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Neo-Darwinism is Collapsing Under the Weight of the Integration of the Sciences

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DaveScot recently offered a post entitled “Biologists Are Not Design Experts” in which he commented about Darwinian (i.e., blind-watchmaker) evolution apologists who propose that those in other disciplines should keep their noses out of Darwinian evolutionary theory, presumably because these would-be naysayers are not experts in blind or (as Phillip Johnson so eloquently puts it) comatose watchmaking.

In reply to a commenter, DaveScot retorts: “Keep in mind this [Dave’s original post] is a response to a Panda’s Thumb article saying scientists ought to stay within their expertise. They of course are directing it specifically at mathematicians like Dembski and Berlinski telling them to butt out of biology, plus non-specifically to any of the scientists on the Dissent from Darwinism list that aren’t biologists. I’m just giving them a taste of their own medicine.”

The problem is that Darwinian evolutionary theorists (and their spinoff cohorts in evolutionary sociology and psychology, who really should seek medical or other counseling to put them back in touch with reality) have lost touch with the rest of the scientific community.

Darwinian evolutionary biologists have enjoyed a privileged position of authority, especially in academia, because anyone who questions their theses, whether on the grounds of theoretical principle or evidence, is immediately labeled an enemy of science. Never mind that the hypotheses are built on a foundation of wishful speculation, and that contradictory evidence is consistently ignored or dismissed with ridicule.

The essence of the Darwinian evolutionary hypothesis can be comprehended with little effort by almost anyone: Vary stuff randomly, and keep the stuff that works the best. The stuff that works the best will make copies of itself. This explains everything!

But an interesting turn of events has occurred in the last 30 or so years.

Scientists in other fields have started to question the “vary stuff” part of the hypothesis. Engineers, mathematicians, computer programmers and information theorists understand the statistical problems presented by the phenomenon of combinatoric explosion, which evolutionary biologists ignore as being surmountable with time and probabilistic resources, with no hard analysis of the probabilities involved.

Paleontologists have always known that the overall evidence of the fossil record is one of stasis and sudden appearance, not incremental change. Evolutionary biologists tell paleontologists, and the rest of us, that we all should ignore the Himalayan-sized mountains of contrary evidence, and accept imaginative stories about incremental change where the fossil record is most incomplete.

The bottom line is that Darwinian hypothesizers are finally being exposed to scrutiny by those outside the field, who have a better understanding about how things really are, and about how things really work.

The resultant panic and fear-mongering by Darwinists is clear evidence that they don’t have the goods, and they know it.

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Karen, The point isn't that many paleontologists share the Darwin view of evolution but that many such as Eldredge and Valentine don't and had to find alternatives. If the fossil record supported Darwin's view why would there even be an issue?jerry
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"...Evolution cannot forever be going on someplace else. Yet that’s how the fossil record has struck many a forlorn paleontologist looking to learn something about evolution."

Hey, nice quote mining, Gil. Except the emphasised part makes clear what he really meant.

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March 20, 2006
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This quote by Niles Eldredge is out of context. Eldredge is into "punk eek. " I believe that Charles1859 is correct-- not all paleontologists share the "punctuated equilibrium" view of evolution.Karen
March 20, 2006
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"No wonder paleontologists shied away from evolution for so long. It seems never to happen. Assiduous collecting up cliff faces yields zigzags, minor oscillations, and the very occasional slight accumulation of change over millions of years, at a rate too slow to really account for all the prodigious change that has occurred in evolutionary history. When we do see the introduction of evolutionary novelty, it usually shows up with a bang, and often with no firm evidence that the organisms did not evolve elsewhere! Evolution cannot forever be going on someplace else. Yet that's how the fossil record has struck many a forlorn paleontologist looking to learn something about evolution." (Niles Eldredge, Chief Curator at The American Museum Of Natural History, Reinventing Darwin, 1996, p.95.)GilDodgen
March 19, 2006
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"Paleontologists have always known that the overall evidence of the fossil record is one of stasis and sudden appearance, not incremental change." This is absolutely untrue. I suggest you read Carroll's "Vertebrate Paleontology" which has been in print for over 25 years.charles1859
March 19, 2006
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This is factually incorrect.

In fact, as more academic departments become integrated, more and more jobs are available that seek people that have an evolutionary background.

Here are some current examples of departments/centers that are taking this new integrative approach.

At MIT, the Broad institute:

http://www.broad.mit.edu/mpg/

At Harvard's Center for Genomic Research (goal number 3):

http://www.cgr.harvard.edu/goals/goals___philosophy.html

At the Cornell Genomics Initiative:

http://www.genomics.cornell.edu/focus_areas/evolutionary/

At Duke:

http://www.genome.duke.edu/centers/ceg

In fact, if anything, integration between molecular biology, genetics and evolution is making an evolutionary perspective more desirable.

How you make the claims you do are a complete mystery. Without genetics evolutionary biology would be stuck pasting artist renderings of extinct animals inspired by imprints of bones in rock into picture books that delight children but hold no practical interest for anyone. You conflate useless evolutionary biology of the far past with modern genetics and the study of living organisms. Tsk tsk tsk. MIT doesn't mention evolution. Harvard is only interested in microevolution. Cornell paid lip service to evolution but didn't staff the project with a single evolutionary biologist. Duke's whole project is two guys both with the same credentials. I'd say nice try but I'd be lying because it really blew chunks. Is that why you picked your pseudonym? -ds :lol: senatorchunk
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GilDodgen said: "Evolutionary biologists tell paleontologists, and the rest of us, that we all should ignore the Himalayan-sized mountains of contrary evidence, and accept imaginative stories about incremental change where the fossil record is most incomplete." Nicely said, Gil. That Neo-Darwinists are surounded by those insurmountable "himalayan-sized mountains of contrary evidence" might help explain the "panic and fear-mongering". With no escape available, the only choice is to dig in and fight for the status quo through whatever means possible. It's hard to imagine someone taking the high ground in such low-lying territory - but that is the hallmark of self-deception. Fortunately for all of us, the cycle of life guarentees a continuous inflow of new ideas and new thinkers who don't care about the status quo. Eventually the truth will win out - it is not a matter of choice, just a matter of time.dougmoran
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