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One of the more peculiar objections to the design inference is the strident, often repeated claim that the genetic code is not a code, and that DNA and mRNA are not storing algorithmic, coded information used in protein synthesis. These are tied to the string (yes, s-t-r-i-n-g) data structure, a key foundational array for information storage, transfer and application. So, it seems useful to address the string as a key first principles issue, with the onward point being that strings of course can and do store coded information.

Let us begin with, what a string — yes, s-t-r-i-n-g — is (though that should already be obvious from even the headline):

Wikipedia illustrates a string data structure

Geeks for Geeks: A string is a sequence of characters, often used to represent text. In programming, strings are a common data type and are used for a variety of tasks, such as representing names, addresses, and other types of information.

Wikipedia confesses: In computer programming, a string is traditionally a sequence of characters, either as a literal constant or as some kind of variable. The latter may allow its elements to be mutated and the length changed, or it may be fixed (after creation). A string is generally considered as a data type and is often implemented as an array data structure of bytes (or words) that stores a sequence of elements, typically characters, using some character encoding. String may also denote more general arrays or other sequence (or list) data types and structures . . . . A primary purpose of strings is to store human-readable text, like words and sentences. Strings are used to communicate information from a computer program to the user of the program. A program may also accept string input from its user. Further, strings may store data expressed as characters yet not intended for human reading . . . . Example strings and their purposes . . . Alphabetical data, like “AGATGCCGT” representing nucleic acid sequences of DNA . . .

So, it should not be surprising to see that DNA and RNA can store strings of information-bearing elements:

Where, of course, the genetic code is expressed in such strings. The (standard) code, mRNA form is:

The Genetic code uses three-letter codons to specify the sequence of AA’s in proteins, specifying start/stop, and using six bits per AA

For very simple example, HT Khan Academy:

The basic algorithmic process for protein synthesis [HT Khan, fair use edu]

Of course, the above is the mRNA form, which would be transcribed and edited to cut out introns, and it leaves out onward complexities. For example, we can see how Insulin has two strands of AA’s interconnected through di-sulphide bonds, making up a 51 AA protein:

The 51 aa, double chain protein, human insulin (fair use edu)

The end-product insulin protein is put together from the preproinsulin produced stepwise in the ribosome, by way of a clever alignment that uses a third, “scaffolding,” chain C sequence:

Assembling Insulin (fair use)

Using the code one could in principle back-translate to mRNA, however, in the DNA there are intervening Introns between the Exons expressed in the ribosome, so the human genome sequence is:

The underlying DNA sequence in the human genome (fair use)

So, as usual, we see how sophisticated life is at molecular level. That said, we also see that as a key stage of protein synthesis, as ribosomes, mRNA and tRNA interact (with a complex cast of supporting molecules) AA chains are assembled with start, elongate, stop, executing a code driven algorithm. Where, AmHD defines:

[Algorithm:] A finite set of unambiguous instructions that, given some set of initial conditions, can be performed in a prescribed sequence to achieve a certain goal and that has a recognizable set of end conditions.

Illustrating:

Step by step protein synthesis in action, in the ribosome, based on the sequence of codes in the mRNA control tape (Courtesy, Wikipedia and LadyofHats)

That should be enough to show the unbiased mind that coded algorithms are in the cell, and that DNA and mRNA act as string data structures. However, there are those who have proved resistant to such commonplace summaries or to citations from the sort of panels of experts who write major textbooks in biochemistry. For record, notwithstanding, here are Lehninger and heirs:

A page capture from Lehninger and heirs, Principles of Biochemistry, (fair use)

Lehninger and heirs go on to say, pp. 194 – 5:

Augmented citation from Lehninger and heirs, on mRNA in protein synthesis (fair use)

We may also now observe a Nobel Prize Laureate, Sydney Brenner, in his article, Life’s code script . . . yes, it’s that obvious, published in 2012 in the leading Science Journal, Nature:

[Brenner:] ” . . . The most interesting connection with biology, in my view, is in Turing’s most important paper: ‘On computable numbers with an application to the Entscheidungsproblem’5, published in 1936, when Turing was just 24.

