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Is COVID-19 the end of “Trust Science!!”?

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What happens when “science” is speaking with dozens of different voices, each a momentary flash of Truth unto itself?

Recently, some interesting facts came to light from Canada about who is really affected by COVID-19:

The National Institute on Aging says that as of May 6, 3,436 residents and six staff members of long term care settings had died of COVID-19, representing 82 per cent of the 4,167 deaths reported as of Wednesday…

Last fall, the National Institute on Aging warned long term care homes were plagued by conditions that increased the risk of spreading infections: people living in close quarters in residences faced with chronic shortages of staff, with little space or ability to enforce proper physical distancing measures, where poorly paid employees often work on a part-time basis at multiple facilities, increasing the risk.

The pandemic has borne out those fears.

Tonda MacCharles, “82% of Canada’s COVID-19 deaths have been in long-term care, new data reveals” at Toronto Star

I (O’Leary for News) recall being told explicitly months ago that COVID-19 mainly killed old and/or immune-compromised people. It must be so, at least in Canada, where there have been very few deaths among healthy young people.

So why close schools, throw young people out of work, shut down and maybe destroy their businesses, make it nearly impossible for young families to move, let heart patients die because their surgeries are postponed…

Do we need Albert Einstein to figure this out?: We know where the people in long-term care are. They’re in licensed government-inspected or -run facilities. If we had simply moved to address the problems outlined above and protect them, instead of sucker-punching young people’s lives, we might have saved many seniors, prevented much loss and damage, and weathered the storm much better.

But then we’d need to ignore the pack howls from “science.”

Once we climb back out of the hole we have so furiously dug for ourselves, let’s start thinking more about ignoring the pack howls from “science.”

After all, how many more of them can we afford?

See also: But IS there such a thing as pandemic science? Or is it just panic science? The problems that Lenzer and Brownlee identify in their screed as wrong science are normal components of a panic in a crisis. What it all really shows is that we aren’t as much smarter than our forebears as we think.

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Erick Erickson Twitter feed: When did the conservative movement get filled with a bunch of whiny little b*tches? Muh freedom! They are making me wear a mask. OMG I can’t go get drunk at my favorite restaurant. Give me liberty or give me coronavirus. Good grief. You people are grifty whiners. You just managed to stack up the whole of the federal judiciary with a bunch of liberty loving judges. If you really think you’re rights are being violated, file a f***ing lawsuit and the odds are really damn good you’ll get in front of one of those liberty loving Trump judges. But nope. You’d rather get on social media and declare the country has come to an end, our freedoms are gone, and you’re forced to stay inside. Get a grip. There’s a global pandemic and the same president whose leg you like to hump has wanted you to shelter in place. File a lawsuit or shut the hell up please. Your liberty is not at stake. No one is trading freedom for security per Franklin. We’re in a global pandemic where 75,000 people have died in TEN WEEKS and you’re a selfish a**hole who would rather deny the truth and lie about data. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258905504438521857.htmlrhampton7
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The Canadian experience where COVID-19 has killed more people in old age homes than any other country has raised another worrying statistic. Of the infections and deaths in the old age homes, a significant majority are from privately run homes.Ed George
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The devastating effects on an economy of lockdown and social distancing measures is an extremely grave problem for the whole world and we need to find innovative solutions and quickly. But that does not undermine the importance of mitigation measures. The fact that the virus is most dangerous to the elderly and/or immuno-compromised is not the point. The problem is that we only know someone is infected if they are tested or if they begin to display symptoms. Before that, we have no means of detecting the virus. Those infected can walk around for days before the onset of symptoms, asymptomatic carriers could move around for weeks, in all cases shedding virus into the environment without them or anyone else knowing it. That is why we need the mitigation measures.Seversky
May 11, 2020
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rhampton at 1 and 2: In Canada, the people who really needed to be socially distanced were not. The ones at much less risk, were socially distanced to the point of losing their livelihoods and short circuiting their eductions. If this is science, let's have less of it. (Read the OP).Denyse OLeary
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Q: When you look at the footprint of COVID-19 in the United States right now, it's staggeringly large. Do we all have to kind of go back and get an accounting somehow of why this was able to spread in the United States to the incredible degree it has? What did we get wrong from your perspective? Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) : Well, number one is there's going to be plenty of time to look around and point around, and I would expect that the entire presidential campaign of 2020, Steve, is going to involve some finger pointing. I don't think that solves the problem today. We need a vaccine. We need treatment. We need more testing. We have about 2 million tests a week right now. Dr. Fauci says we need 3 million. There's a hearing on the Hill this week, Lamar Alexander's HELP committee, and they'll have the panel of experts. Testing will be a big part of that discussion. When can more and more people get tested? What do we need to have in place so schools can open again in the fall? So, yeah, there's going to be a number of things. You know, The Washington Post did a story about the Center for Disease Control and the original round of tests which the Center for Disease Control violated their own procedures, which resulted I believe, in about a five week delay of advanced testing ... but we're going to be capable of doing 2 million tests a week, which moves it from just the symptomatic people that you and I were talking about earlier, to much more broad testing in the society and more frequent. Ultimately, we need to get to the point where you can test for the immunoglobulin to see not just if you have the coronavirus right now that you are a carrier, but also are you in some way immune. They talk about an immunity passport for some people that have the immunoglobulins built up. And how long is that going to last for? If you've had the measles, you know, you're protected for the rest of your life. We know you have the flu, you might get it again next year. So, there are different things that we need to learn. And we're still learning a lot about a disease that has caught the world by surprise and has impacted everyone in one way or the other. https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/497142-coronavirus-report-the-hills-steve-clemons-interviews-sen-johnrhampton7
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Why do we social distance? Because research has shown that it works to slow the spread of the virus, which prevents hospitals from being overloaded, which means more people get effective treatment and survive. Don't believe me? Here's the paper that convinced me that social distancing, quarantines, and lockdowns work. "Flattening the curve" is not a cliche or a buzzword. It saved people's lives in 1918, and it's saving people's lives now. Is COVID-19 really no worse than a bad outbreak of the flu? It's far worse, or at least it has the potential to be. The flu has been around for years, and there's a lot of resistance already in the population. Plus, the flu does not spread nearly as fast as COVID-19, and there are preventatives (flu shot) and effective treatments available for the flu. COVID-19 is new, we are unprepared, and lots of people are dying from it. So far, more than a quarter million people have died from COVID-19. This isn't just a minor outbreak. Does that mean that this will be a bad as projected and therefore the shutdown is completely justified? Like I've said before, I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions, but here's what I know for sure: Social distancing works best when it's implemented before a major outbreak takes place, and it only works when you get a large majority of the population participating. When it works, it flattens the curve, making the shutdown look like an overreaction. http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2020/05/youre-being-lied-to-truth-about-pandemic.html?m=1rhampton7
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