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Rights. Real Things or Soothing Noises?

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A friend writes on Facebook:

“Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” and “with liberty and justice for all” still seem like pretty good concepts to build a country around. Lets start living it. Happy 4th everyone!

To which I responded that I agree wholeheartedly. But I would add that both of the quotations have context that is essential. Where do the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come from? Men are “endowed by their creator” with those rights. And we are a nation “under God,” with liberty and justice for all.

All politics is downstream from culture. Culture is downstream from shared views about fundamental metaphysical ideas. And ideas about the existence of God are the most fundamental of all. Richard Dawkins, the world’s most famous atheist, says: “The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”

Dawkins is wrong about that. The universe we observe is full of evil. But evil can exist only if good — of which evil is the privation — also exists. And good can exist only if God exists. I have spent decades debating these issues. Today, I am more firmly convinced than ever that our rights are secure only if they rest on a foundation of God’s existence. For if God does not exist, Dawkins is surely right and all of this rights talk amounts to nothing but soothing noises one animal makes to another.

Some might respond: We can have good without God. Of course, that depends on what you mean by “good.” If “good” means only “that which at a given point in time a particular society calls good,” then a 21st century liberal democracy is “good.” But so is a 15th century Aztec society that captured, enslaved, and ritually sacrificed members of other tribes. We can call Aztec human sacrifice evil and the principles of the Declaration good in any meaningful sense of those words only if there is an objective standard of measure by which to judge between the two. And that standard exists only if a God who has endowed His image bearers with certain inalienable rights exists.

And thankfully He does. As Sam said, happy 4th!

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Seversky @3: 1. What do you mean by "good and evil"? What's that? 2. You wrote: "if we want to minimize evil and maximize good we should look to ourselves" Can you explain what you mean by that? Can you provide an example for illustration? Please, note that it doesn't make sense to comment on item #2 until the questions at item #1 get answered satisfactorily.jawa
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Sev "good and evil are not properties of the universe as a whole" You don't seem to understand what Dawkins said.Barry Arrington
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“Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” and “with liberty and justice for all” still seem like pretty good concepts to build a country around. Lets start living it. Happy 4th everyone!
I think we can all agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment. It's the living up to that ideal that seems to be the problem. Not surprisingly, I agree with Dawkins that good and evil are not properties of the universe as a whole but they do describe how humans behave towards one another, so if we want to minimize evil and maximize good we should look to ourselves. In that, is our position so far from that of Christianity - at least the Christianity in which I was raised - which also enjoins us to take responsibility for the way we treat others?Seversky
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This has been quoted before but I think it's worth repeating it now. Here's part of the address Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn gave on the occasion of his acceptance, in London on May 10, 1983, of the Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion:
More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/aleksandr-solzhenitsyn-men-have-forgotten-god-speech/jawa
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Barry, Agree. But it must all be according to the absolute definitions and under the absolute conditions established by God, otherwise it doesn't work. In the Eden humans had life, liberty, the conditions for happiness and justice. The whole package. All given freely. But what did we do with all that unimaginable treasure? We trashed it. Miserably dumped it. Oh, no! Whats' wrong with us? We preferred Paul Anka's song "my way" and John Lennon's "imagine" instead of profound worship hymns that praise our gracious Creator. Can''t complain and whine now. Let's repent and fall on our faces at His feet and accept His eternal pardon, graciously offered through the resurrected Christ. Praise Adonai!PaoloV
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