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Richard Weikart: Scientific racism is more virulent than religious racism

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Richard Weikart, author of Darwinian Racism: How Darwinism Influenced Hitler, Nazism, and White Nationalism, offers meticulous research on that score:

So, if the vast majority of scientists reject racism, one might conclude that scientific racism is no longer a problem. However, this ignores the elephant in the room.

What elephant? Well, how about examining the white nationalist scene today to see what they actually believe? To be sure, white nationalism is a fringe movement, albeit a vocal fringe. Nonetheless, how do they justify their racist ideology? While researching my book, Darwinian Racism, I examined the websites and publications of many neo-Nazi, white nationalist, and alt-right individuals and organizations. What I discovered was that most white nationalists and white supremacists today embrace a social Darwinist version of scientific racism and vehemently oppose Christianity…

Many white nationalists claim that Darwinism directly supports their ideology, because they think that races have evolved to different levels. They are convinced that races are pitted in a merciless struggle for existence. Their penchant for white supremacy is their bid to win the Darwinian struggle for existence.

Those doing battle against the religious roots of racism do often uncover vestiges of racism and this can be helpful. However, sometimes they seem to be letting the most flagrant proponents of racism off the hook. Could it be that they are uncomfortable recognizing that most white nationalists today are thoroughly secular and are inspired by Darwinism and science, rather than religion?

Richard Weikart, “Anti-Racists Often Ignore This Non-Religious Source of Racism” at Townhall (February 19, 2022)

To ask such a question is to answer it, of course. No official science sources do not want to recognize that current racism is largely Darwinian in character because then they’d have to critically examine the fundamental tenets of Darwinism.

You may also wish to read: E. O. Wilson and racism: The smoking gun is found. Some have dismissed the findings but others say they fit a pattern. From Schulson’s story: “I don’t really care that Wilson had racist ideas, because I know pretty much all of the people that I dealt with, when I was coming up through the science system, had racist ideas,” said [evolutionary biologist Joseph] Graves, who in 1988 became the first Black American to receive a Ph.D. in evolutionary biology. “Wilson was just one of many.” Oh.

