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Permissible errors in asserting design using the Explanatory Filter(s)

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Masters of stealth intent on concealing their actions may successfully evade the explanatory filter. But masters of self-promotion intent on making sure their intellectual property gets properly attributed find in the explanatory filter a ready friend.

Bill Dembski
Mere Creation

The Explanatory filter classifies systems or artifacts into 3 categories.

1. produced by law
2. produced by chance
3. produced neither by chance nor law (designed by definition)

Suppose we started out with the correct probability distributions. We can interpret the above statement by Bill to mean we might mistake a system as produced by chance or law when in fact it was produced by an intelligence. For example, if you had uniquely numbered fair coins, and they were arranged for you in the following way (with 1= heads, 0=tails), what would you say?

1101110010111011110001001101010111100110111101111……

Using ID procedures, in the absence of recognizing a design specification you would label the system as the product of chance, but if you recognized it as the digits of the Champernowne sequence, you’d say it is “produced neither by chance nor law and thus by definition is designed.”

Mistaking a design as the result of chance is perfectly within the framework of ID, such errors in using the Explantory Filter are acceptable (as evidenced by the quote above). For the sake of brevity, we don’t say:

produced by chance or produced by design that we mistake as chance

We merely say “chance”, with the provision that it is short hand for:

produced by chance or produced by design that we mistake as chance

The same holds true for making mistakes where we mistakenly attribute design to law.

The reliability of the filter rests on classifying things as “not chance and not law” based on an assumed probability distribution. The assumed distribution could of course be wrong, and thus the assertion of design could be wrong, but the inference relative to the assumptions is correct for “produced neither by chance nor law”. “Produced neither by chance nor law” means practically speaking “produced neither by chance nor law” according to the assumed distribution.

It does not mean the assumed distribution is correct, but it does mean the inference relative to the assumptions follows the correct deduction from the premises. This also means a design claim can be falsifiable if the assumptions are falsifiable.

So if someone says, “how do you know it is designed, you don’t have all the facts?” The correct response is, “in the ultimate sense, that may not be demonstrable, but relative to the assumptions I’m working from (which may be false assumptions), the inference of design is correct. Further, all things being equal, if I assert design on a reasonable distribution, the claim of design is always more likely to be true in the ultimate sense than the claim of mindless evolution.”

I gave an example of the design inference here:
Relevance of coin analogies to homochirality and symbolic organization in biology. The inference is correct with respect to the underlying assumptions. The underlying assumptions could be incorrect, but the deduction from the premises should be above reproach, and that’s what is meant by design inference.

NOTES

1. This discussion came up in part because Lizzie argues chance is the null (default) hypothesis for ID. I countered by saying the EF uses no null hypothesis. Any ID proponent is welcome to weigh in, but I don’t think Lizzie’s characterization is correct based on ID literature. It is true we assume chance by default if law and design are ruled out, but that’s different than saying chance is the null hypothesis.

2. Some design inferences in history were later falsified, like the craters of the moon. They looked so perfectly circular that some thought they had to be designed. That was one of the few rare cases where the product of law was mistaken for design. A meteor or rock hits the moon, it makes a circular crater. Also consider the effect of law in the Chlandi plate demonstration:
Response to Harry McCall (Chlandi plates)

3. Some will complain, “What if the design inference is wrong”, to which I respond, “Then we don’t lose much, but what if the non-design inference is wrong? What side of Pascal’s wager do you want to be on? What do you have to gain if non-design is true?”

See: If Darwinism were true, what is there to gain?

4. If you want to be an evolutionary formalist, you should say “I don’t know” in the face of uncertain probability distributions and stop trying to promote mindless evolution as “fact, fact, fact” when it is “speculation, speculation, speculation” and quit persecuting scientists and denying diplomas to students until you really know mindless evolution is true.

5. I used filter(s) in the title, various methods of rejecting the chance hypothesis may fail while others succeed. Someone with the Champernowne sequence in their EF filter library will recognize design, while others without the Champernowne sequence in the EF filter library won’t.

