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Paul Zachary Myers: Evolutionist and Now Imminent Desecrator


This just posted on the Catholic League’s website:

July 10, 2008

Paul Zachary Myers, a professor at the University of Minnesota Morris, has pledged to desecrate the Eucharist. He is responding to what happened recently at the University of Central Florida when a student walked out of Mass with the Host, holding it hostage for several days. Myers was angry at the Catholic League for criticizing the student. His post can be accessed from his faculty page on the university’s website.

Here is an excerpt of his July 8 post, “It’s a Frackin’ Cracker!”:

“Can anyone out there score me some consecrated communion wafers?” Myers continued by saying, “if any of you would be willing to do what it takes to get me some, or even one, and mail it to me, I’ll show you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare. I won’t be tempted to hold it hostage (no, not even if I have a choice between returning the Eucharist and watching Bill Donohue kick the pope in the balls, which would apparently be a more humane act than desecrating a goddamned cracker), but will instead treat it with profound disrespect and heinous cracker abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue responded as follows:

“The Myers blog can be accessed from the university’s website. The university has a policy statement on this issue which says that the ‘Contents of all electronic pages must be consistent with University of Minnesota policies, local, state and federal laws.’ One of the school’s policies, ‘Code of Conduct,’ says that ‘When dealing with others,’ faculty et al. must be ‘respectful, fair and civil.’ Accordingly, we are contacting the President and the Board of Regents to see what they are going to do about this matter. Because the university is a state institution, we are also contacting the Minnesota legislature.

“It is hard to think of anything more vile than to intentionally desecrate the Body of Christ. We look to those who have oversight responsibility to act quickly and decisively.”

