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Here is an example:

Barry to Popperian:

Anyone who cannot unambiguously condemn the practice of chopping little boys and girls up and selling the pieces like so much meat shares in the evil of those who do so.

Popperian responds:

Note how Barry is making my point for me. I wrote:

From time to time, old words become obsolete. For an non-essentialist this is not a problem. This is because non-essentialists view words as a tool, not a Thing with a capital T. If any word ceases to function as a tool, a non-essentialists will quickly let it go and find some other new tool to solve problems with. On the other hand, an essentialist will not do this. Why not? Because, for the essentialist, all words correspond with Things with a capital T. And Things do not just disappear. Because of this view, an essentialist is significantly less likely to change their opinion of anything, if at all.

However, an essentialist is sure that some Thing actually corresponds with his words. As such, he will try to figure out why a non-essentialist won’t admit there really is such a Thing as the Thing he is talking about. The essentialist might merely think the non-essentialist is merely ignorant, or that their intellect is on the fritz. Or he might even decide you are down right evil. But the essentialist certainly won’t agree the Thing he refers to with his word can be so quickly dismissed.

(emphasis in original)

Let’s examine this. It is 1943 and I say:

Anyone who cannot unambiguously condemn the practice of cooking Jews in ovens like so much meat shares in the evil of those who do so.

What would you think of someone who gave Popperian’s response? You would think they agree with the goals of the Holocaust and therefore share in the guilt of that unspeakable evil. And you would be right.

So yes, Popperian, I do say you are down right evil.

Popperian thinks he is oh-so-sophisticated. “Words are so ambiguous; I can’t possibly condemn the killers.” Meanwhile the slaughter of innocents continues unabated.

Damn your pseudo-sophisticated sophistry Popperian. It is counterproductive to dignify it by getting into the weeds and countering your logical fallacies point by point. Instead, like Dr. Johnson and his famous rock kicking demonstration, I refute your moral theorizing thusly:

Does your moral theory compel you unambiguously to condemn the practice of chopping little boys and girls up and selling the pieces like so much meat?

No? Then your moral theory is as worthless as a fresh steaming pile of dog feces.

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Do you think PZ Meyers will be interested in my new baby-q sauce?Mung
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Allowing choices promotes humane society. To kill unborn baby is a choice. Killing unborn babies promotes humane society. Is this logic liberals use? They were  crying about Cecil the lion for weeks but not a word about unbelievable massacre of the innocents.Eugen
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The post in which Popperian spewed his linguistic sophistry into the combox was entitled:
How Materialists Mutilate Language in the Service of Mutilating People
Am I the only one who sees the irony?Barry Arrington
August 27, 2015
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SA @ 7: Good point. He also needs to explain whether my words refer to real knives doing a real thing called "chopping" on real boys and real girls and then doing a real thing called "selling" of real pieces of real boys and real girls like so much real meat. Or is all of that an illusion?Barry Arrington
August 27, 2015
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bFast - he says we cannot know that any real things exist because our senses are electronic impulses that don't actually receive information from objects. So, we create words but the words don't actually refer to anything real. So, I guess the gas chambers were an illusion. He'd have to explain that part.Silver Asiatic
August 27, 2015
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I'm sorry, but reading through Popperian's gobbledigook left me wondering what words he is complaining about. I haven't carefully followed what Popperian's views are in other threads. Which words does Popperian see as too stuck to real things?bFast
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I still want to know what's at stake for Popperian in this, that he continues to get on the interweb and make an obvious fool of himself? Andrewasauber
August 27, 2015
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When I think of the evil wanton slaughter that Popperian's muddled philosophy enables, this quotation comes to mind as if the little boys and girls were speaking:
and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
Barry Arrington
August 27, 2015
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BA: Some words and statements do denote real things, i.e. when one asserts such, one accurately describes reality. The issue is, is there a moral reality to be described, in whatever language? And, is it in particular true that our sense of being bound by OUGHT describes a genuine duty above and beyond a perception? If not, how then can one escape the conclusion that we are subjects of general delusion? With, subsequent collapse of rationality itself. If OUGHT is real (and the case of holocaust on the table and the ghost of the kidnapped, sexually assaulted, murdered child I sometimes speak of are patent cases in point) then there is a world-root IS capable of bearing its weight. For which, there is one serious candidate. There is much more at stake here than many are wont to acknowledge. KFkairosfocus
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Damn your pseudo-sophisticated sophistry Popperian.
You're right to call it evil. It's manipulative - and just another way to tell a lie. "They will never love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate." -- Edmund BurkeSilver Asiatic
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Postmodernist, deconstructivist madness.William J Murray
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