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On recent Sundays, we’ve been pointing to discussions of the rise of the Religious Nones (people who say they have no religion) – and what that means and doesn’t mean. (Here and here, for example).

It doesn’t mean that former theists have become atheists or even that they are likely to. The driving factor is the collapse of mainline Protestantism, leaving people who are vaguely theist without a religious identity. Many questions lie beyond that change but first, a note about identity…

The Catholic Church is in big trouble too. But the nature of the problem is a bit different. “Catholic” is a multigenerational identity. People can think of themselves as Catholic even if no one since their grandparents’ day has ever been to mass. Put another way: They don’t think they’re atheists (that’s scary). They just continue to say they are Catholic—even if they can’t recite the Lord’s Prayer. No one challenges them on the point. Why bother? One suspects it’s roughly similar with Islam in the Middle East.

By contrast, let’s say that no one in your family has darkened the door of a mainline liberal church since your grandmother did, occasonally, in the 1960s. You probably won’t think of yourself as a member. Truth be told, such a church never had much impact on the culture around it. In recent decades, it probably became largely indistinguishable from the surrounding culture from which it got all its ideas. Its disappearance would have little cultural impact.

The rise of the Nones does mean something important, however: Those who care about the Big Questions are more visibly polarized:

Consider, for example, the percentage of Americans who report that their religious affiliation is “Strong.” This percentage has fluctuated a bit over the decades, but the most recent survey puts it at 34 percent, a number that has remained basically unchanged since 1975, when 35 percent of Americans reported a strong religious affiliation. Apparently, the rise of the Nones is not attributable to a decline in religious enthusiasm among the most strongly committed.

By contrast, the decline in the percentage of Americans who say their religious affiliation is only “Somewhat strong” appears steadier, particularly in recent years. In 2006, about 12 percent of Americans told the GSS surveyors that their affiliation was “Somewhat Strong.” In the most recent survey, that percentage has fallen to only 4 percent. That is a significant drop… Confirmation bias is always a problem when one looks at data like this. Still, the 2018 report suggests that Americans are becoming deeply divided in our attitudes toward religion, a subject about which I’ve written elsewhere. Mark Movsesian, “The Devout and the Nones” at First Things

Movsesian goes on to explain that the divide leaves a deeper mark now on American politics, with Religious Nones being the largest group in the Democratic Party (30%) and 70% of declared Republicans believing in the “God of the Bible.” The “religious left,” incidentally, now seems to be largely an artifact of thinkmags, although it was an important force decades ago.

Visible polarization enables issues to become more politicized than they otherwise could be.

Whatever happens with science issues as a result won’t be dull.

