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Michael Flannery: Astounding News Flash!—Perry Marshall Singlehandedly Breaks the Deadlock Between Darwin and Design (or maybe not)

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Science historian Michael Flannery kindly contributed this review:

When I started reading Perry Marshall’s book, Evolution 2.0: Breaking the Deadlock Between Darwin and Design, I must confess to some consternation almost from the beginning.

While Marshall was quick to point out the shortcomings of the neo-Darwinian approach of common descent by means of natural selection through the undirected processes of chance and necessity, he oddly went on to claim that

ID, while recognizing many truths about biology that old-school Darwinism denies, ultimately abdicates its responsibility by jumping directly to ‘God did it’. At least in its most simple forms, ID halts scientific inquiry by dismissing too easily the possibility that God may have used a process to develop life on earth. Further investigation becomes impossible if a miraculous event cannot be reproduced in the lab (xxii-xxiii).

Now I don’t know of any position by any major ID theorist that jumps to the “God did it” conclusion claimed by Marshall. Curiously, Marshall seems to admit this in a note at the bottom of the same page in the tiniest of fonts:

But it’s important to note that for many ID advocates, God has little to do with ID. There’s an important distinction between IDers who believe in episodes of divine intervention and IDers who, often apart from religion, observe that mindless, materialistic processes simply fail to explain or adequately describe many aspects of living things (see Discovery Institute at http://discovery.org/about, accessed January 13, 2015). . . . ID asserts that the same principles of design employed in architecture, computer science, and music are valid and necessary in science and biology. One need not care about theological questions to recognize that Darwinism fails to answer science questions as well. In the pages to come I’ll describe why, from an engineering and technology point of view, ID raises question we cannot afford to ignore—because they are not only scientifically sound but commercially valuable.

So, which is it? Is ID, as Marshall asserts in his main text, a misguided “God did it” science-stopper or is it what he claims in his tiny-fonted footnote? It seems to me that Marshall starts out from the beginning talking out of both sides of his mouth.

He seems to suggest that ID is too direct, too immediate an inference to a designer; that ID is necessary only insofar as it is mediated through processes. (Aren’t those the very “principles” [i.e. processes] of architecture, computer science, and music to which he alludes?) Given this, I fail to see where he is adding anything new. His so-called “third way” is really just another version of ID. In fact Stephen Meyer’s excellent definition of ID makes this whole book unnecessary. Meyer states quite clearly, “the theory of intelligent design holds that there are tell-tale features of living systems and the universe that are best explained by an intelligent cause—that is, by the conscious choice of a rational agent—rather than by an undirected process” (Signature in the Cell, 4). So the issue isn’t process vs. miracle, rather it is between directed and undirected process. I would direct attention to Meyer’s use of the word “tell-tale.”

There is no “jump” to “God did it” or even to the miraculous in this definition—Paley is not waving his magic wand here—the “tell-tale” signs are essentially forensic, precisely embedded in the codes, etc. that Marshall is talking about. But strangely one searches in vain for any mention of Meyer’s Signature book and perusal of the bibliography finds it conspicuously absent.

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Nevertheless, there is much good in the book. Marshall makes much of the coding capacities of cells, which makes him predictably enamored of Lynn Margulis’s symbiogenesis. However, he departs from her larger Gaia hypothesis that sees these tiny marvels as simply wholly non-teleological, self-creating and self-sustaining properties of nature. (Good thing too, an interview with Margulis published in Discover [April 2011] just months before her death ventured toward the bizarre when she claimed “consciousness is a property of all living cells.”) Marshall really does believe that nature is teleological and that an outside code-giver can only explain the first biological cell, and it follows that his definition of Evolution 2.0 is “the cell’s capacity to adapt and to generate new features and new species by engineering its own genetics in real time” (145).

