not so big that our free option be not, in any way, "tainted" by our human nature. And yet, at each moment we could still have free will, and, if you want, "peccare" in different ways: opening ourselves, more or less, to the transforming grace of God's love. But again, I am not a theologian, and I am not really interested in a theologic debate. So, please take my notes only for what they are: a personal consideration.gpuccio
July 15, 2011
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VJT: "Are there any good links you’d care to recommend on the transcendental “I”?" First of all, I really want to thank you for your constant contribution and work on these fundamental topics. Well, I am not a philosopher, and my personal concepts are just that, personal. They are more or less the result of my whole view of the world, and of my personal experiences. I call the "I" transcendental, because my idea is that consciousness requires an unifying principle which can refer to itself all the modifications perceived. The empirical point is that the perceiving subject has the universal property of being able to "recede" in a meta position from any of its perceptions, both outer and inner (IOWs, we can always "observe" as outer to our consciousness any conscious content that we were representing as part of it a moment before, and that is alwys true, in an infinite "mise en abime"). Unity of the point of perception is one the the fundamental properties which distinguish conscious representations from any non conscious, objectual system. That unity is both a cognitive and a feeling principle (we recognize ourselves as ourselves, always, and we always care about what will happen to ourselves, I would say, in a very special way). The unity of semplicity of the I is the main reason why I believe we should think of it as "without parts". That's why its nature, and essential qualities, cannot be described in term of an objective system made of parts, whatever AI people may think. Having loops can be a trendy social status, especially after Hofstadter, but I am afraid that it never transformed anything into a conscious, least of all intelligent, being.gpuccio
July 15, 2011
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gpuccio Having read your post, I realize that Eccles' views and mine are probably closer than I had thought, even if his terminology is somewhat different. I thought there was a great deal of wisdom contained in your final remark: "good choices increse our level of freedom, bad choices reduce it." Are there any good links you'd care to recommend on the transcendental "I"?vjtorley
July 15, 2011
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tragic mishap You ask:
Hold the phone. What is a "spirit"? Where do they exist? And do human beings have them?
First, a spirit is any entity whose operations are exclusively those of the intellect (reasoning, understanding, critical thinking, meta-cognition) and will (especially making choices - be they good or bad). Any entity (such as a human being) which is capable of lower-level physical operations as well has a spirit; whereas any entity whose operations are solely those of intellect and will is a spirit. Angels, for instance, can do nothing but know and choose. The love they have for God is a choice; it is devoid of passion. Demons' wills, by contrast, have been fixed in hate ever since their Fall from grace. A human being isn't a spirit, but a human being has a spirit. However, this spirit is also the form of a living body - which is why we can do so many other things apart from thinking an choosing. Second, a spirit doesn't have a location as such; nevertheless it can be said to be wherever its power extends. If you want to know what Aquinas thought about angels and their location, see St. Thomas and angels and see also here: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/vjtorley/thomas1.html#smoking4 . For my own very tentative answers to your questions of how angels or demons could move things and where they are, please see here: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/vjtorley/thomas2.html#appendix Third, spirits - good and bad - are quite real. You want evidence? Take a look at this: http://www.reasons.org/testing-demonic-possession and http://www.worldmysteriesandtrueghosttales.com/modern-day-demonic-possession-documented-true-story-of-exorcism/vjtorley
July 15, 2011
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gp RE 11 "There is no doubt that both outer and inner previous states (including character etc.) influence (but do not dtermine) free will." I take it that from a theological perspective you do not agree with Augustine when he wrote ( I think it was Augustine)"non posse non peccare" (I cannot not sin) ? Vividvividbleau
July 15, 2011
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dmullenix Thank you for your post. You write:
If I can ask, what exactly is a formal operation?