Computable numbers are defined as those whose decimals are calculable by finite means. [–> that is, effectively, by algorithms] Turing introduced what became known as the Turing machine to formalize the computation. The abstract machine is provided with a tape [–> with marks on it], which it scans one square at a time, and it can write, erase or omit symbols. The scanner may alter its mechanical state, and it can ‘remember’ previously read symbols. Essentially, the system is a set of instructions written on the tape, which describes the machine. Turing also defined a universal Turing machine, which can carry out any computation for which an instruction set can be written — this is the origin of the digital computer. [–> there is also, a more powerful oracle machine, capable of one step decisions]

Turing’s ideas were carried further in the 1940s by mathematician and engineer John von Neumann, who conceived of a ‘constructor’ machine capable of assembling another according to a description. A universal constructor with its own description would build a machine like itself. To complete the task, the universal constructor needs to copy its description and insert the copy into the offspring machine. Von Neumann noted that if the copying machine made errors, these ‘mutations’ would provide inheritable changes in the progeny.

Arguably the best examples of Turing’s and von Neumann’s machines are to be found in biology. Nowhere else are there such complicated systems, in which every organism contains an internal description of itself. The concept of the gene as a symbolic representation of the organism — a code script — is a fundamental feature of the living world and must form the kernel of biological theory. [–> note, again, author, context and publisher]

Turing died in 1954, one year after the discovery of the double-helical structure of DNA by James Watson and Francis Crick, but before biology’s subsequent revolution. Neither he nor von Neumann had any direct effect on molecular biology, but their work allows us to discipline our thoughts about machines, both natural and artificial.

Turing invented the stored-program computer, and von Neumann showed that the description is separate from the universal constructor. [–> that ‘description’ of course is encoded] This is not trivial. Physicist Erwin Schrödinger confused the program and the constructor in his 1944 book What is Life?, in which he saw chromosomes as “architect’s plan and builder’s craft in one”. This is wrong. The code script contains only a description of the executive function, not the function itself.

That’s why Yockey adapted Shannon’s architectural diagram for communication systems:

Yockey’s analysis of protein synthesis as a code-based communication process

So, we may freely understand that DNA and associated molecules such as mRNA express string data structures, store coded biological information, that such information as used in protein synthesis expresses algorithms, and that therefore we are dealing with computation and associated computer language in the course of protein synthesis.

We may quote a Wiki confession:

[Wiki confesses:] Since 2001, 40 non-natural amino acids have been added into proteins by creating a unique codon (recoding) and a corresponding transfer-RNA:aminoacyl – tRNA-synthetase pair to encode it with diverse physicochemical and biological properties in order to be used as a tool to exploring protein structure and function or to create novel or enhanced proteins.[22][23]

H. Murakami and M. Sisido extended some codons to have four and five bases. Steven A. Benner [–>another guy] constructed a functional 65th (in vivo) codon.[24]

In 2015 N. Budisa, D. Söll and co-workers reported the full substitution of all 20,899 tryptophan residues (UGG codons) with unnatural thienopyrrole-alanine in the genetic code of the bacterium Escherichia coli.[25]

In 2016 the first stable semisynthetic organism was created. It was a (single cell) bacterium with two synthetic bases (called X and Y). The bases survived cell division.[26][27]

In 2017, researchers in South Korea reported that they had engineered a mouse with an extended genetic code that can produce proteins with unnatural amino acids.[28]

In May 2019, researchers reported the creation of a new “Syn61” strain of the bacterium Escherichia coli. This strain has a fully synthetic genome that is refactored (all overlaps expanded), recoded (removing the use of three out of 64 codons completely), and further modified to remove the now unnecessary tRNAs and release factors. It is fully viable and grows 1.6× slower than its wild-type counterpart “MDS42”

