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Stephen Hawking Should Visit Elfland

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Some people say that Stephen Hawking is the smartest man in the world, and doubtless he is a brilliant physicist. But when it comes to metaphysics he has said some silly things. Consider his famous universe-from-nothing quote: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.”

Read that statement again. It is gobsmackingly stupid. First, as we have discussed before, the statement “because there is something the universe can create itself from nothing” is self-referentially incoherent.

But more importantly consider this. The statement appears to confer causal agency on “gravity.’ But what is gravity? It is a “law” of nature. What is a law of nature? It is an observed regularity that has been modeled mathematically. Last time I looked, observed regularities do not cause things to happen. They are descriptions of what happened, not explanations of how it happened. And what is the source of the mathematically modeled observed regularity that we call gravity? We have no idea*

Why does water flow downhill? It does no good to say that “gravity” makes it run downhill. Gravity is not a causal agent. It is an observed regularity. Saying that gravity makes water rundown hill is the same as saying “every time we looked water ran downhill and that is why water runs downhill,” which, of course, is no explanation at all.

Chesterton knew better:

All the terms used in the science books, ‘law,’ ‘necessity,’ ‘order,’ ‘tendency,’ and so on, are really unintellectual, because they assume an inner synthesis, which we do not possess. The only words that ever satisfied me as describing Nature are the terms used in the fairy books, ‘charm,’ ‘spell,’ ‘enchantment.’ They express the arbitrariness of the fact and its mystery. A tree grows fruit because it is a MAGIC tree. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched.

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*Actually, we have a pretty good idea. I mean scientists doing science have no idea.

UPDATE: In a comment Tim unpacked some of this issue nicely:

I am somewhat familiar with the text from which Chesterton was quoted and find it unfortunate that following recent OPs concerning evidence that our critics haven’t taken a closer look at what Chesterton wrote.

Consider the Ethics of Elfland (Chapter 4 of Orthodoxy) and you will discover that upon closer inspection of Chesterton’s thought, one might claim that he himself was a “mountain of evidence”, a claim that I think he would happily and fullheartedly support.

It always seems to go this way: the closer we look two claims like these, Hawking’s and Chesterton’s, they at first glance (and I do mean the most cursory of glances) seem to favor Hawking. You know, gravity is scientific, the universe is scientific, causes, effects. . .
We can have nothing of the word bewitched and cast it off as an Edwardian relic. As the scrutiny becomes more focused, though, we see that it is the “unscientific journalist” who is making sense.

Critics say that Chesterton was too prolific to be called a great writer, but this is wholly unfair, especially when we see all that he has to put forth and set in context in such a short space. I implore the doubtful reader to explore The Maniac, The Suicide of Thought and The Ethics of Elfland (Chapters 2, 3 and 4) to see the greatness of his thought (and his writing as well). Chesterton was referencing the thought of McCabe, a materialist, but as with all great and timeless writing it persists today for Hawking:

He understands everything, and everything does not seem worth understanding. His cosmos may be complete in every rivet and cog-wheel, but still his cosmos is smaller than our world.

One last note on Chesterton, I am currently making some notes on Orthodoxy, and just for fun began challenging myself to find at least one sentence or phrase per paragraph that was worthy of underlining; it is a happy little excursion and, with a bit of humor and latitude, easy to find a most suitable candidate sentence in practically every one. Ok, try THAT for any other writer!

Materialists! Tell us about the workings of the “inner synthesis”, was GKC blowing smoke? or was he simply and plainly correct? And . . . game over.

