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Planck satellite data says that big BICEP2 cosmic inflation multiverse was just dust

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From the Washington Post:

But now comes Planck, a European satellite, with its own dust map. The paper, signed by a very long list of authors, was submitted over the weekend to the physics pre-print site.

It is not good news for the BICEP2 team.

The Planck satellite has detected galactic dust, or more precisely the effects of galactic dust, at levels that could potentially explain away the entirety of the alleged cosmological signal reported by BICEP2 scientists at their big March 17 news conference at Harvard. More.

A couple of BICEP2 facts to keep out of the memory hole:

1. In Nature, it was claimed to strengthen the case for a multiverse.

2. Physicist Rob Sheldon, often featured here, identified quickly that the effect was probably created by dust.

If nothing else, this episode shows how much some need to believe we live in a multiverse.

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As long as 'making sense' does not include sanity,,, :) A Critique of the Many Worlds Interpretation - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_42skzOHjtA bornagain77
From BBC - Brian Cox: 'Multiverse' makes sense. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29321771 melvinvines
Fortunately in this case, we were able to test that interpretation of the data and see that it was wrong, but this is a good example of how bias plays a large role in how SCIENTISTS interpret data. And what about the biased interpretations of scientists that CANNOT be tested and either verified or falsified. These ideas get a free ride. No matter what our worldview, we have a tendency to read and interpret the data in a way favorable to our beliefs. Creationists are not free of this problem and neither are IDers. Another example of this is the Standard Model of cosmology and the Big Bang. Creationists do not accept it and point out the problems with the theory as supporting evidence for that doubt. Most IDers accept the Big Bang because they believe in some form of evolution, whether guided or front loaded, or whatever. The Big Bang supports a beginning for the world so many are ready to jump on the bandwagon and ignore the problems with it. It is the prevailing paradigm and evolutionary scientists too are for the most part on board with this theory in spite of it's problems because it gives them an explanation for the universe. Problem is, we can't test it and none of the models work yet. I don't mean to pick on the Big Bang. It just illustrates of problem with historical science. Normally, we can't test it. So much of what we believe to be true about the history of the universe MAY not actually be true, but we might never know it because we can't test our ideas. Fortunately in this case, further research was able to show that the interpretation of the data was false. tjguy
BA77, Thank you for the interesting information. As usual. “At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” ? Robert Jastrow, "God and the Astronomers" Dionisio
Good for Dr. Sheldon. I remember that he took some fairly nasty flack from another, I believe, physicist for coming out so strongly against the BICEP2 gravitational wave findings. a few supplemental notes:
Planck's view of the Universe (layers of filtering) - Oct. 18, 2013 - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0FgOwyu0w Planck Cruise to L2 (mapping CMBR) - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piYn0nbbJcs Planck satellite unveils the Universe -- now and then (w/ Video showing the mapping of the 'sphere' of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) - 2010 http://phys.org/news197534140.html#nRlv
Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.
The best data we have [concerning the Big Bang] are exactly what I would have predicted, had I nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the bible as a whole. Dr. Arno Penzias, Nobel Laureate in Physics - co-discoverer of the Cosmic Background Radiation - as stated to the New York Times on March 12, 1978 “Certainly there was something that set it all off,,, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis” Robert Wilson – Nobel laureate – co-discover Cosmic Background Radiation “There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the big bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.” George Smoot – Nobel laureate in 2006 for his work on COBE "Now we see how the astronomical evidence supports the biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy." Robert Jastrow – Founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute – Pg.15 ‘God and the Astronomers’
It is also very interesting to note that among all the 'holy' books, of all the major religions in the world, only the Holy Bible was correct in its claim for a transcendent origin of the universe. Some later 'holy' books, such as the Mormon text "Pearl of Great Price" and the Qur'an, copy the concept of a transcendent origin from the Bible but also include teachings that are inconsistent with that now established fact. (Hugh Ross; Why The Universe Is The Way It Is; Pg. 228; Chpt.9; note 5)
The Uniqueness Of The Bible Among 'holy books' and Evidence of God in Creation (Hugh Ross) – video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjYSz1OYG8Y
Verse: Genesis 1:3
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
Light's relation to sound:
Amazing Resonance Experiment! - video (varying geometric patterns correlate to changing frequencies) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w Photons and Phonons Excerpt: You see, the primary Planck-Law (E=hf) is metaphysical and independent on the inertia distribution of the solid states.,,, Both, photon and phonon carry massequivalent energy m=E/c2=hf/c2. The matter-light interaction so is rendered electromagnetically noninertial for the photon and becomes acoustically inertial for the phonons; both however subject to Bose-Einstein stochastic wave mechanics incorporative the Planck-Law.,, Where, how and why does E=hf correctly and experimentally verifiably describe the quantum mechanics of energy propagation?,,, http://www.tonyb.freeyellow.com/id135.html Phonon Excerpt: In physics, a phonon,, represents an excited state in the quantum mechanical quantization of the modes of vibrations,, The name phonon,, translates as sound or voice because long-wavelength phonons give rise to sound. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon
Nothing At All - Brian Weaver http://myktis.com/songs/nothing/
Dust in the solar winds. Mung
Without the Planck data, the Big Bang evangelists would be busy preaching all over the world that Big Bang, inflation and gravitational waves are scientific facts, that Einstein is once again the emperor god of the inflationary multiverse and that a creator God is not needed. Oh wait, I forgot. Science is not truth. It's a religion. Mapou

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