Indeed, the function of DNA as an information storage entity is so well established, that as Wiki also confesses, it has been adapted to general archival storage:

DNA digital data storage is the process of encoding and decoding binary data to and from synthesized strands of DNA.[1][2]

While DNA as a storage medium has enormous potential because of its high storage density, its practical use is currently severely limited because of its high cost and very slow read and write times.[3]

In June 2019, scientists reported that all 16 GB of text from Wikipedia’s English-language version had been encoded into synthetic DNA.[4] In 2021, scientists reported that a custom DNA data writer had been developed that was capable of writing data into DNA at 18 Mbps.[5]
Encoding methods

Countless methods for encoding data in DNA are possible. The optimal methods are those that make economical use of DNA and protect against errors.[6] If the message DNA is intended to be stored for a long period of time, for example, 1,000 years [–> a lot longer than most of our digital storage media will likely last], it is also helpful if the sequence is obviously artificial and the reading frame is easy to identify.[6]

CNet gives details:

the next storage technology might use an approach as old as life on earth: DNA. Startup Catalog announced Friday it’s crammed all of the text of Wikipedia’s English-language version onto the same genetic molecules our own bodies use.

It accomplished the feat with its first DNA writer, a machine that would fit easily in your house if you first got rid of your refrigerator, oven and some counter space. And although it’s not likely to push aside your phone’s flash memory chips anytime soon, the company believes it’s useful already to some customers who need to archive data.

DNA strands are tiny and tricky to manage, but the biological molecules can store other data than the genes that govern how a cell becomes a pea plant or chimpanzee. Catalog uses prefabricated synthetic DNA strands that are shorter than human DNA, but uses a lot more of them so it can store much more data.

Relying on DNA instead of the latest high-tech miniaturization might sound like a step backward. But DNA is compact, chemically stable — and given that it’s the foundation of the Earth’s biology, it’s arguably not as likely to become as obsolete as the spinning magnetized platters of hard drives or CDs that are disappearing today . . .

In short, they used a different encoding and have stored Wikipedia in DNA.

At this point, we need to ask, why is it that we have seen certain objectors from the penumbra of attack sites making strident, unyielding objections to understanding DNA and mRNA as string data structure information storage entities, part of a wider information processing, protein synthesis process in the cell?

The manifest answer is simple and sad: because such things point to design, which is being ideologically locked out at all costs.

So, it is time to recognise a key first fact about DNA and mRNA and let the chips lie where they fly. END