It can do this through his “Swiss Army knife” analogy whereby Evolution 2.0 functions through the “five blades” of epigenetics, transposition, horizontal gene transfer, hybridization, and symbiogenesis. Marshall points out that Evolution 2.0 is fast, organized, adaptive, and functions through natural genetic engineering. However, lest he fall prey to simply accepting Margulis’s strange “cells are intelligent” argument, Marshall passionately defends a theistic (indeed Christian) solution to the question of an ultimate Code-Giver, the inventor and patent- holder of his “Swiss Army knife.” Marshall also ably defends Mike Behe’s irreducible complexity argument against all challenges, pointing out that “none of the papers that challenge the irreducible complexity argument about the flagellum solve the problem within the gradual-mutation framework [italics in the original]” (172). Furthermore, Marshall’s understanding of the relationship of science/faith question is cogently addressed in his chapter 28, “On the Shoulders of Giants: When Men of Science Were Also Men of Faith.”

Marshall is certain of his thesis, so certain in fact that he’s is offering a $10 million-dollar prize to anyone or group who can demonstrate a naturally occurring code—i.e, $100,000 for anyone that discovers “a purely chemical process that produces codes” (201) and $9.9 million if it is patentable. His appendix 4 outlines eleven specific and clearly defined criteria that must be met to claim this prize. Of course, given everything else in Marshall’s book, his money should be safe. He is putting his readers on a fool’s errand. While the prize makes for an interesting media stunt, it shows the author’s sense of marketing and attention-getting maneuvers to gain visibility for his ideas. Frankly, I like this gutsy approach despite its rather P. T. Barnum flavor.

However, on the whole I find this book an effort at co-option. Marshall is simply taking ID concepts and ideas and re-packaging them as Evolution 2.0. Perhaps that’s to get folks to understand and accept ID, or (less generously) perhaps it might just be to sell books. I’m not suggesting Marshall is being disingenuous (I’m sure he’s committed to every word of his book), but frankly most of the salient ideas in it have already been long and well expressed by ID proponents, and efforts to belittle the ID brand are misguided and self-serving. Marshall’s truly original contribution is that he claims his book is “breaking the deadlock between Darwin and design” by creating a so-called “third way.” But, in fact, his “third way” adds nothing new to any of the basic ID arguments offered by its modern-day proponents.

So, in the end, I can only offer a final assessment reminiscent of a devastating 18th-century critique attributed to Samuel Johnson: Mr. Marshall, your book “is both good and original but the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good.” My advice to Marshall is simple: stop co-opting the ideas to which you subscribe and start cooperating with your manifest allies. More is to be gained by working in concert than in conflict.

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Note: Perry Marshall  (left) vs. P.Z.Myers (radio)

Perry Marshall is an online marketing strategist with a background in computer engineering. His new book ‘Evolution 2.0: Breaking the deadlock between Darwin and Design’ claims to show a ‘third way’ which proves evolutionary changes are neither random not accidental but are targeted, adaptive and aware.PZ Myers is well known as an evolutionary biologist and strident atheist blogger. He believes Marshall’s book is flawed. They debate the mechanics of the cell, how information arises and whether…