6. Bill Dembksi’s book The Design Inference makes clear it the inference is correct in principle based on the distributions assumed, he didn’t ever say we’ll necessarily have the correct distributions to work with. That is a Darwinist straw man, and like lots of strawman, it’s erected to make the appearance of an easy knockdown of a reasonable claim.

7. Summarizing the permissible errors of asserting design:

A. the assumptions are false (but that is true of every idea, not just ID), but all things being equal, if design is asserted, uncertainty favors the design case over the non-design case.

B. the assumptions are true, but we fail to recognize design. One example of that is the product of “Masters of Stealth” and another is the Champernowne sequence.

8. I’ve suggested (not insisted) a workable definition of “chance” is a process that maximizes uncertainty relative to the degrees of freedom of the symbols. To illustrate, maximum uncertainty implies a 50% proportion of heads in the case of coins and a 50% proportion of L-amino acids in the case of amino acids, and even less-than-50% proportions for alpha-peptide bonds in proteins/proteinoids and 3′-5′ in DNA chains.

Comments
So you are attempting to provide a definition of the word “design” in the context of ID, which I applaud. Unfortunately, this is merely a definition of what “design” is not, and not what it is. The inconvenient fact remains that nobody has ever demonstrated that anything at all – including human thought or behavior – transcends physical law (and chance, if you’d like to consider that a separate category). For all anyone knows, our design abilities proceed according to law+chance just like everything else, in a way that nobody understands.
IMO it is misguided to criticize ID over the definition of 'design.' From most of what I've read by ID proponents, 'design' is used in a fairly colloquial manner to indicate the application of planning and forethought to generate something (typically some functional arrangement of matter and energy). It doesn't follow that a failure to elucidate the intracacies and mysteries of consciousness somehow invalidates our firsthand, empirical knowledge that conscious activity is capable of generating arrangements of matter and energy that are inaccessible to lawlike forces. And I should note that when I say "inaccessible," I DO NOT mean that said arrangements violate physical laws, merely that physical laws are necessary but insufficient to serve as an adequate explanation for said arrangements.Optimus
December 23, 2013
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I think in one sense you are correct, flight is subject to the laws of nature, however, at the same time, flight requires anti-gravity measures to overcome it’s forces. Anti-gravity is a violation of the laws of gravity, is it not?
No - flight is a manifestation of how other principles of physics (e.g. Newton's Laws) interact to allow something (i.e. heavier than air flight) that may at first seem counterintuitive. Here's a link that you might find helpful (albeit with a grain of salt as it is Wikipedia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force)Optimus
December 23, 2013
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littlejohn, Transcendance of information and symbols is best illustrated by computer technology. We have hardware and we have software. The software transcends the physical characteristics of the physical computer. A "hello world" program will run on computer made of hafnium or silicon. There is a sense that symbolic concepts are somewhat decoupled form the physical substrate. You don't need a violation of physical law to demonstrate transcendence. The moment a physical object takes on symbolic meaning it begins to transcend pure physics in the way we understand it. We don't understand software in terms of the hardware it runs on, we think of it as something non-physical. You can describe physical things in terms of mass, energy, position, etc. Symbols and information are not described that way. Wings, birds, life, cars are made of matter but makes them wing, birds, life, cars is the symbolic organization, just like what makes software is the symbolic organization. Physics doesn't really have a way of saying something is functionally or meaningfully organized. The notion of software is a bit foreign to most physics.scordova
December 23, 2013
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RDfish, I think in one sense you are correct, flight is subject to the laws of nature, however, at the same time, flight requires anti-gravity measures to overcome it's forces. Anti-gravity is a violation of the laws of gravity, is it not? Can you provide some examples of violating the laws of physics that meet your qualifications? Honestly, I am confused.littlejohn
December 23, 2013