Comments
Kairosfocus: ID was long since defined as the scientific research programme that investigates whether entities can and do have in them observable, reliable signs of design. Can you link to an ongoing ID research programme or an ID research agenda? in real science, claims need to be warranted through empirical observation. What empirical observations can you offer that show that any biological structure was designed? Not similar things, not analogies but actual observations of some biological structure being designed.JVL
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Querius at 330, You are completely missing the big picture. Before Computer Aided Design there was pencil and paper - still is the case. The idea for any design was committed to paper, parts were described, engineering drawings/blueprints were made and these were sent on to machine shops for fabrication. The problem with so-called unguided evolution is that a BLIND watchmaker can make a watch with nothing to work with. Evolution has NO brain, and NO goals. If I was teaching a Design/Engineering class today, I would tell all students to put away their laptops, hand out pencils and paper, and give them a design assignment. That is still being done at a premiere design company today. "automated design iteration"? Seriously? No machine can invent. And even with programs that exist - made by people - to assist, they contain no brain and no creativity.relatd
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Alan Fox @324,
My comment 267 does not quote Querius, it is my interpretation.
So isn't it odd that you would add quotation marks around my misrepresented quote and then ask Relatd whether he agreed? Oops, busted! -QQuerius
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Critical Rationalist @298,
Kairosfocus: "The design description of the analogue watch reduces it to bits, compare AutoCAD."
Critical Rationalist: This is incredibly vague. You don’t need to use AutoCad to describe a watch. You can draw it on a piece of paper. The means by which you choose convert it to digital would result in wildly varying number of bits. Parametric? Polygons? 2D vectors? Neural radiance fields? You could simply describe it to someone. In all cases, the end result will be well adapted to the purpose of telling time.
No, it isn't vague, and here's the problem. An AutoCAD drawing or model of a watch is NOT the watch. It cannot tell time and its function is to communicate design intent and manufacturing instructions to a machinist or to be converted into G-code for CNC manufacture . . . or for a rendering in an advertisement . . . or to illustrate a design proposal . . . or to check for mechanical interferences or other analysis. AutoCAD (or any CAD system) is functional code created by programmers for execution on a computer for use as a symbolic visual representation along with any attached data to the component parts. As such, it's a "visual language" created with double-precision floating-point accuracy for additional analysis and computation. Some CAD models also support "parametric design constraints" that establish geometric and numeric relationships between geometric and data elements. Such models can be versioned by changing the numbers in an associated spreadsheet. So, yes! Such a 2D CAD drawing or 3D model is coded, structured information and a design language that's comparable to (a) the interaction between organisms and their ecosystems (i.e. epigenetics), and (b) design data extracted for the biological equivalent to automated design iteration (as in "generative design" technology) and with automated manufacturing (as in DNA). -QQuerius
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Evolution explains zero - less than zero. God creates designs. He builds living things. He creates without using pre-existing matter. Origin of Life claims that inorganic chemicals can spontaneously become organic - with zero demonstration of such today. Evolution cannot explain the origin of any body plan. The how aspect boils down to assertions without step by step explanations of how a gain of information occurs or the apparent and obvious design present in all living things.relatd
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I have a sock launcher locked on your position. Don’t make me use it…
Well, you have nothing in the way of evidence or reasoned argument, so fire away.Alan Fox
March 23, 2023
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Anyway, moving on... Design, real or imagined, is not the issue. The question is what is the source of design in biological entities. Evolution explains what designs, when design happens and how it happens. ID proponents spend most of their time knocking over straw-men un an effort to deny the facts of evolution and none in explaining how "Intelligent Design" is supposed to work.Alan Fox
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AF at 325, I have a sock launcher locked on your position. Don't make me use it...relatd
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The deliberate misquote is simply being brushed off as inconsequential, but it was obviously being used to bait Relatd against me. This is a pathetic and deplorable tactic.
Motes and beams.Alan Fox
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Your point with this seems to be that because you quote Querius correctly in #264, it should be no problem that you misquote him in #267
My comment 267 does not quote Querius, it is my interpretation. My mistake was to take my lead from the style most ID proponents adopt here, who set rather a low bar for civility and integrity.Alan Fox
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Origenes @290,
