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On the Magical Thinking Inherent in the New Atheism

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Our atheist friends delight in preening over their rejection of the “irrational” and “magic.”  Not so writes David Bentley Hart:

All of which is to say (to return to where I began) that it is absurd to think that one can profess atheism in any meaningful way without thereby assenting to an entire philosophy of being, however inchoate one’s sense of it may be. The philosophical naturalist’s view of reality is not one that merely fails to find some particular object within the world that the theist imagines can be descried there; it is a very particular representation of the nature of things, entailing a vast range of purely metaphysical commitments.

Principally, it requires that one believe that the physical order, which both experience and reason say is an ensemble of ontological contingencies, can exist entirely of itself, without any absolute source of actuality. It requires also that one resign oneself to an ultimate irrationalism: For the one reality that naturalism can never logically encompass is the very existence of nature (nature being, by definition, that which already exists); it is a philosophy, therefore, surrounded, permeated, and exceeded by a truth that is always already super naturam, and yet a philosophy that one cannot seriously entertain except by scrupulously refusing to recognize this.

It is the embrace of an infinite paradox: the universe understood as an “absolute contingency.” It may not amount to a metaphysics in the fullest sense, since strictly speaking it possesses no rational content—it is, after all, a belief that all things rest upon something like an original moment of magic—but it is certainly far more than the mere absence of faith.

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john_a_designer: Thinking of starting a blog are you? Here, let me give you a taste of what that will be like; "Shut-up you racist bigot". There, welcome to the blog world!ronvanwegen
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Atheism has always been a magic cult. Atheists believe in all sorts of impossible (i.e., magical) occurrences without evidence.ichisan
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jad @ 4: Great questions. Maybe the always present a/mat, rvb8, will answer them for us. He will likely say "I don't know," and then with the next breath categorically deny the existence of a Supreme Being...as if he knows. Smile.Truth Will Set You Free
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If I ever start my own blog (I’ve given the idea some serious thought) I would have a few basic guidelines. One of them would be that honest questions deserve honest answers. Another would be that valid arguments rest on non-fallacious reasoning and factually true or at least plausibly true premises. These are two thing I find virtually non-existent on the part of our atheist interlocutors here. I don’t see how you can have a meaningful or worthwhile discussion without one the other or both. Have you noticed how our interlocutors hardly ever answer some basic questions? For example, recently on another thread I asked a set of very basic questions which so far have gone unanswered:
How did the universe originate from absolute nothing? Why does the universe appear to be fine-tuned for life, including advanced intelligent life? How did life originate from non-life? How did chemistry “create”** code? (Like DNA and RNA.) How did a non-teleological process, like Darwinian evolution, “create” things that are clearly teleological? How did consciousness and mind originate from mindless matter and a mindless process? To answer any of these questions naturalistically, as far as I can see, requires the belief in what amounts to be a set of “naturalistic miracles.” How is a naturalistic miracle not an extraordinary [or "magical"] claim?
https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/neurosurgeon-michael-egnor-why-need-we-pretend-that-the-universe-has-no-purpose/#comment-637966 In other words, as an honest skeptic, (theists can be skeptics too) why would I think a naturalist/materialist has a reasonable or viable world view if he cannot answer these questions? Just being against ID, pretension and posturing, obstructing and obfuscating are not reasons or argument to believe that naturalism/materialism are true.john_a_designer
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I like sci-fi.Mung
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Not only will they not admit it, we get to read them quoting from juvenile sci-fi novels. Andrewasauber
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Of course, this is all true. But most a/mats are not honest enough to admit it.Truth Will Set You Free
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