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There is lot that can be inferred about the designers of life on earth from observing current living organisms and the fossil record. Here are a few that fall off the top of my head. 1. There were many of them. This is evident in the different styles and sense of humor/beauty we see in the created organisms. 2. Some of the designers were exceedingly infatuated with bugs. 3. They were not in a hurry. They had no problem with conducting ecological experiments that lasted hundreds of millions of years or more. 4. They either made mistakes or changed their minds about previous designs on several occasions as evidenced by the massive extinction events seen in the fossil record. But it could also be that those events were planned from the beginning of the experiments. 5. They strongly believe in the age-old practice of reusing previous designs as much as possible. This is why the different species share so many genes in common and why they fall into a mostly nested hierarchy. Intelligent design 101. 6. They obviously have a way to store different genes and sequences, and a way to edit, mix and match them on demand. 7. They have the ability to transfer genes that were designed for one species into other distantly related species. 8. They love hierarchical designs: Both the genome and the brain's cortex have a hierarchical organization. 9. They seem to have based they work on a Yin-Yang principle: male/female, left/right brain hemispheres, double helix, etc. 10. They are obviously conducting a grand experiment which is still ongoing. And humans seem to be the main subjects of the experiment. There is a lot more that can be inferred, I'm sure.Mapou
January 11, 2016
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Eric Anderson: Thank you for your very good insights. My point is very simple: the design inference has nothing to do with all the questions I mentioned, and is independent from such considerations. However, once one accepts the design inference for a whole class of objects (the biological objects), or at least for most of them, then those questions become scientifically necessary and legitimate (which does not mean that all of them can find an answer, at least with our available data). I think that ID should be a general paradigm, which starts with the design inference and goes on with a whole new scientific approach to reality.gpuccio
January 11, 2016
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Incidentally, I don't know that it is possible to ever get away from the fact that some people supportive of ID will promote a wrong impression of ID. ID is, in that sense, in a similar position to that of Darwinism: There are always going to be people who point to ID as "proof" of the existence of God, or their particular version of God, or some other personal religious or philosophical preference. Just as there are always going to be people who point to Darwinism as "proof" for their atheistic worldview. The best we can do is continue to be clear about what the design inference is and what it isn't, and hope that most people will eventually come around to understanding where the line is.Eric Anderson
January 11, 2016
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Mung @18:
. . . the ID community needs to start taking seriously how it is perceived by others, especially within science.
Meaning what? ID proponents certainly have an excellent idea of how ID is perceived among the establishment. So what does it mean that we should start taking it seriously? That ID proponents should roll over and accept that ID means what its detractors say it means? Or perhaps ID proponents should continue to try to make sure it is perceived correctly, through the (admittedly slow and laborious) effort to correct misunderstandings, combat blatantly false allegations, with the hope that some people will be smart enough to pay attention and understand what ID actually is. The strength of ID lies precisely in the fact that it limits itself to a narrow, clearly-identifiable, clearly-investigatable set of questions. It doesn't pretend to be a theory of everything. Now someone could be an ID proponent and use that ID background or go beyond ID to start investigating additional questions, like those gpuccio mentions @19. But that does not mean that ID itself is concerned with questions like the identity of the designer, or whether design was gradual or sudden, or what procedures were used to implement the design. Again, we need to be extremely scrupulous about distinguishing between the concept of intelligent design -- the design inference itself -- and what people might do with that inference once it is made. Failure to be scrupulous (including, unfortunately, by many people who are sympathetic to design) is indeed part of the source of the problem about perception within the science community.Eric Anderson
January 11, 2016
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LoL! @ me OK Mike Flannery, got it. My bad. The prize can possibly reach 10 million.Virgil Cain
January 11, 2016
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As I have often discussed here, I am absolutely convinced that a design paradigm must bring us to a lot of new questions: Who is the designer or the designers? When did the design happen? What implementation procedures were used? What kind of consciousness-matter interface is implied? Where was the design implemented? Was it sudden or gradual? And so on. All of those questions must be addressed exclusively on a scientific basis: answers, is and when are possible, must be suggested only by observed facts and good inferences from them.gpuccio
January 11, 2016
