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Ladies and gentlemen, meet Mathgrrl. Mathgrrl is a New Yorker named _______ ___. He has a chemical engineering degree from M.I.T.

Here is an excerpt from his Web page:

“As a father, I want my children to get the best education possible and to grow up in a world of opportunity. These goals are being threatened by right-wing fundamentalist creationists, including supporters of Intelligent Design, and by the typically left-wing ‘woo masters’ with their crystals, chakras, and gross abuse of the concepts of quantum mechanics. Both are anti-science and both pose a significant threat to the quality of education in the U.S. Some of the material I provide here is intended to help in some small way to counter these destructive influences on American culture.”

A page on his Web site reveals his interest in genetic algorithms, the Steiner problem and Dawkins’ Weasel program.

One major give-away that helped me identify Mathgrrl was his inadvertent use of his real name in another forum.

(Update: The next paragraph has been removed, as it mistakenly identified Mathgrrl with another anonymous contributor to Uncommon Descent, on the basis of a remark by the latter contributor which was intended as a joke. Evidently the joke went over my head. My apology to Mathgrrl can be found here.)

The final link that made the penny drop was a post by Alan Fox two years ago on another forum, listing his name.

However, Mathgrrl has his own life to lead, so I’ve decided that his name shall be removed from this post henceforth. Readers may refer to this post for my subsequent reflections and apology.

That’s all for now.

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Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17. Scottish author & novelist (1771 - 1832) Lies-Evanescence-Origin - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml7JSG2KC44 This lack of honesty issue is a peculiar trait Darwinists seem have even when confronted directly with the truth: Richard Dawkins Lies About William Lane Craig AND Logic! - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1cfqV2tuOIbornagain77
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But I really am Mung!Mung
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Well, MathGrrl, at least you are here. Are you who Vince Torley thinks, or not? I take it you are. Guess what, I'm who you might think. Here's my phone number, for heaven's sake: 416 485-2392 Phone me. We like to deal with people we know. I thought we did right by you. We gave you 30 days free authorship to reply to comments in a way that would stand out. But given the story that you had somehow been wronged, we figured we had better follow up. (If a bunch of stupid trolls, listening in, want to phone me, they could do well by themselves to first read up on Canada's laws on stalking before proceeding. Persons who don't have any legitimate business with me: = Don't. Do. It.)O'Leary
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Fascinating. At first I was supposed to be a professor at a university in Virginia, now I'm a man. I wonder who I'll be next week. If you really want to know, you could try something silly like asking me. My email address is idmathgrrl@gmail.com, as Mrs. O'Leary, JonathanM, and one or two others here know. May I assume that you'll be attempting to find the real names of PaV, Upright BiPed, Mung, and every other pseudonym used here? Surely you're not limiting yourself to stalking only people who disagree with you? That would be a very creepy double standard. Speaking of standards, I know that kairosfocus has some very strong views regarding people who attempt, successfully or not, to peek behind pseudonyms. I'm a bit surprised that he hasn't yet appeared in this thread to give you a good scolding. I'm sure he'll get around to it.MathGrrl
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The character of Mathgrrl usually seemed rather polite. I'm disappointed to see repeated references to "Intelligent Design Creationism." Given that the difference between the two could not be more clearly defined, it demonstrates an obstinate willingness to believe according to his preference rather than the evidence. Having demonstrated that, why should anyone take anything else he says seriously? His "real" persona is unable to hide the emotion driving his belief system. No wonder he had to invent a new one.ScottAndrews
June 22, 2011
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My apologies but natural selection has to be good for something. Also I would think the chakra-types would be more into ID as chakras don't exactly jibe with materialism. Just sayin'Joseph
June 22, 2011
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Joseph, REALLY! He doubtless cares about his kids. It's only the direction of his interests one would reasonably question. ID types are not the big issue for his kids' education.O'Leary
June 22, 2011
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Well done vj!! ;-)Blue_Savannah
June 22, 2011
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Kudos to Torley for Internet sleuthing. I knew MathGrrl wasn't a girl, of course, and had said so earlier in private correspondence. He "wrote like a girl" which girls don't normally do in a situation like this. 'Cause the guys would be all over them ... When a girl wants her arguments taken seriously in difficult situations, she - TYPICALLY! - represents herself as a guy. Consider "Portia" in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice: Girl makes self out to be guy (lawyer), to save a friend's life. Zillions of similar stories ... Re Grrl: Brief flurry of feminist interest in spelling the word that way. In some places, stuck. In most, discarded.O'Leary
June 22, 2011
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Alas as with Evolutionary Algorithms so it is with MathGrrl; Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WEbornagain77
June 22, 2011
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The sad part is that he is a father... Hopefully they are adopted or stepchildren. Just sayin'Joseph
June 22, 2011
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I thought mathgrrl was a lady. I read mathhgrrl as mathgirl.ute
June 22, 2011
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Gee, we are having an outbreak of middle-aged men pretending to be women, as Denyse linked to a Mark Steyn article on the same topic. Steyn suggested that these men feel that their opinions won't get the same hearing if they use their real identities. Somehow, being a woman is supposed to help their argument. I don't know which is more amusing, the idea that adopting a feminine persona is advantageous for the web, or the idea that such persons lack confidence in their logic that they must rely on emotional appeals.Robert Sheldon
June 22, 2011
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So, can someone now answer his original question ?Graham
June 22, 2011
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I don't like the idea of outing someone if they don't choose to be so outed, but Patrick left a hint to this effect on Markf's blog by posting under "Patrick." I pointed this out several weeks ago. He then explained: "I was using my father's laptop." That did not make any logical sense to me. It was my suspicion all along that MG was not MG.CannuckianYankee
June 22, 2011
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Mathgrrl was ideologically driven...say it ain't so. So Patrick, if you say I am equivocating on terms, then you must know of a distinction between that which acts as a code versus that which is a code. What is the distinction?.Upright BiPed
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