SOURCE: go here

Mr. Myers, before you do your big project, you better prove that the host is really consecrated. You need to show the evidence, including informations on from where, which church, who consecrated. (I hope you don't have anything to hide on this.) Otherwise you will be totally wasting your time, because people cannot believe it's truly consecrated. It seems that you are the type who likes to prove things and show evidences, therefore, you should also prove that what you are saying is authentic. You mentioned that people just gave you the consecrated host, but it's just your word. You need to prove it. Also, you need to prove that your knowledge surpasses that of the Holy Church, including all the church scholars, the Saints, and martyrs of the Church, who spent their lives believing in the Eaucharist. Otherwise your limited knowledge and the human science that can prove only a very small portion of what's going on in Nature can only show that they are inadequate to prove God's miracle and God's creation. So, you got enough attetion from the people. Now it's time to make your preparation more authentic. miacoyne
Another reason for the swift disappearance of all things Myers may also be because he was running his mouth about a few of the more in-vogue religions, too, on his page. Word of that gets out and he may be meeting his Maker before we do. lamt
"Reg - is this supposed to be some kind of diversion?" No, it's just a correction of Dave Scott's claim that Myers was denying the cracker article was accessible from his faculty webpage. I'd have thought that was clear. Reg
Reg - is this supposed to be some kind of diversion? It isn't working. rhodeymark
He said you couldn’t access the article from his faculty page.
Where does he say this?
You actually could get to the article directly from his faculty page.
I haven't seen Myers deny that you can get to the article from his faculty page; he has denied that the article was hosted on a university server.
Myers lied by omission by not saying it was true until very recently that you could access the article from his faculty page.
This is different from your earlier claim that Myers lied by commission; saying the cracker article was not accessible from his faculty page. You are now saying that Myers was lying by omission; not saying that the cracker article was accessible from his faculty page. For clarity, what specific lie are do accuse Myers of? Reg
Reg No, that's not what he said either. He said you couldn't access the article from his faculty page. His faculty page is down. He did not say it wasn't hosted there just that you can't get to it from there. You actually could get to the article directly from his faculty page. His faculty page, as well as his faculty directory entry, both contained hot links to scienceblogs.com/pharyngula and if you clicked on those links (before they disappeared) it would take you to the home page of Pharyngula and the most recent article at the top of the page would have been the desecration article. The Catholic League didn't lie. Myers lied by omission by not saying it was true until very recently that you could access the article from his faculty page. Myers isn't half as bright as he thinks he is. DaveScot
Dave Scott said:
Oh goody. Myers is now lying about it on his website. He denies the cracker article is accessable from his faculty webpage.
No he doesn't. What he said was "notice how they [Catholic League] repeat that you can access my post from my faculty page, nicely avoiding the fact that the post they find so offensive is not hosted on any university server". He did not deny the cracker article was accessible from his faculty page; he said that the cracker article was not hosted on university equipment. Reg
"Oh goody. Myers is now lying about it on his website. He denies the cracker article is accessable from his faculty webpage." Wow, a militant atheist lying, what a surprise. MaxAug
Darwinism and atheism are commom bed fellows! Mats
What are they thinking? Isn't it at least possible that the new Louisiana law will get to the Supreme court? And aren't there 5 Catholics on that court? They really must not care about Anthony Kennedy's vote. Read the last sentence of Matteo again:
I didn’t see anything wrong with Darwinism then [the early nineties], but I most certainly do now.
That is not just true for Catholics. I'm Protestant and don't believe in transubstantiation, but that kind of behavior repulses me deeply too. Aren't these some of the same people who protested when the Taliban blew up those statues of Buddha? These people are outta (self) control. Kind of reminds one of BDS. Paul Giem
I've tried to post over at PZ's site but it keeps coming up "...page not found...". Anyone else having this problem. gleaner63
Doubtless, Mr. Myers and others will soon be fighting for a chance to urinate either on the Kaaba, or the Wailing Wall. Maybe they'll hold a raffle. wnelson
Assuming someone at Uncommon Descent hasn't already done so, I suggest a local save of Myers' two "cracker" posts before they disappear down the memory hole. One couldn't ask for a better example of evolutionary "theory" and it's fanboys being driven more by anti-theism than by dispassionate reasoning. Myers has served up quite an amazing PR disaster for his own cause. If I had a cabal of yes-man, know-nothing followers like he does polluting his comment streams, I'd be ashamed to even look at myself in the mirror. And the last thing I'd want is for anyone to see what an illustrious fan-club of sniveling bigots I inspire. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if these two posts (and counting?) of his eventually disappear entirely. He's really stepping in it. By analogy, there's a huge difference between, say, making fun of Jews at a party with your "enlightened" friends, and the act of actually going to a synagogue and pulling something that would be considered desecration by those in attendance. These bozos seem pretty sanguine about the prospects of associating their beloved Science! with the stench of the KKK. And they're too stupid to realize the kind of PR disaster they're creating for themselves. What a bunch of maroons. But hey, desperation is as desperation does. The Darwinist response to the ID challenge over the last dozen years has, after all, been nothing short of a shameful disgrace. I don't see how they can't not know this at some level. They sure are starting to act like they do. Sorry for being so blunt, but as an extremely serious Catholic and a devotee of legitimate science, well, you know, this kind of gets my goat. Perhaps Darwinism will finally tar itself in most minds with an unsavory, deeply unattractive connection to open bigotry. That seems to be all they have left. A lot has changed since the early nineties. I didn't see anything wrong with Darwinism then, but I most certainly do now. Matteo
Still pwning the religion is for weekends, "positive reinforcement" professor are we? :lol: This guy just keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for evolution's PR campaign. Isn't it ironic that he chose to attack the one religious doctrine that gave positive attention to evolution? F2XL
"Paul “Frackin’ Cracker” Myers" Love that handle!!!! FtK
The ID movement couldn't buy this kind of thing at any price. PZ may have a high IQ, but he's not very "brite." GilDodgen
It is a darn shame that The Brites are gone. Galapagos Finch would know how to handle PZ. soplo caseosa
Oh goody. Myers is now lying about it on his website. He denies the cracker article is accessable from his faculty webpage. Yeah, NOW it's not accessable but as all the cached entries above clearly show it WAS accessable until someone (either Myers or the University) thought discretion the better part of valor and tried to bury the evidence. DaveScot
Well, that was fast. The link to Myers' webpage is gone from his faculty page. Fortunately Google Cache from July 6th, 2008 still has it: The wayback machine has more copies here: UMN Faculty Page at Archive.org Check this out. Paul "Frackin' Cracker" Myers had Pharyngula mirrored on the University of Minnesota's webserver: http://web.archive.org/web/20050309041113/http://sci2135d1-pm.morris.umn.edu/ But wait! There's more! Myers was hosting a web page for the University of Morris Freethinkers (code-word for atheists) which we see in google's cache. Myers plonked that down the memory hole for some reason ;) too. http://tinyurl.com/59u63t This is so funny. The little turd is making everything that might offend a Catholic disappear from the University website. Or maybe not. It might be the university that ordered Myers' personal web pages removed from the University server. Either way, someone is doing some rapid CYA activities. Smithers! Release the hounds. DaveScot
jerry: go to the home page, select "Directories", then find the "Personal Pages" link on the left side under "Faculty & Staff" The link to P.Z. Myers' page is not currently working... SCheesman
Has anyone been able to find the page in question. When I went to UM Morris's web site I couldn't find the page. jerry
Is the imminent desecrator poised to become the eminent desecrator? I can't imagine this being good for his cause. He might win the approval of his sycophantic hordes, but this would likely cause embarrassment to anyone else associated with him. Apollos
Not to be in any way disrespectful, but I do wonder how Kenneth Miller might respond to his brother in arms here. Everyone knows Myers' M.O. Miller professes Christianity, but one must be careful of the company one keeps. Myers' typical vitriol does not by definition equate Darwinism with atheism, but one will find no atheist taking the ID point of view. I expect this from Myers. I am happy that the Roman Catholic Church has equated the two bedfellows in a single article. I wonder how far down the cultural ladder this will reach. toc

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