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A point that Perry makes is that the ID community needs to start taking seriously how it is perceived by others, especially within science. Such perceptions include that it's a science stopper and that it's a god designer of the gaps argument. Saying it's not a designer of the gaps argument and that it's not a science stopper doesn't help if the typical offering of ID is for someone to say "therefore intelligent design is a better explanation" and stop with that statement. If the goal of the ID movement is to get miracles accepted within science, so much the worse for ID. If it's miraculous then it's no better than goddidit. If it's not miraculous then there ought to be more that can be said than "therefore design."Mung
January 11, 2016
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"Goddidit" no more stops science than "nature & chance did it". "God did it" doesn't stop anyone from modeling the behavior of matter and calling that model of behavior a "natural law", a specific kind of energy, or a force. ID is a paradigm of investigation, just as naturalism is a paradigm of investigation. What are you looking for? How are you looking for it? What do you expect to find? Where are you looking? The reason a lot of what modern biology has found is both unexpected and troubling is because it doesn't fit the naturalistic paradigm - what we would expect to see under a framework limited to law and chance. Are natural laws even something you'd expect under a non-ID paradigm? ID is a broader paradigm because it can rightfully ask not only naturalistic questions and pursue naturalistic investigations, but also those that require design, purpose and teleology.William J Murray
January 11, 2016
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Virgil, Just a quick point: If you go to chapter 23, "Information: The Ten-Million-Dollar Question," of Marshall's book you'll see where he is offering a total prize of $10 million.Flannery
January 11, 2016
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I know Perry and have discussed ID with him. His strategy is to simply create a platform that cleans up evolutionary theory from its current state of dogma. He has no problem with the concept of ID he only wants its supporters working on science that connects the concept with the mechanism through experiment. I think Doug Axe and Ann Gauger's recent paper is nicely moving in this direction.http://www.donotlink.com/htdpbill cole
January 11, 2016
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The whole ID premise is based on probability. Namely, that the probability of an intelligent designer for a complex functioning entity is much higher than the probability for a natural explanation for this entity. No mention of God. No mention of the designer's motives. No mention of who or what the designer is. Answering questions about these issues is beyond ID. The main argument against ID is that there was no possible designer, thus, there must be a naturalistic explanation. It is an argument based on fiat or assertion. The ID argument is different and is based on logic and not fiat. It is there is a high probability that there was a designer, since naturalistic methods are highly improbable. No God of the gaps argument. It leaves open the possibility for a naturalistic explanation but at present the odds are infinitesimally low. The real gaps argument is on the other side, in that they have ruled out a designer arbitrarily. Remember Dawkins gave the game away when he revealed his true beliefs by saying that a designer makes the most sense just as long as it is not God.jerry
January 11, 2016
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Why is it so hard for some people to understand the difference between the specific claims of a theory and the potential implications of those claims? ID has never identified the designer. It doesn't seek to. It doesn't claim to be able to. It is not a theory of everything. It addresses a very limited set of questions. Many supporters of Darwinism seem keen on pointing out that belief in Darwinism does not, in and of itself, entail atheism. Yet they can't seem to make the logical connection on the other side of the coin. Apparently they are operating with some kind of philosophical bias or mental block . . .Eric Anderson
January 11, 2016
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Mung, ID is about the detection and study of design. That means it doesn't stop at "it's designed". There is still plenty of work to do to figure out the design so that we can either maintain it, fix it or duplicate it.Virgil Cain
January 11, 2016
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Now I don’t know of any position by any major ID theorist that jumps to the “God did it” conclusion claimed by Marshall.
Mayer, Dembski and others at DI routinely point to supernatural mind or deus ex machina as the source of the intelligence behind (some cases of) biological complexity. That's merely euphemistic rephrasing of "God did it."nightlight
January 11, 2016
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Hi Robert, Compose your post then click on the two arrows that make a circle to re-fresh the captcha. Fill in the new captcha and then post comment. The key is to refresh the captcha just prior to committing the post.Mung
January 11, 2016
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I recently witnesses an exchange between Casey Luskin and Perry Marshall, and Casey would repeatedly say that this or that feature was designed and then just stop. So whether or not that full stop indicated [insert designer here] or something else it certainly makes it appear to opponents of ID that that the default thing to insert is "goddidit." Perry's argument is that until ID ceases to say therefore design and then stop there, it will always be perceived as a god of the gaps style argument that is a science stopper. I agree with Perry about that.Mung