See also: Researchers: Rise In “Religious Nones” Masks Growth In Evangelicalism

and

For The First Time, “No Religion” Is The Most Popular Choice For Americans

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The increasing polarization in society is what alarms me because it seems to be spreading across all human societies. It makes me wonder if what we are seeing is some sort of nascent global social upheaval that is a consequence of the sheer size and complexity of human society, the appalling difficulties of governance and administration on this scale, the widening gap between government and the governed, the inevitable corruption that attends these situations and mass communications and social media that make money out of pandering to the prejudices and fears of their vast audiences. I have no idea how all this might turn out and it ma ybe my good fortune that I won't be around to witness what may happen,Seversky
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Thank you for the post I appreciate it. Just got home and read this and I do agree with BB and the homosexuality thing. And it was pretty much how you treat these people if you treat them like they’re monsters yeah they’re going to pull away and that’s not fair. There people like everybody else. And I do believe that that has had a huge impact on things as well. My sister is a lesbian but she is far more religious than me. The reason for this is the way our family confronted it and treated it. We were nonchalant when she came out said we already knew. She was expecting it to be some big huge thing like what the media had told her which everybody was going to hate her and we were going to ostracize her from the family. Really nobody cared. I can’t say that is how everybody else is treated but that’s what happened in my family and she remained very close to us and ended up being hyper religious. the difference it makes to show a little kindness and mercy just because changed a whole lot of thingsAaronS1978
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Strangely, I find myself agreeing with much That Brian and Aaron write here! Basically, in the past fifty years or so, church attendance has gone from the societal norm to a personal and largely private activity. Meanwhile, being an agnostic or a gentle atheist has gone from being suspicious to being cool in the broader society -- essentially the expected secular norm now, unless one is running for President. I lay the blame (or credit if you prefer) for this squarely on the mainstream media, which has always been focused on the transgressive, novel and unorthodox. In recent years, they have become more so, jettisoning any semblance of respect for the church, and behaving accordingly. As the media has become less neutral and more biased, they are also becoming more openly anti-Christian and bolder in their biases and attacks. This, of course, plays into the polarization noted in the above title, and becoming more divided in North American society in general.Fasteddious
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The gist of BB's statement in post 1 is that people ought to think for themselves. The irony is that people thinking for themselves is exactly what the atheistic materialism of BB's Darwinian worldview excludes:
“The Astonishing Hypothesis is that “You,” your joys and your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your sense of personal identity and free will, are in fact no more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules. As Lewis Carroll’s Alice might have phrased: “You’re nothing but a pack of neurons.” This hypothesis is so alien to the ideas of most people today that it can truly be called astonishing.” Francis Crick – Astonishing Hypothesis: The Scientific Search for the Soul (p. 3) “Science provides clear-cut answers to all of the questions on the list: there is no free will, there is no mind distinct from the brain, there is no soul, no self, no person that supposedly inhabits your body, that endures over its life span, and that might even outlast it.” Alex Rosenberg – The Atheist’s Guide to Reality: Enjoying Life without Illusions – pg. 147 Darwin's Robots: When Evolutionary Materialists Admit that Their Own Worldview Fails - Nancy Pearcey - April 23, 2015 Excerpt: Even materialists often admit that, in practice, it is impossible for humans to live any other way. One philosopher jokes that if people deny free will, then when ordering at a restaurant they should say, "Just bring me whatever the laws of nature have determined I will get." An especially clear example is Galen Strawson, a philosopher who states with great bravado, "The impossibility of free will ... can be proved with complete certainty." Yet in an interview, Strawson admits that, in practice, no one accepts his deterministic view. "To be honest, I can't really accept it myself," he says. "I can't really live with this fact from day to day. Can you, really?",,, In What Science Offers the Humanities, Edward Slingerland, identifies himself as an unabashed materialist and reductionist. Slingerland argues that Darwinian materialism leads logically to the conclusion that humans are robots -- that our sense of having a will or self or consciousness is an illusion. Yet, he admits, it is an illusion we find impossible to shake. No one "can help acting like and at some level really feeling that he or she is free." We are "constitutionally incapable of experiencing ourselves and other conspecifics [humans] as robots." One section in his book is even titled "We Are Robots Designed Not to Believe That We Are Robots.",,, When I teach these concepts in the classroom, an example my students find especially poignant is Flesh and Machines by Rodney Brooks, professor emeritus at MIT. Brooks writes that a human being is nothing but a machine -- a "big bag of skin full of biomolecules" interacting by the laws of physics and chemistry. In ordinary life, of course, it is difficult to actually see people that way. But, he says, "When I look at my children, I can, when I force myself, ... see that they are machines." Is that how he treats them, though? Of course not: "That is not how I treat them.... I interact with them on an entirely different level. They have my unconditional love, the furthest one might be able to get from rational analysis." Certainly if what counts as "rational" is a materialist worldview in which humans are machines, then loving your children is irrational. It has no basis within Brooks's worldview. It sticks out of his box. How does he reconcile such a heart-wrenching cognitive dissonance? He doesn't. Brooks ends by saying, "I maintain two sets of inconsistent beliefs." He has given up on any attempt to reconcile his theory with his experience. He has abandoned all hope for a unified, logically consistent worldview. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/04/when_evolutiona095451.html
In fact, if BB were really a real person that could think for himself instead of just being a neuronal illusion with no free will, i.e. instead of being a "Darwinbot", then BB would reasonably conclude that his 'God given' brain is indeed God given and is certainly not the product of happenstance accidents:
The Human Brain Is 'Beyond Belief' by Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D. * - 2017 Excerpt: The human brain,, is an engineering marvel that evokes comments from researchers like “beyond anything they’d imagined, almost to the point of being beyond belief”1 and “a world we had never imagined.”2,,, Perfect Optimization The scientists found that at multiple hierarchical levels in the whole brain, nerve cell clusters (ganglion), and even at the individual cell level, the positioning of neural units achieved a goal that human engineers strive for but find difficult to achieve—the perfect minimizing of connection costs among all the system’s components.,,, Vast Computational Power Researchers discovered that a single synapse is like a computer’s microprocessor containing both memory-storage and information-processing features.,,, Just one synapse alone can contain about 1,000 molecular-scale microprocessor units acting in a quantum computing environment. An average healthy human brain contains some 200 billion nerve cells connected to one another through hundreds of trillions of synapses. To put this in perspective, one of the researchers revealed that the study’s results showed a single human brain has more information processing units than all the computers, routers, and Internet connections on Earth.1,,, Phenomenal Processing Speed the processing speed of the brain had been greatly underrated. In a new research study, scientists found the brain is 10 times more active than previously believed.6,7,,, The large number of dendritic spikes also means the brain has more than 100 times the computational capabilities than was previously believed.,,, Petabyte-Level Memory Capacity Our new measurements of the brain’s memory capacity increase conservative estimates by a factor of 10 to at least a petabyte, in the same ballpark as the World Wide Web.9,,, Optimal Energy Efficiency Stanford scientist who is helping develop computer brains for robots calculated that a computer processor functioning with the computational capacity of the human brain would require at least 10 megawatts to operate properly. This is comparable to the output of a small hydroelectric power plant. As amazing as it may seem, the human brain requires only about 10 watts to function.11 ,,, Multidimensional Processing It is as if the brain reacts to a stimulus by building then razing a tower of multi-dimensional blocks, starting with rods (1D), then planks (2D), then cubes (3D), and then more complex geometries with 4D, 5D, etc. The progression of activity through the brain resembles a multi-dimensional sandcastle that materializes out of the sand and then disintegrates.13 He also said: We found a world that we had never imagined. There are tens of millions of these objects even in a small speck of the brain, up through seven dimensions. In some networks, we even found structures with up to eleven dimensions.13,,, Biophoton Brain Communication Neurons contain many light-sensitive molecules such as porphyrin rings, flavinic, pyridinic rings, lipid chromophores, and aromatic amino acids. Even the mitochondria machines that produce energy inside cells contain several different light-responsive molecules called chromophores. This research suggests that light channeled by filamentous cellular structures called microtubules plays an important role in helping to coordinate activities in different regions of the brain.,,, https://www.icr.org/article/10186
If anything ever screamed that it was created by God, the human brain is certainly it. But alas, according to BB's Darwinian worldview, he is not allowed to think for himself, and thus he is forced, by no will of his own, to believe the insane proposition that his 'beyond belief' brain is just an accident of Darwinian processes. Of course BB is not a neuronal illusion, and of course BB is free to believe whatever he wants. But the real reason that BB refuses to believe that God created his 'beyond belief' brain has nothing to do with the science at hand and everything to do with his apriori bias against God. In short, BB's reasons for excluding God from his life are not the result of logic and science but entirely the result of his preexisting emotional and psychiatric bias against God. Studies establish that the design inference is ‘knee jerk’ inference that is built into everyone, especially including atheists, and that atheists have to mentally work suppressing their “knee jerk” design inference!
Is Atheism a Delusion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ii-bsrHB0o Design Thinking Is Hardwired in the Human Brain. How Come? - October 17, 2012 Excerpt: "Even Professional Scientists Are Compelled to See Purpose in Nature, Psychologists Find." The article describes a test by Boston University's psychology department, in which researchers found that "despite years of scientific training, even professional chemists, geologists, and physicists from major universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Yale cannot escape a deep-seated belief that natural phenomena exist for a purpose" ,,, Most interesting, though, are the questions begged by this research. One is whether it is even possible to purge teleology from explanation. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/10/design_thinking065381.html Richard Dawkins take heed: Even atheists instinctively believe in a creator says study - Mary Papenfuss - June 12, 2015 Excerpt: Three studies at Boston University found that even among atheists, the "knee jerk" reaction to natural phenomenon is the belief that they're purposefully designed by some intelligence, according to a report on the research in Cognition entitled the "Divided Mind of a disbeliever." The findings "suggest that there is a deeply rooted natural tendency to view nature as designed," writes a research team led by Elisa Järnefelt of Newman University. They also provide evidence that, in the researchers' words, "religious non-belief is cognitively effortful." Researchers attempted to plug into the automatic or "default" human brain by showing subjects images of natural landscapes and things made by human beings, then requiring lightning-fast responses to the question on whether "any being purposefully made the thing in the picture," notes Pacific-Standard. "Religious participants' baseline tendency to endorse nature as purposefully created was higher" than that of atheists, the study found. But non-religious participants "increasingly defaulted to understanding natural phenomena as purposefully made" when "they did not have time to censor their thinking," wrote the researchers. The results suggest that "the tendency to construe both living and non-living nature as intentionally made derives from automatic cognitive processes, not just practised explicit beliefs," the report concluded. The results were similar even among subjects from Finland, where atheism is not a controversial issue as it can be in the US. "Design-based intuitions run deep," the researchers conclude, "persisting even in those with no explicit religious commitment and, indeed, even among those with an active aversion to them." http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/richard-dawkins-take-heed-even-atheists-instinctively-believe-creator-says-study-1505712
i.e. It is not that Atheists do not see purpose and/or Design in nature and biology, it is that Atheists, for whatever severely misguided reason, live in denial of the purpose and/or Design that they themselves see in nature. And yes, ‘denialism’ is considered a mental illness.
