Religion dressed up as science?

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May 20, 2009

Intelligent Design}

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A review of a book titled “The Universe: Order without design” appears in New Scientist. The summary of current ideas has a mythic sound to ordinary readers “a tiny piece of inflating “false vacuum” decays into a fireball, and stars and galaxies congeal out of the cooling debris”. Read it and see what you think.

I have two questions.

First, does description equal causation?

Second, is the invoking of billions of theoretical and eternally undetectable other universes simply to give an atheistic explaination of our one tuned universe, more scientific or rational than believing in an Intelligent Fine Tuner?

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Correction @5,
A simple *psychological* assessment....
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eintown:
Science follows methodological naturalism, so to invoke a supernatural designer falls out of the scope of the philosophy of science.
Sure. I agree 100%. But so does multiverse theory. It is purely metaphysical, as it cannot be objectively studied. It ONLY exists to make atheism reasonable.
Also, the ‘multi-verse’ theory can be replaced with a more evidenced, naturalistic based reason for the fine-tuning of the universe.
And that is...?
So, to invoke a supernatural explanation is a little too hasty.
So how long should we wait for "science" to try to prove materialism before following the evidence where it actually leads (as Anthony Flew did), which is: Biological design (brilliance is a better word), cosmological fine-tuning, and the fact that anything exists at all point to a deity.uoflcard_{May 20, 2009
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Following my last statement, I believe whatever perceived flaws we see in the design of the universe speak louder than the perceived fine-tuning because the universe is indeed, fine tuned. A simple physiological assessment of taking what you have for granted.PaulN_{May 20, 2009
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Nakashima,
What does “does description equal causation” mean?
I don't think it's a stretch to assume that she's asking if theoretical explanations of how something could have happened are equal to how something did happen. For example (theoretically)I could come up with a complex and incredibly intricate explanation, including mathematical diagrams and program simulations to show how you could possibly get a Jeep Wrangler from millions of years of natural forces acting upon earth metals. But this does not indicate the true origin for said vehicle as far as everything we have observed in empirical reality.
A multiverse is not necessary to explain our universe if our universe is not fine tuned. Accepting the evidence for lack of fine tuning is another step along the path of the assumption of mediocracy.
But why intentionally take steps to assume mediocrity at the cost of ignoring all of the evidence that says otherwise?PaulN_{May 20, 2009
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Mrs O'Leary, What does "does description equal causation" mean? How would you apply the same question to the Book of Genesis? A multiverse is not necessary to explain our universe if our universe is not fine tuned. Accepting the evidence for lack of fine tuning is another step along the path of the assumption of mediocracy.Nakashima_{May 20, 2009
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Are we predestined to follow the same arguments that follow the original review?Latemarch_{May 20, 2009
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Why would description equal causation? Science follows methodological naturalism, so to invoke a supernatural designer falls out of the scope of the philosophy of science. Also, the 'multi-verse' theory can be replaced with a more evidenced, naturalistic based reason for the fine-tuning of the universe. So, to invoke a supernatural explanation is a little too hasty.eintown_{May 20, 2009
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