Your point with this seems to be that because you quote Querius correctly in #264, it should be no problem that you misquote him in #267. Is that your idea?
The deliberate misquote is simply being brushed off as inconsequential, but it was obviously being used to bait Relatd against me. This is a pathetic and deplorable tactic. -QQuerius
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Kairosfocus @300,
PM1, I suggest you ponder Mr Dawkins’ observation that biology studies complex entities that appear to have been designed, but in his view were created by a BLIND watchmaker, an obvious allusion to Paley . . .
Yes, exactly. See above. -QQuerius
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Kairosfocus @287, PyrrhoManiac1 @ 291 Okay, I think the following statements deserve to be differentiated: 1. Querius: “If it looks designed, let’s study it as if it were designed.” This represents the ID approach to poorly understood biological structures, features and cycles. Pragmatically, this approach has been far more successful than the continuously revised, racist science fantasy called Darwinism. In contrast, imagine someone trying to reverse engineer a watch, where each new gear supposedly evolved as a “hopeful monster” within the movement. 2. Kairosfocus: “if it shows known, reliable observable signs of design, then it is reasonable to acknowledge that design is a very good candidate explanation.” This is a philosophical inference involving two poorly understood concepts: a. what is information and how can it be measured, and b. what is design and how can it be measured or detected. The onus is on the skeptic because they haven’t ever shown a repeatable instance of spontaneous increase in design complexity. This was tacitly admitted by Dawkins and also noted by PyrroManiac1. For example, few people advocate that watches or jet aircraft formed spontaneously from natural causes, yet biological systems are FAR more complex than these, but supposedly formed spontaneously. -QQuerius
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Ba77, Here's the problem. People are fine with alien beings - who we have never seen - and science fiction stories about them. When it comes to a Supreme Designer, there's a problem. He sounds too much like God. For them, the evidence for design can be crystal clear but they must look away. They might see themselves as they really are.relatd
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Live link:
Adaptation - by Richard C. Lewontin - 1978 Excerpt: Organisms fit remarkably well into the external world in which they live. They have morphologies, physiologies and behaviors that appear to have been carefully and artfully designed to enable each or­ganism to appropriate the world around it for its own life. It was the marvelous fit of organisms to the environment, much more than the great diversity of forms, that was the chief evidence of a Supreme Designer.,,, https://dynamics.org/~altenber/LIBRARY/REPRINTS/Lewontin_Adaptation.1978.pdf
bornagain77
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Asauber @274
Look! A paragraph full of assertions! Wow! How do they do it?
Yes, this lack of supporting information seems so common in many (not all) skeptical posts that it made me conclude that some skeptics seem to believe that their unsupported assertions constitute irrefutable truth. Or maybe that some are simply trollbots that generate assertions. -QQuerius
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"Do you think Richard Dawkins yells at flowers as he walks by? “You are not designed! You are not designed!” Relatd, I hope he allows himself to enjoy them. That's one of the reasons they are there. Andrewasauber
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Andrew, Do you think Richard Dawkins yells at flowers as he walks by? "You are not designed! You are not designed!"relatd
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"More nonsense peddling. It was Richard Dawkins who said that living things only look designed. They are not actually designed. This is in conflict with observed reality." Relatd, And PM1 takes it a step farther. I think he claims he doesn't see the appearance of design at all, because he has defined it out of existence. But he can correct me if I'm wrong about what he thinks. ;) Andrewasauber
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CR at 298, More nonsense peddling. It was Richard Dawkins who said that living things only look designed. They are not actually designed. This is in conflict with observed reality.relatd
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PM1:
one would need a general theory of design that explains what human-built artifacts have in common with beaver dams and spider webs
No, only recognition that designers exist, act and produce observable artifacts in sufficient numbers that we may see patterns. The base of artifacts we have seen creation of is in the trillions. Those observed patterns are well known and give the answer you obviously wish to not admit. Namely, yes. Precisely the patterns long since recognised at common sense level since Cicero's remarks on random text, which have been given greater precision over several decades. These patterns are evident in life, such as in algorithmic, string data structure, complex symbolic information in the cell. They are also present in the world of life in fine tuning connected to enabling cell based life. Consequently, for cause, we may freely take the design inference seriously. KFkairosfocus
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"I’m still flummoxed at your insistence that you know my own mind better than I do." PM1, I don't know your mind better than you, but I do know that people generally see design in nature, and do not go to extravagant lengths to deny it. You know a lot of philosophy, but do you know people? Not very well, I have to conclude. Andrewasauber