January 11, 2016
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I read the book and Marshall has obviously never read "Not By Chance" by Lee Spetner nor its follow up "The Evolution Revolution" as he "borrows" some of its concepts, ie the evolution happens but not by chance, ie mutations are not all happenstance occurrences. The best part of the book, however, was his information challenge, offering 3.1 million dollars to anyone who can show a code can come from something other than intelligent agencies. 3.1 million not 10 million- http://cosmicfingerprints.com/solve/ As for God halting scientific inquiry- LoL! The founders of modern science saw science as a way of understanding God's Creation.Virgil Cain
January 11, 2016
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Tjguy: "I’m afraid that in our effort to remain respectable in the “scientific” community, we have put unnatural limits on the Creator. We rob Him of the glory that He deserves for His creative power and work by limiting how He is allowed to use His unlimited power and wisdom." I sympathize with your view. The fundamental distinction between science and religion is the notion of miracle. For this reason, I am personally not in favor of explaining the Revelation in terms of science because science is not up to the task. Science is too weak, too limited to provide a basis for a world view. For science there is no miracle (for understandable reasons). But, as you point out, the big picture perspective must not be lost, which is, imo, that everything is really a miracle (including science itself, why it works, etc.). This is a distinction between scientists and poets, in the parlance of G. Chesterton.EugeneS
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Robert asks: "I’m not able to post because the thing keeps telling me the time limit has finished which is not true as I post quick things. Is there anyone who can tell me whats wrong?" Robert, I think all you need to do is to refresh the capcha numbers before trying to post. I have had the same problem. Must be a change in the system. But if you click on those two arrows that form a circle beside the capcha numbers and then enter the number right before you post your message, it should work fine.tjguy
January 10, 2016
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Marshall says:
At least in its most simple forms, ID halts scientific inquiry by dismissing too easily the possibility that God may have used a process to develop life on earth. Further investigation becomes impossible if a miraculous event cannot be reproduced in the lab (xxii-xxiii).
OK, fair enough, but is there ever a point when we are permitted to recognize the "God did it." idea as a real possibility? Or are we committed to searching for a natural solution to the day we die? Modern day "science" has decided to arbitrarily rule out that possibility. True, it sure does keep the door open for further research - probably forever! But it doesn't necessarily mean we will ever arrive at the truth for philosophical reasons. It seems to me that Perry is saying that we can never allow a role for the Creator and never allow for the possibility that the Creator might have used a miracle in the creative process. In order to keep it all "scientific", perhaps that is the position that we must take, but personally, I'm not comfortable with simply ruling out any and all possibility of a supernatural God using His supernatural power to create the world. I don't think that the Designer really has any concern for the demands of "science". I don't think He has any interest in making sure that the way He created the world meets the arbitrary standards set up by scientists so that His creative process can be legitimately labelled "scientific". That's just plain old silly if you ask me. I'm afraid that in our effort to remain respectable in the "scientific" community, we have put unnatural limits on the Creator. We rob Him of the glory that He deserves for His creative power and work by limiting how He is allowed to use His unlimited power and wisdom. OK, so I'm a creationist, but it seems to me that ID, in it's determined effort to be a viable scientific theory, is very possibly getting further and further away from the truth.tjguy
January 10, 2016
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I'm not able to post because the thing keeps telling me the time limit has finished which is not true as I post quick things. Is there anyone who can tell me whats wrong?Robert Byers
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ID did not jump but concluded on the rules of human investigation that complexity shows a complicated thinker behind the creation of the complexity.Robert Byers
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"So the issue isn’t process vs. miracle, rather it is between directed and undirected process." So is this the only difference between Theistic Evolution and ID now?tjguy
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Perry Marshall speaks from both sides of his mouth, i.e., with a forked tongue. Besides, I never understood the claim that God-did-it somehow stops scientific inquiry. Where did that come from? Isaac Newton also believed that God did it. Did that prevent him from becoming the father of modern physics? On the contrary, Newton credited his belief in a logical God for his understanding of nature.Mapou
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