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Sal said, Whatever you make of it in methaphysical terms, I respect. I’m only telling you, I think you’re asking too much of ordinary people who look at symbolic organization like 500 fair coins heads or homochirality in biology — I think you’re asking too much of them when you suggest they not associate it with Design-Met. I say, Amen and Amen. This sums up the entire rub. Ordinary people will always infer design when they see things like this and no amount of protestation from the brights will change that for us. In a world ruled by reason everyone would accept that "symbolic organization" requires an explanation and design deniers would get to the hard work of trying to come up with a convincing one base on law and/or chance. Instead it's the folks who simply accept their hardwired common sense inference who are treated as reality denying dreamers and required to prove their case infallibly before it's validity is recognized. It's a bizarro world. peacefifthmonarchyman
December 23, 2013
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Hey Aiguy/rdfish, Talk about providence. I check back to see what is up and low and behold my favorite critic is still posting and still concerned that ID is trying to sneak libertarian free will and dualism in through the back door. Good to know you are still kicking. What will it take to finally assuage your fears? You've heard Sal's response clarifying the term in this discussion and you already know that libertarian free will is an anathema to Calvinist IDsts like me. Heck some of us are even agnostic about dualism. So there you go. Are you willing to play along or are you still afraid that somehow someway we sneaky fundies will trick you into swearing allegiance to the Cosmic funsucker in the sky if you give even an inch? Peacefifthmonarchyman
December 23, 2013
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unless you have taken the word “design” to mean something that has nothing whatsoever to do with any common usage of the word).
That's a good point. I agree with you the conflation and equivocations of the notions of design are deeply unfortunate. For at least the span of this thread, I'll use the term design-EF. Reminds me of the endless shouting matches over the definition of information and entropy. At least with design-EF, it is clear I'm talking about something not chance and not law. The term used to be CSI, but as you can see, almost no one at UD can agree on what CSI scores should be for even simple cases. I retain the word "design" because it is the philosophical belief in the ID community that design-EF is a subset of design-Met even though I suppose that can never be demonstrated formally.
By the way, Merry Christmas to you! Cheers, RDFish/AIGuy
Oh my goodness, so nice to hear it coming from you! Merry Christmas to you! Salscordova
December 23, 2013
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Hi littlejohn,
What sort of scientific evidence would you accept, that demonstrates physical law has been transcended?
There are any number of demonstrations that would violate known physics of course. Any observation that can be reliably verified by independent researchers that violates physical law would do it. What is relevant here, though, is a demonstration that human thought violates (or transcends) physical law, and no, I cannot think of a way that can be demonstrated. To me, it is an open question, and conscious phenomenology is deeply mysterious.
Does not bird flight, by overcoming gravity, etc., transcend physical law, and does not many other life processes transcend physical law, or am I misunderstanding your point?
You misunderstand - flight (of birds, or airplanes, or hot air balloons) are perfectly in accord with gravity and all other known physical laws. Cheers, RDFish/AIGuyRDFish
December 23, 2013
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Hi Sal,
I assert 100% of 500 fair coins will not be heads after a random process. That fact is undeniable experimentally and theoretically. I have not used some contorted metaphysical theological flyingspaghetti monster theory, I just used standard accepted scientific practice.
Of course that is right: When faced with 500 heads, it is safe to conclude that it was not the result of a fair toss. But it is not safe to conclude any other thing! When asked "How did these 500 heads come to be?", the only correct answer is "Nobody knows". To say "By design" is incorrect (unless you have taken the word "design" to mean something that has nothing whatsoever to do with any common usage of the word). By the way, Merry Christmas to you! Cheers, RDFish/AIGuyRDFish
December 23, 2013
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RDfish, What sort of scientific evidence would you accept, that demonstrates physical law has been transcended? Does not bird flight, by overcoming gravity, etc., transcend physical law, and does not many other life processes transcend physical law, or am I misunderstanding your point?littlejohn
December 23, 2013