A formal operation is any mental operation in which the operands are abstract concepts. To see why a computer does not perform formal operations, think of the crudest analogue computer you can, and how it works - and then ask yourself whether a digital one is any different in principle. Further reading: Some brief arguments for dualism, Part IV by Professor Edward Feser (highly readable and fairly informal in its style) Immaterial Aspects of Thought by Professor James Ross. In The Journal of Philosophy, Vol. 89, No. 3, (Mar. 1992), pp. 136-150 (considerably meatier). Immaterial Aspects of Thought by Professor James Ross. An expanded and up-to-date version of Ross's argument.vjtorley
July 15, 2011
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Charles, Thank you for your very detailed post. I was intrigued by your "Flatland" suggestion that spirits exist in higher dimensions, and use physical brute force to manipulate objects. I can't think of any a priori argument against the existence of n-dimensional beings, so I guess their possibility has to be taken seriously. I would argue strongly, however, that operations such as thinking and willing are not carried out in some higher dimension. Regardless of whether you think they can move physical objects or not, thinking and willing are non-physical operations. For a good summary of the main arguments for the immateriality of the soul, with lots of links to good philosophical articles, see here . I first encountered the triune theory of man when I was a boy of ten or so. The Scriptural support is a bit meager (1 Thessalonians 5:23 and Hebrews 4:12, as I recall). Interestingly, the late neurophysiologist John C. Eccles referred to himself as a trialist rather than a dualist, although he doesn't use the terminology of spirit, soul and body, and his "World 3" is a human creation: see here . In any case, I hope you would agree that God is incorporeal and can move things by His will alone. Regarding your question on paralysis: I understand that paralysis is most often caused by damage in the nervous system, especially the spinal cord. I'd explain it by saying that probably the only areas of our bodies that move in response to acts of will on our part are regions of the motor homunculus. Certainly anything below the neck is not directly responsive to our will. Regarding phantom limb sensations, the Wikipedia article on the subject is definitely worth reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_limb I don't see that they pose any special problem for the modest "I-body" version of dualism that I have defended (see Why I think the interaction problem is real ).vjtorley
July 15, 2011
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vjtorley: At your link, I note:
In other words, physical objects have S-properties (properties which make reference to spiritual beings), while spiritual beings have built-in P-properties (properties which make reference to physical objects).
Ostensibly spiritual beings exist in higher dimensions than do we, and just as we 3-D beings can insert our finger into "flatland" and push bits of paper around or punch holes, higher-dimensional spiritual beings can 'step into' 3-D land and push 3-D objects around (such as rolling the stone away from the tomb). Higher dimensional beings can then withdraw from lower dimensional planes back into higher dimensions, just like we lift our finger off the surface of flatland. But such manipulation of objects (e.g. rolling away the stone) is simple brute force. It is not the intentional will of the being superceding the 'will' of the stone or otherwise neutralizing the force of gravity and levitating it (neither at molecular or sub-atomic levels nor as a single macroscopic mass). Unanswered as yet is how does a spiritual being take up (or take over) the neural controls of a human body? The bible tells us we have a triune nature. Perhaps the agency that mediates between the mind and body is the spirit. But how? When we are asleep or unconscious, the mind seems to remain active as evidenced by dreaming and those dreams are recorded in the brain (however fleeting), yet the grip on the body's neural controls seems relaxed or loosened. Perhaps it is the spirit that disengages from controlling voluntary muscles when the body sleeps, while the mind dreams of trying to run but imagines itself immobilized. Demonic possession of a living body (even a herd of pigs) would be futile if autonomic functions failed to keep the body alive. Of all the credible reports of demonic possession, none mention any cessation of breathing or possession of the deceased. Perhaps the spiritual-neural controls exist only for voluntary muscles and not for any autonomic functions. Libertarian free will may originate in the mind and its decisions are then effected over voluntary muscles via the spirit. It would seem that controlling voluntary muscles is a far more plausible and simpler problem than controlling molecules or subatomic particles. But where or what is the interface between a spirit and voluntary neurons? I've not answered the "controlled how" question, but merely narrowed its scope, hopefully, not unproductively. In your response, you did not mention how your model would account for paralysis?Charles
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I conclude that if you’re going to believe that Satan and his minions can wreak havoc in the world, you have to believe that material objects have properties which refer to spiritual beings, whereby if a being of type X wills that the object should do Y, then it does Y. You would have to believe, in short, that objects were explicitly designed to be manipulable by the will of certain kinds of spirits.