In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism - Wikipedia
Moreover, there is the sheer irrationality of atheists being very hostile towards a God whom they claim is merely a myth:
When Atheists Are Angry at God - 2011 Excerpt: I’ve never been angry at unicorns. It’s unlikely you’ve ever been angry at unicorns either.,, The one social group that takes exception to this rule is atheists. They claim to believe that God does not exist and yet, according to empirical studies, tend to be the people most angry at him. http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/01/when-atheists-are-angry-at-god
Yes the denial of design is not based on logic or science, but is indeed found to be based on preexisting emotional and psychiatric conditions and/or biases of atheists against God.bornagain77
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AaronS1978, I would agree that religion (or lack) are not linked to intelligence. The decline in attendance may be linked to the pedophilia scandals, but it is far more complicated than that as attendance at many denominational churches is also declining. The real scandal in the Catholic Church was not the pedophilia. Pedophikia amongsts priest is no higher than amongst other professions. The real scandal was the efforts put into covering up the incidents for decades, if not for centuries. But I think one of the other things driving people away from the church is their stance on homosexuality. As the negative social and career implications of being a known homosexual have significantly declined more and more people have discovered that they have friends and family members who are homosexual. And they see that these people are the same as they are, and not the deluded sick sinners that many churches tell them that they are.Brother Brian
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I wouldn’t say that it was because they’re making their own determinations. They’re a great deal of social media’s that had something to do with this including a lot of bad publicity that also happened as well and they correlate quite well together even to the point of a cause. As a Catholic I watched our religion crumble because of the scandal that happened and even though we have gone to great lengths to fix this in the past years (and I know some will disagree and bring mistakes that also have been corrected) we still have not been able to shake off the problem and the publicity of what happened. I’ve watched as our churches startto empty out and it has done nothing but get worse in recent years. Furthermore, The aggressive attacks on religion, many of which are strawman argument and splitting hairs, have a huge impact on the popularity of religion in general. In liberal media, Being religious is being associated with gun toting rednecks that are racist, hate women, and the gays! It is also associated with being dumb and has been so for quite some time. when this is beaten into your head every single day at a college will have an impact on whether or not you stay religious. Fun fact The first couple of international IQ tests that were done found that Singapore was one of the smartest countries in the world and also the poorest and most religious. However that is change since then and more and more intelligent people seem to be atheist now despite the fact that in our past very very intelligent and genius level people mostly we’re not atheist That seems to correlate with the idea that if you were intelligent you have to be fashionably atheist and this would definitely have an impact as it might convince individuals to disregard religion and become atheist because nobody wants to be considered stupid. This would increase numbers and show more people turning away from religion plus show a skewing in iq test. It’s not the intelligence that makes you an atheist it’s the fact that if you are intelligent you should be an atheist because believing in God is no different then believing in Santa Claus. Also is worth pointing out that many of the religious nones were religious at one point. As these surveys were taken year after year and there is not a sudden population growth that all happened to be religious nones that suddenly appeared. These people consist of many past generations and I’ve lived through all of these events and it would not surprise me with the advent of social media and the pressures presented by that, that this would be the real of the decline in religious. So there are many many factors that are contributing to the rise of religious nones, and as Bill Maher said In an interview on the daily show years ago “ We finally got that needle to move a little bit more towards us on both drugs and atheism” I think this was back in 2010, but there has been a very very strong push to make religious people look stupid and to undermine religious authority, With absolutely no real pushback from religious authorities especially when it comes to social media and other outlets. So here is a general picture of what I’ve gotten from media monsters like Maher and in the academia of ASU Who would want to actually be religious when religious Christianity is associated with murdering in the name of God, low intelligence, Bigotry, hating homosexuals, child molestation because all priest do this and only priests, hate speech, Donald trump, They are all Chauvinistic pigs and hate women, religious people believe in the magic man in the sky, And Catholics are stupid because they can go to confession and get all of their sins washed away just because they asked for forgiveness which also is not true this was a debate I had with a very angry feminist, anti science and believe in myths because of our low intelligence and instinct, the list goes on A funny story that I have about this Was an individual was writing His dissertation on how chauvinistic the Bible was starting with a quote of Ephesians 23, I was incredibly angry when he quoted it because he decided to disregard Ephesians 24, 25 and 26, Which talked directly to how the husband has to sacrifice himself for the wife, I called him out on it forced him to put it on the board, I said read the whole thing before you make comments and interpretations he pulled Ephesians 23 from his dissertation, After the teacher had told him “to the Chagrin of many feminists the Bible also has many quotes exonerating women and god acting like a mother hen.” But all of those things are things that I’ve encountered and I’ve watched have an impact I think the biggest driving factor is nobody wants to be considered stupid and being religious makes you stupid and Ignorant. And that is the argument most often levied against religious people by atheists and other social media outlets. Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins are very guilty of thatAaronS1978
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Isn’t it possible that the rise in nones is due to a rise in people making their own determination as to what the scriptures mean rather than relying on others to tell them? I would think that people using the brain given to them by God (according to most here) to interpret his “words” would be what God would want. Personally I think a decline in the “authority” of religion is a good thing for society. We have to justify and be accountable for our own prejudices rather than use church authority to justify them.Brother Brian
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