Comments
Hawking is saying In the beginning a Law such as gravity created the heavens and the earth. Shouldn't THAT Law, such as it is, have a special designation? A Law that is responsible for the emergence of all other laws? Maybe we can call it the Hawking Law? "Sorry for the inconvenience" Law? "God Law". Oh wait, already made THAT mistake with the God Particle.ppolish
March 28, 2015
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So a natural law owes its existence to some human theorem? Please.
Presumably the universe obeys some regularities, and you might call these (ontic) laws. But we are only human, so we can't be sure if any regularity we observe is really the way the universe runs, or if we have just found an approximation, an epistemic law, if you will. It's not clear to me if you think a 'natural law' is epistemic or ontic, i.e. if it's a description of how we think the universe works (epistemic), or how the universe actually works (ontic).Bob O'H
March 28, 2015
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The law of gravity (which depends on conservation laws) is not a natural law?
Newton's law of universal gravitation is a classical approximation of gravity as understood under general relativity (which, by the way, is not the ultimate physical model either). It's an excellent approximation, and it works for most human purposes, but it fails to account for Mercury's orbit, and our GPS-based satnav systems would be useless if we mistook this approximation for reality. I should think a real "natural law" would not have a limited scope.Piotr
March 28, 2015
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“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.” says Hawking in the OP. Why does he say "such as"? Seems a bit disingenuous.ppolish
March 28, 2015
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Wow. So let me get this straight. The law of gravity (which depends on conservation laws) is not a natural law? Humans invented gravity and conservation principles? Did humans pull them out of their asteroid orifices? LOL.Mapou
March 28, 2015
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So a natural law owes its existence to some human theorem?
Conservation of energy is not "a natural law" but a human-formulated construct, just like Noether's theorem. Energy is a concept invented by humans in their attempts to describe reality in formal terms.Piotr
March 28, 2015
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Piotr:
Conservation of energy is not derived from some “first principles” but is a mathematical consequence of Noether’s theorem
So a natural law owes its existence to some human theorem? Please. The truth is that the energy conservation principle is a direct consequence of an ex-nihilo universe: The total energy of the universe is zero. The conservation of nothing/zero is the mother of all conservation principles. It is the reason that the universe is yin-yang symmetric: everything comes in complementary/opposite pairs. In fact, motion/change is always the result of nature correcting one or more violations to that principle. Universal balance is the key and is also the reason that the universe is nonlocal. The idea that the conservation of energy principle does not hold at cosmological scales is silly, IMO.Mapou
March 28, 2015
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#19, #23 Box, Conservation of energy is not derived from some "first principles" but is a mathematical consequence of Noether's theorem (the invariance of the laws of physics under the symmetry of time translations). If time translations are not globally symmetrical (and they aren't in an expanding universe), energy is not conserved globally. In non-cosmological scales (or in the static flat-spacetime model of special relativity) the classical law of conservation of energy may be regarded as strictly obeyed, but "cosmological" corrections are necessary if you want to apply it to the entire universe.Piotr
March 28, 2015
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If anyone believes that SH is unbiased and would be open to the idea of there being a God they are bring fooled. It is the driving force behind virtually all atheism (whereas those who are less so opposed are often agnostic). Of course many people are theist because they want there to be a God and an afterlife but that does not mean that the converse is not true. The fact that SH and others constantly say why there does not need to be a God and hold strictly to beliefs that require a LOT of faith (spontaneous SELF-creation from nothing) shows they have already made their mind up. How can everything that is contingent self-create?Dr JDD
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Mark Frank, formally you are correct, but I cannot come up with another reason as to why “spontaneous self-creation from nothing” would appeal to anyone’s sense of logic. Can you?
I haven't yet read the book that this came from, but I think that when he says things like this that he's referring to chaotic inflation and M-theory. I don't really like such statements myself as I think it's mostly an attempt to create headlines and leads to a lot of misunderstandings (and is easily quoted out of context).goodusername
March 28, 2015
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Anybody who believes that an effect can exist without a cause is also gobsmackingly stupid. LOL.Mapou
March 28, 2015
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#21 SteRusJon That's a different issue. Barry was accusing SH of proposing that the law of gravity was the cause of the creation of the universe when the law is not the kind of thing the causes anything. I pointed out the SH never did assert that the law of gravity was the cause of anything. Separately from that is the question of whether the creation of the universe must have a cause at all. I don't think it need have a cause. I imagine SH agrees. This has been debated endlessly here and I don't think it is a good idea to start it again.Mark Frank
March 28, 2015
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Mark Frank:
