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The concept of self-organization in biology has long been applied in behavioural studies of animals such as fish, ants and fireflies. Now, cell and developmental biologists are using similar concepts to explore how patterns are generated in cells and tissues.

It is always tempting to seek common mechanistic foundations for different biological phenomena. This approach should be used carefully because biological mechanisms are remarkably diverse, but increasing evidence suggests that the principle of self-organization is broadly applicable. Unlike human-made machines, biological machines must be sufficiently dynamic and flexible to respond to their external and internal environments, and they must rely on themselves to generate order. The challenge for researchers is to look beyond our usual engineering principles and to appreciate the less familiar logic of biological organization.


Dave, ha! Funny, but true. Not to mention navigation from point to point or roundtrips without any external help except nature. Michaels7
idnets I've always said that human engineers will catch up with nature's designer when they can build an airplane that is self-repairing, self-replicating, and is constructed from and fueled with nothing but sunflower seeds. DaveScot
When Glick says "Unlike human-made machines, biological machines" he is saying that biological machines are more complex because "they must be sufficiently dynamic and flexible to respond to their external and internal environments" any engineer who is able to design such a system will become very famous and rich. Glick's claim that molecular machines "must rely on themselves to generate order" is where we differ from him. What he is primarily considering is not the origin of the machines themselves, but rather that they apparently "self organize" with other molecular machines in the performance of their collective cooperative function. This is the mystery they are contemplating. I would add to his "challenge for researchers to look beyond our usual engineering principles and to appreciate the less familiar logic of biological organization." that the "challenge for researchers is to look beyond our usual Darwinian principles and to appreciate the less familiar logic of intelligent biological organization and complexity" idnet.com.au
I'd like a Spicy Chicken sandwich, no tomatoe, but add onion. Douglas
Ummm, wow. Let me check the Origins of Life Prize Judges list for the request of papers on FSC. http://lifeorigin.org/rul_judg.htm Nope, Glick is not on the list. Apparently he missed the Trevors and Abel's paper on "Three Subsets of Sequence Complexity and their relevance to biopolymeric information". Prof. Jeffery Schwartz has some interesting comments out now...
However, it is not only the current molecular theory that intrigues Schwartz, but the failure of the scientific community to question an idea that is more than 40 years old: "The history of organ life is undemonstrable; we cannot prove a whole lot in evolutionary biology, and our findings will always be hypothesis. There is one true evolutionary history of life, and whether we will actually ever know it is not likely. Most importantly, we have to think about questioning underlying assumptions, whether we are dealing with molecules or anything else," says Schwartz.
While he holds onto evolutionary theory, like Dr. MacNeil he at least understands the severity of problems with current thinking in the following statement.
"These proteins are located in each cell, and their main function is to eliminate the potential for cellular error and change via maintaining normal cellular form through protein folding." "This regular cellular maintenance is what Schwartz points to regarding his refutation of constant cellular change. "The biology of the cell seems to run contrary to the model people have in their heads," says Schwartz, and he contends that if our molecules were constantly changing, it would threaten proper survival, and strange animals would be rapidly emerging all over the world."
That's much to logical. He's beginning to think like an engineer or designer. Certainly Glick will need to talk to him personally regarding the "less familiar logic of biological organizatoin" in "order" that current thinking is brought back into alignment with those who know. Bio-logical - in the NDE paradigm is a single word inter-syllable contradiction. A multi-syllable oxymoron if there ever was one based upon unguided, unpurposed events of "self-organization". http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/uop-ppc020807.php Schwartz's paper with Prof of Biochemistry Bruno Maresca appears in Bio-"logical" Theory Feb 9th. Michaels7

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