hardly an easily supported position
Easily supported by the lack of examples. No one is supplying examples. There's my support.
does that mean that we should ignore all claims of racism?
Probably most of them. There is no widespread evidence for racism. Individual cases are actually a proof of this. By having to emphasize individual cases often hoaxes, one is admitting they are rare. People are actually leaning over backwards not to appear racist. I said there actually is real racism in the world and it is mostly by white liberals who cry racism when there isn't any. Why would they do that ? Two reasons: first, they believe people are ignorant and will believe anything repeated enough in the media even if there is no evidence for it. It's called the Big Lie. Second, white liberals have instituted policies that have been detrimental to poor people and are the main reason why certain groups of people remain poor. They then tell the poor people that racism is the cause of their poverty when it is their policies that are the cause. It is the same people who have lied to us about the virus. They are an insidious immoral bunch. jerry
:lol: Dave Chappelle on the Jussie Smollett When you have to fabricate a racial attack ...Imagine if policemen were brainwashed leftists ... Lieutenant Commander Data
So Jerry, even if I agreed that the US is the least racist country in the world, hardly an easily supported position, does that mean that we should ignore all claims of racism? Scamp
Unsupported claims are meaningless.
You just supported my claim. You are a meaningless example because you know nothing but the lack of contradictory evidence is support. By the way several people have written on this very topic and come to essentially the same conclusion. Racism was not a topic of discussion till the white liberals realized they had nothing to offer and flooded the media with articles claiming racism was a major problem with no evidence that it was. jerry
Jerry: Seems ironic I maintain American is least racist country in world. Prove me wrong. Surveys are meaningless.
I am the son of God. Prove me wrong. Unsupported claims are meaningless. Scamp
In 2011 Occupy Wall Street failed miserably. Then look what happened. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1133440945201061888.html The press immediately turned to articles on race as it was not an important issue at that time. So the left received the word, claim racism everywhere and denounce even if it’s a bogus issue. And the public responds to the press which is why the more educated one is the more likely you will be misinformed. The reason: educated people all have their favorite information sources but they are controlled by people with an agenda. Thus, the educated are very likely to see fake news/narratives and assume they are true. And the extreme irony is that it is people from Wall Street that are doing this. They control the press. jerry
Peter Robinson with one of our nation’s greats (Justice Thomas) in the presence of the statue of another great (Thomas Sowell), probably the world’s smartest man. https://twitter.com/uncknowledge/status/1491939977776623620 jerry
Seems ironic I maintain American is least racist country in world. Prove me wrong. Surveys are meaningless. They actually prove my point. Because they are notoriously wrong and use of them indicates there is no evidence. Hans Rosling showed the more educated you were the more uninformed you were. We have been through this before and none of the malcontents produced any evidence. Actually I believe white liberals are racist. They are the one who constantly look down on other people and assume they are inferior. jerry
U/D, no it was Ebony. kairosfocus
PPPS, remember, general adult suffrage in Britain was only achieved in the 1920's. It took that long for the legacy of property suffrage to be eliminated, as well as the ancient exclusion of women. The Universal Declaration of Rights, was after the shocking events of WW2, under impact of the notion of a nietzschean superman political messiah above law rescuing his favoured group from its oppressors and delivering a new Empire as once Julius Caesar had put the fatal blow in on the Roman Republic. Do not forget the disaster of Athenian Democracy through the peloponnesian war. kairosfocus
PPS: It seems I need to point out some actual scriptural, C1 teaching on race related subjects, which anticipated and corrects errors of prejudice:
Ac 17: 24 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man,3 25 nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything. 26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, 27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, 28 for “‘In him we live and move and have our being’;4 as even some of your own poets have said, “‘For we are indeed his offspring.’5 29 Being then God's offspring . . . Gal 3: 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith . . . . 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave7 nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. 1 Cor 7: 21 Were you a bondservant4 when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) 22 For he who was called in the Lord as a bondservant is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a bondservant of Christ. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants5 of men. 2 Cor 3: 17 Now the Lord4 is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
In the face of a deeply flawed civilisation, where anything the authorities perceived as uprising was subject to death, we find a teaching of equality, empowerment and freedom in Christ, by his Spirit. We are equal in creation, equal in Christ, equal in the Spirit, equal in the Abrahamic blessings of covenant through Christ as The Seed [singular] of Abraham. Therefore, socio-cultural and ethnic distinctions are radically relativised and the foundation for liberation through transformation and reformation was laid -- and not without effect: "Were you a bondservant when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) . . . You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants of men. " That includes, in words of Marcus Garvey written into song by Bob Marley, the chains of mental slavery, i.e. false and oppressive ideologies and teachings. Some of which disguise themselves as ideologies of liberation. So, yes, there is always a challenge that the natural state of civil government is lawless unaccountable oligarchy, power tends to corrupt. That is why every civilisation has much the same struggle with oppression by the powerful. Until a