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@306
PM1, Deny, deny, deny. Andrew
I'm still flummoxed at your insistence that you know my own mind better than I do. And here I thought the only person who I thought knew me better than I know myself is my wife. Darling, is that you? If so, please get some bagels on your way home from work. Love you!PyrrhoManiac1
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Lewontin’s abstract for article.
ADAPTATION is exemplified by "industrial melanism" in the peppered moth (Biston betu­ laria). Air pollution kill the lichens that would normally colonize the bark of tree trunks. On the dark, lichenless bark of an oak tree near Liverpool in England the melanic (black) form is better adapted: it is better camouflaged against predation by birds than the light, peppered wild type (top photograph on opposite page), which it largely replaced through natural selec­tion in industrial areas of England in the late 19th century. Now air quality is improving. On a nearby beech tree colonized by algae and the lichen Lecanora conizaeoides, which is itself par­ticularly well adapted to low levels of pollution, the two forms of the moth are equally conspic­uous (middle). On the lichened bark of an oak tree in rural Wales the wild type is almost in­ visible (bottom), and in such areas it predominates. The photographs were made by J. A. Bish­op of the University of Liverpool and Laurence M. Cook of the University of Manc
A case study in genetics or perfectly in sync with ID. So should the ID motto be Let’s Go Moths jerry
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Exploring every angle to attack the truth. How very noble.Origenes
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@301
You will be mightily disappointed then to read the following:
Not disappointed, only somewhat surprised. I would need to read more Lewontin to know if that line is a concession to a semi-popular audience (the article "Adaptation" appeared in Scientific American) or if he changed his views between 1978 (when that article appeared) and 1985 (when he and Levins published The Dialectical Biologist).PyrrhoManiac1
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Actual Lewontin quote from article. He emphasizes the ecology. So does Darwin.
Life forms are more than simply mul­tiple and diverse, however. Organisms fit remarkably well into the external world in which they live. They have morphologies, physiologies and behaviors that appear to have been carefully and artfully designed to enable each or­ganism to appropriate the world around it for its own life. It was the marvelous fit of organisms to the environment, much more than the great diversity of forms, that was the chief evidence of a Supreme Designer. Darwin realized that if a naturalistic theory of evolution was to be successful. it would have to explain the apparent perfection of organisms and not simply their variation. At the very beginning of the Origin of Species he wrote: "In con­sidering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist ...might come to the conclusion that each spe­cies ...had descended, like varieties, from other species. Nevertheless, such a conclusion, even if well founded, would be unsatisfactory, until it could be shown how the innumerable species in­habiting this world have been modified, so as to acquire that perfection of struc­ture and coadaptation which most just­ly excites our admiration."
More from Lewontin
Moreover, Darwin knew that "organs of extreme perfection and complication" were a critical test case for his theory, and he took them up in a section of the chap­ter on "Difficulties of the Theory." He wrote: "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for ad­mitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest de­gree.
That’s all I read so far but CSI is the issue they cannot get around. Lewontin was 50 years old when he wrote the above. Hardly a kid. The entire issue of Scientific American was about Evolution. It makes no difference what Lewontin wrote afterwards if he cannot provide any justification for any changes in his views. He certainly justified his statements here. But again the diversions are on full display. Don’t deal with the obvious when you can generate nonsense and pretend it’s sophisticated.jerry
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"You can know what it is that I see, even though I don’t know what I see? Wow. Well, so much for first-person authority!" PM1, Deny, deny, deny. Andrewasauber
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- Harvard's Richard Lewontin summarized it, organisms " … appear to have been carefully and artfully designed." 4 He calls the "perfection of organisms" both a challenge to Darwinism and, on a more positive note, "the chief evidence of a Supreme Designer." 4. Lewontin, Richard, "Adaptation," Scientific American. V. 239. No. 3, 1978, pp. 212-230. https://www.icr.org/article/creation-selection-variation
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@294
PM1, Just simple denial on your part. Of course you see it. Andrew
You can know what it is that I see, even though I don't know what I see? Wow. Well, so much for first-person authority! @295
PM1, are there certain observable signs, that reliably indicate design? Why or why not? Empirically, not speculatively.
The short answer is, "I don't know." To answer that, one would need a general theory of design that explains what human-built artifacts have in common with beaver dams and spider webs. I have some guesses as to how one might go about constructing such a theory, but I haven't done the work and I don't know who has.PyrrhoManiac1
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