Hold the phone. What is a "spirit"? Where do they exist? And do human beings have them?tragic mishap
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"Reasoning and choosing are indeed immaterial processes: they are actions that involve abstract, formal concepts. (By the way, computers don’t perform formal operations; they are simply man-made material devices that are designed to mimic these operations. A computer is no more capable of addition than a cash register, an abacus or a Rube Goldberg machine.)" If I can ask, what exactly is a formal operation?dmullenix
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VJT: Personally, I don't see much difference between Eccles'vue and yours: the random configuration selected are probably connectd to reaching or not reaching the threshold of excitation at synaptic level. I agree with you on almost all: a) Compatibilism is an essentially stupid idea (OK, you were more of a gentleman, but let me say things strtight once in a while: I apologize in advance to my friend Mark Frank :) ) . b) Libertarian free will is the only reasonable solution. c) Quantum indeterminism is, at present, the best "window" we have (given our scientific understanding of these things, which is certain ly rough) to "join" strict determinism and free will of agents. d) The way the agent (my "transcendental I") influences outer events is anyway still a big mystery. e) There is no doubt that both outer and inner previous states (including character etc.) influence (but do not dtermine) free will. My idea is that precious states (the total sun up of them, including all our personal past and therefore our previous exercise of our free will) determine the "range" of choice we have in each single situation: what I call the "level of freedom" of each individual at each time. IOWs, all individuals have free will, but each one has different levels of freedom (can act from different ranges of options). f) The final point, and IMO the most important one, is the following: free choices not only are not determined, not only are not random. They are not "neutral". IOWs, different free choices in each individual situation have different "moral" values for the individual, and affect differently his personal future. IOWs, different choices avaliable at each moment to an individual are intuitively "felt" by the individual's consciousness as connected to a moral "field": some of them are better, some of them are worse. Reason has a role in that, but I believe that it is not the only factor, and that the final property of "moral conscience" is essentially intuitive, and directly perceived by the transcendental I. That "moral" property of free choices is the natural basis of responsibility, and is the reason why our present use (good or bad) of free will influences our future "level of freedom": good choices increse our level of freedom, bad choices reduce it.gpuccio
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... and, the thing is, it's not indeterminism which causes "free will," but rather that the freely observed reality of "free will" shows determinism to be a woefully incomplete view of the world.Ilion
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VJT: "When I wrote that indeterminism does not necessarily imply free will, I meant that the mere fact that my choices are not determined does not make them free. Indeterminism is a necessary but not sufficient condition for free will." But, isn't that exactly to say that "indeterminism" implies "free will."Ilion
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NZer and Charles, Thank you for your questions regarding how immaterial spirits (such as demons) might act upon bodies. Actually I addressed this question some time ago in my five-part reply to Professor Tkacz. If you have a look here: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/vjtorley/thomas2.html#section7 you'll see that I address the problem of animal suffering and offer my own tentative solution. In the Appendix (scroll down) I examine how demonic activity could play havoc with the natural order. I conclude that if you're going to believe that Satan and his minions can wreak havoc in the world, you have to believe that material objects have properties which refer to spiritual beings, whereby if a being of type X wills that the object should do Y, then it does Y. You would have to believe, in short, that objects were explicitly designed to be manipulable by the will of certain kinds of spirits. Only then would angelic or demonic agency be possible, in the material world.vjtorley
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Hi Ilion, Thanks for your comments. When I wrote that indeterminism does not necessarily imply free will, I meant that the mere fact that my choices are not determined does not make them free. Indeterminism is a necessary but not sufficient condition for free will. In a world without (i) top-down causation, and (ii) immaterial mental acts, there would be no libertarian free will, indeterminism notwithstanding.vjtorley
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Ilion,
And, the amusing thing about such models is that *all* of them must, in the end, by the their very natures, “explain” it by explaining it away. All “explaining” free will by reducing it something else is just the denial that it is real.
That's exactly right, Science was originally intended to save the phenomenon, now science is only considered scientific if it explains the phenomenon away.Clive Hayden
July 14, 2011
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Well, you know, we *all* know -- even those who publically deny it -- that "libertarian free will" is the truth about our natures. Whether or not anyone can come up with a model to "explain" (*) it, does not affect the truth of the matter. (*) And, the amusing thing about such models is that *all* of them must, in the end, by the their very natures, "explain" it by explaining it away. All "explaining" free will by reducing it something else is just the denial that it is real.Ilion
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"... By contrast, indeterminism is compatible with the existence of libertarian freedom, but in no way implies it. ... " Certainly it does! "Indeterminism" implies: 1) events may happen randomly, without a causal history; 2) events may happen due to a novel causal-chain initiated by an agent. But, implication 1) (i.e. "hard indeterminism") is absurd, just as "compatibilism" is absurd.Ilion
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the arm goes through a large number of micro-level muscular movements (tiny twitches) which are randomly generated at the quantum level. The agent tries these out over a very short interval of time (a fraction of a second) before selecting the one which feels right How does physical paralysis fit your model, wherein someone mentally chooses to raise a limb which is in fact paralyzed and ostsensibly has neither twitches nor feedback? How about when the mind/brain believes it feels an amputated limb? How might demonic possession overcome free will in your model? I'm not arguing, just exploring.Charles
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Ok, for argument's sake, what would be the implications if an immaterial soul/spirit could in some way interact with a physical body? From your earlier post, I understand that the inability of interactions between these two proposed entities makes everything more complicated. BTW, have you read JP Moreland on this topic?NZer
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Of course the only thing preventing this from applying equally well to dualism is the word "spooky." I don't exactly see a mechanism either. Collapsing the wave function would require some mechanism correct?tragic mishap
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