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RDFish, [By the way, I like that handle]. Long time no see. There is Design in the methaphysical sense. And there are Designs in the EF sense. The two are not the same, now that you mention it. I think there is some unfortunate equivocations in the ID community as a result. Let me designate them: 1. Design-Met (design in the metaphysical sense) 2. Design-EF (design in the purely statistical sense) Bill clearly indicates some Design-Met will not be identified as Design-EF, i.e. that crafted by Masters of Stealth. But clearly, I provided in the 500 fair coins heads, an empirical example of Design-EF. Whether it has metaphysical implications, let me say, I have my opinions, but I don't think what I offered is in the 500 fair coins is wrong on statistical grounds. 500 fair coins heads evidences Design-EF, where I defined chance to be a process that maximizes symbolic uncertainty. Whether Design-EF has significance to Design-Met is a separate issue, but I think it is quite undeniable that certain systems arguably evidence Design-EF. You of all people I hoped would side with me in arguing that machine intelligence is capable of making systems that evidence Design-EF.
“design” is supposed to mean is “libertarian free will operating in a dualistic metaphysics”,
I'm sure for some, that's what Design-Met means, but that is separate (but not completely unrelated) to Design-EF.
The inconvenient fact remains that nobody has ever demonstrated that anything at all – including human thought or behavior – transcends physical law (and chance, if you’d like to consider that a separate category). For all anyone knows, our design abilities proceed according to law+chance just like everything else, in a way that nobody understands.
True, and our assumed distributions could be wrong. But look at the fair coins example. Using accepted operational scientific practice, I assert 100% of 500 fair coins will not be heads after a random process. That fact is undeniable experimentally and theoretically. I have not used some contorted metaphysical theological flyingspaghetti monster theory, I just used standard accepted scientific practice. It's philosophically possible the standard operational practice of science is wrong since it tells me 500 fair coins heads is not the result of a maximizing-uncertainty chance process and not a law-like determinism that forces heads under all boundary conditions. Standard operational scientific practice is good enough for me -- I'm a pragmatist, not a philosopher. I don't think I'm putting too much of a metaphysical twist to say 500 fair coins all heads evidences Design-EF. As you could hopefully see in this debate, those trying to argue that somehow this is an illusion of perception are the ones looking kooky, not the ID proponents. Whatever you make of it in methaphysical terms, I respect. I'm only telling you, I think you're asking too much of ordinary people who look at symbolic organization like 500 fair coins heads or homochirality in biology -- I think you're asking too much of them when you suggest they not associate it with Design-Met. From a scientific standpoint we can argue for Design-EF. I've proven reasonable cases in human affairs (500 fair coins all heads), and we can't run away form the fact it looks like we have that case in biology (homochirality, uniform bonding standards, grammars, etc.) I'm with you as far as saying Design-Met is hard to define scientifically, but I can't agree the Design-EF is an illusion and that systems conforming to Design-EF don't exist (they do, at least in human affairs, 500 fair coins heads is an example).scordova
December 23, 2013
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Hi Sal, Here's my usual (and never answered) criticism of ID: You write that the third category of the EF is:
3) produced neither by chance nor law (designed by definition)
So you are attempting to provide a definition of the word "design" in the context of ID, which I applaud. Unfortunately, this is merely a definition of what "design" is not, and not what it is. The inconvenient fact remains that nobody has ever demonstrated that anything at all - including human thought or behavior - transcends physical law (and chance, if you'd like to consider that a separate category). For all anyone knows, our design abilities proceed according to law+chance just like everything else, in a way that nobody understands. So simply defining "design" as "neither law nor chance", and then offering this negative definition as an explanation of something (like flagella or the physical constants or the results of an IQ test) is an exercise in speciousness. Until ID folks actually dare to say what they think design is instead of what they insist it is not, ID can never explain anything at all. A bit of honesty would help so much: ID ought to lay it's cards on the table, admit that what "design" is supposed to mean is "libertarian free will operating in a dualistic metaphysics", and concede that ID relies on metaphysical conjectures rather than any sort of reasoning from scientific evidence. Nothing wrong with that! Cheers, RDFish/AIGuyRDFish
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