breakthrough several centuries ago, our only hope was to move to lawful oligarchy, as ruling classes were influenced to live by principles of justice. There just was not enough economic prosperity, stability and resilience for the masses to rise above subsistence to take up luxuries of liberal education so they could effectively participate in governance. That had been true since the prototype strongman Nimrod McCush set up hydraulic empire between the Rivers. But then, through printing, vernacular translation of the Bible, a wave of literacy, rise of coffee houses, newspapers and bills also pamphlets and widely circulated books [some banned], there was a transformation in lands shaped by gospel ethics' which, from The Lord's Prayer on, are inextricably intertwined with the gospel. This included agricultural transformation and industrial revolution. Not coincidentally, the first targets for reformation included freedom of conscience and expression [with the press as key amplifier], democratisation and moving the civil peace of justice to the core of politics [thus, due balance of God given rights, freedoms and duties], and the abolition of the kidnapping based slave trade then of chattel slavery. Attempts to write that out of history and consciousness fail. So, a sounder balance would reconsider our political spectrum, and would recognise the pivotal longstanding challenge of lawless oligarchy. Constitutional democracy under a culture of gospel ethics was the breakthrough opening set by the charter of freedom, the US DoI 1776. The success of the American experiment over the next century broke all the rhetoric and presumed knowledge as to why such could not work. Across C19 - 20, there was therefore first a breakthrough across English speaking peoples, then in aftermath of WW1, a first halting but ultimately global spread. At the same time we saw the consistently shocking ideological oligarchies that came from Jacobin style radical revolutions that as a key move were radically secularistic and highly ideological. Over the past century the butcher's bill has been over 100 millions. And the rise of mass slaugter of living posterity in the womb, similarly energised, adds 800+ million mounting at a million per week to the bill. So, it is time for a sobering rethink. Yes, Christendom had a very mixed history, iron and clay, good and bad, deep challenges to find a breakthrough -- and judging by hindsight is not well advised. That breakthrough happened, acknowledge it and think in light of its hard bought lessons. Lest the jacobins return us to their favoured reign of terror. And remember, the revolution eats its children. It is high time for rethinking. kairosfocus
Sc, a pointless survey on a topic likely to produce misleading results. Jerry is clearly using a rhetorical declaration to make a valid point: there has been a transformation of attitudes regarding race since the 1950's, leading by the early 1970's to big shifts I recall reading in Essence about Blacks in the Southern US. Fifty more years have passed since those days. Racism, save as agit prop focus, is manifestly a dead/dying issue. Never mind games played by culture form marxists cynically pretending to rewrite history such as project 1619. Vivid is right to have highlighted the ideological fallacy. And, going further, the issue rightly at top of the agenda right now is geostrategic failure. That has potentially catastrophic consequences and we had better wake up. KF PS: You full well know that Luther came along 1500 years too late to have foundational significance for the Christian Faith. kairosfocus
Jerry: Then why is the US now the least racist country in the history of mankind?
Based on what criteria? When I googled "least racist countries", this is what I found:
The Top 10 Least Racist Countries in the World in 2021 - Best Countries Report 1. Netherlands 2. Canada 3. New Zealand 4. Sweden 5. Denmark 6.6Finland 7. Switzerland 8. Norway 9. Belgium 10. Austria https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/least-racist-countries
US didn't even break the top ten. In fact, it came in 69th. Seems ironically appropriate. Scamp
Jerry: I believe Luther lived 500 years ago.
And Jesus lived 2,000 years ago. I fail to see your point. Scamp
Before one can know if a large group of people are racist, there is a fundamental need to know how it is actually defined, which has nothing with which race is in the majority. Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to all others. There are no exceptions or exclusions. Anyone who puts value in something as ridiculous as race can be a racist, which includes all the variations of pigmentation. Since race is based on belief of racial superiority, where is the American system supporting racial superiority of anyone. Anti-Semitism for most is not about race, but about hatred of Jewish people regardless of their pigmentation. There are Jewish people who come from places outside Europe who have no ancestry to a single European country. Ethiopian Jews, for example, with most being in Israel, but still some targeted for death by the government, trace their roots back to King Solomon. The Jews who used to live in Baghdad spent thousands of years living there, until they were forced out due to Nazi propaganda, which also impacted other parts of Arabia and northern Africa. As far as the Eugenicists were concerned, Jewish people were a lesser race, which included Woodrow Wilson, Franklyn Roosevelt and Hitler. Roosevelt did everything he could to keep as many Jews from reaching the safety of the United States who were fleeing the Nazi atrocities. No matter how bad things got, the quotas never changed under his administration. BobRyan
Then I’ve misunderstood you when you wrote
Part of what I am saying is hyperbole and part is sarcasm. As racism declines to almost zero in the US the left yells racism or racist at every turn. A large percentage of the people still believe that racism is a problem because the left and press are constantly saying it is so. But there is no evidence of it. This is one of the real disinformation programs in the US along with the disinformation on the virus. All from the left as they have no reason for anyone to want what they have to offer. It's possible to see the claims of racism rise after the Occupy Wall Street debacle led nowhere. So the cries of racism are just part of the left's disinformation program to gain an advantage. Unfortunately good people fall for it and a major issue in the US is something called CRT being taught in the schools. jerry
The favoritism against whites and Asians is not really racism but an adjustment to help other groups who are disadvantaged from circumstances other than racism.
Then I've misunderstood you when you wrote "Actually one can point to RACISM against whites and Asians." So racism is not really racism. Ok. Fascinating stuff. AndyClue
The last slave owner in the U.S. probably died sometime around 1960. I was born a little before then, so I was living at the same time an actual slave owner was alive. The last actual slave in the U.S. died in 1971, while I was in high school. Black people were persecuted severely in the U.S. and not just in the South. Setting aside all the extremist dialogue from neo-Marxists on CRT, the idea that we go from enslaving people to absolute racial justice in a few generations is not believable. Where I live in North east USA there is very serious, disturbing and evil racial prejudice from the elite class. Actually, it's closer to class prejudice and not just a hatred of people because of color of skin, but skin-color plays a big part in it. I find racism very widespread in America. At the same time, America has done a lot to get rid of that problem - and because of multi-culturalism, has been forced to solve it more than other countries. Is Israel a race-based society? The government does DNA testing to confer privileges on people and deny for other - so yes, it is. Is Israel therefore "racist" to do this? That's a tougher question since the country is not built on multi-culturalism but on trying to preserve ethnic/racial heritage. The same would be true in places like Japan where the nation's race is preserved as a characteristic of the country. People other ethnicities are denied privileges. Silver Asiatic
How did you compare it to other countries
If it’s zero, then who could be better? The favoritism against whites and Asians is not really racism but an adjustment to help other groups who are disadvantaged from circumstances other than racism. jerry
Start by assuming it’s zero.
Actually one can point to racism against whites and Asians.
So it's not zero? How did you compare it to other countries? AndyClue
How did you measure the racism of the US and other countries? Where’s the comparison
Start by assuming it’s zero. Show it’s not. Actually one can point to racism against whites and Asians. jerry
AndyClue @ 9 For starters, there is full access to everything in business and government for black people, including a former President of the United States and a current Associate Justice on the Supreme Court. Is there anything a black person cannot achieve in the United States? Where are the schools who deny entrance for black students at all levels of education? Where are the hospitals who refuse to treat people because they are black? Name the areas of business black people are prohibited from taking part in. The racists that exist in this country come in all colors. Racism is defined as the belief one race is superior to others. These people do not make up the majority of the country, but do seem to flock to the Democratic party, which is the reason there is thundering silence over racist comments made by President Biden, who started in the Senate as a segregationist. As for other countries, there is no Madam C.J. Walker outside the United States. She was the first in her family to be born free and first self-made female millionaire in the history of the world. Black people, thanks to capitalism in the United States, are able to achieve tremendous wealth. From business to music to entertainment, including sports, black people have no problems finding success. People who spend their money on their products or buy tickets to movies and games come from all walks of life. With the majority of people being white, it means white people have no problem spending their money on those goods and services. BobRyan
Then why is the US now the least racist country in the history of mankind?
How did you measure the racism of the US and other countries? Where's the comparison? AndyClue
Racism is an ethical problem. The unacknowledged marginalisaton of moral knowledge directly leads to opening up unchecked behaviours. And evolutionary naratives about race trace to Darwin. Descent of Man, ch 6. Mein Kampf is pervaded with darwinist rationales up to what the title suggests on struggle for existence, thus displacement of lesser breeds. kairosfocus
Religion gives us standards by which we can measure our behavior and correct things like racism and injustice towards people. Silver Asiatic
Seversky Religious racism exists, just like any other form of racism, because racism is a human problem.
:lol: Nope. This is called "projection" because you are ashamed by yourself. 1.If Adam and Eve are the parents of all people then all people are equal ,doesn't matter the quantity of melanin in the skin . No christian is racist. 2.If darwinian evolution is true then there are some people more evolved than others , some people are closer to apes while others are more evolved and different . All darwinists are racists.
Seversky there’s no reason to think they do any better now.
Then why is the US now the least racist country in the history of mankind?
If US were the least racist country then all people from around the world would want to come/to live in US but , as we see, nobody wants that . ;) All afro-americans intend to leave US and go back to their origin countries in Africa. Do you know that oppressed French actor Smoulliet ? :lol: Lieutenant Commander Data
there’s no reason to think they do any better now.
Then why is the US now the least racist country in the history of mankind? jerry
Religious beliefs do not immunize people against racist attitudes. They didn't 500 years ago and there's no reason to think they do any better now. Seversky
I believe Luther lived 500 years ago. jerry
Religious racism exists, just like any other form of racism, because racism is a human problem. Just read Martin Luther On The Jews And Their Lies if you want an extreme example. The seeds of it at least are in all of us. Until we all accept that, it won't be going away any time soon. Seversky
Religious racism hardly exists, at least in the biggest faiths. Islam and Christianity were universalist from the start, explicitly aiming to convert all colors and nations. Both continue to be universalist and both are growing fastest in Africa. Oriental tradition is different because the Emperor of the Nation is traditionally considered to be a god. The religion and the ethnicity are the same thing. polistra

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