The main point of SH’s quote is that spontaneous self-creation can/does conform to the laws of nature. You may disagree with him but given his reputation I think you should do more than assert he is gobsmackingly stupid and obviously wrong.
Hawking is gobsmackingly stupid and obviously wrong. Anybody who believes that physical laws predate the universe is stupid. Anybody who believes that Einstein's theory of relativity allows time travel is gobsmackingly stupid. Hawking's latest pronouncements about the danger posed by future intelligent machines revolting against humanity is yet another example of his stupidity. Why do people even listen to that little con artist? What has he done for humanity besides creating a bunch of Star-Trek, chicken-feather-voodoo physics?Mapou
March 28, 2015
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IMO, there is nothing wrong with the physical universe being created from nothing. In fact, an ex-nihilo universe is the only ontology of substance that does not lead to an infinite regress. What is wrong is wanting the universe to create itself before it exists. Nothing can create itself. Besides, the law of gravity and other physical laws cannot exist without a physical universe. Hawkins should keep his mouth shut, IMO. His pronouncements are no better than Aristotle's explanation of why an arrow stays in motion after leaving the bow. Educated silly men speaking from ignorance.Mapou
March 28, 2015
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Mark Frank #25, it just hit me, a moment of sheer unexplained inspiration ... THE solution to the OOL question and all evolution questions: "NEGATIVE_INFORMATION" which balances the positive information that we find in life. Wadduyouthink?Box
March 28, 2015
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It doesn’t take a world class cosmologist to understand that when a universe spontaneously self-creates from nothing in Hawking’s backyard it will raise a few eyebrows at the ‘conservation-of-energy-department’
I believe the idea is that there is such a thing as negative energy which balances the positive energy which means the universe has zero energy. This stuff is not easy!Mark Frank
March 28, 2015
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"Not being a world class cosmologist I don’t understand how the laws apply under the extreme conditions of the birth of the universe." Don't fret Mark, World class cosmologists are also a lot more confused than you. Confused and perplexed at a level way over your head:)ppolish
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Mark Frank: Not being a world class cosmologist I don’t understand how the laws apply under the extreme conditions of the birth of the universe.
It doesn't take a world class cosmologist to understand that when a universe spontaneously self-creates from nothing in Hawking's backyard it will raise a few eyebrows at the 'conservation-of-energy-department'.Box
March 28, 2015
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Mark Frank:
The main point of SH’s quote is that spontaneous self-creation can/does conform to the laws of nature.
And he sez that those laws "just are (the way they are)"- all science so far! When Hawking comes up with a method to test his ideas science and people will listen. Until then his ideas are as good as his soccer skills.Joe
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Mark,
When a gun fires there is a recoil because of Newton’s third law.
That statement, although in similar form to the one in which Hawking declares that “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.”, it is vastly different in content. A gun packed with powder has an innate potential to cause a recoil. Real nothing does not have the potential to cause anything whatsoever. It matters not what law you invoke, gravitational or otherwise. That is what makes his statement so gobsmackingly stupid for such a supposedly bright mind. Defending such antics is godsmackingly stupid, as well. StephenSteRusJon
March 28, 2015
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#19 Box Not being a world class cosmologist I don't understand how the laws apply under the extreme conditions of the birth of the universe. I imagine that SH is aware of high school physics laws.Mark Frank
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Mark Frank: The main point of SH’s quote is that spontaneous self-creation can/does conform to the laws of nature.
Would you be so kind to name a few laws of nature that conform with the spontaneous self-creation of the universe? In case you wish to put forward e.g. the law of conservation of energy, would you care to explain how it conforms with creation ex nihilo?Box
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Box
Mark Frank, it is utterly obvious that there is neither evidence nor arguments for any “spontaneous self-creation from nothing”. Do you wish to dispute this?
Yes. I dispute it. The main point of SH’s quote is that spontaneous self-creation can/does conform to the laws of nature. You may disagree with him but given his reputation I think you should do more than assert he is gobsmackingly stupid and obviously wrong.  Mark Frank
March 28, 2015
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Barry   He wrote “A because of B”. It does not follow from this that B caused A.  It means – “in the light of B it is possible that A”. Another example might be:   When a gun fires there is a recoil because of Newton’s third law.   That doesn’t mean Newton’s law caused the recoil. It just means that it conforms to Newton’s law. In a similar way SH is saying that spontaneous creation from nothing would conform to laws such as gravity. You may disagree with the reasons he gives for this. However, your attempt to dismiss it as “gobsmackingly stupid” because it confers causal agency on the law of gravity fails. I am more interested in your reaction to what he wrote. You know he is  one of the finest minds of our generation and that he is writing about something that he has thought about and worked on for years. When you come across something that appears to you to be obviously wrong don’t you think it might just be worth treating it as a challenging paradox which needs understanding before dismissing it as “gobsmackingly stupid”?Mark Frank
March 28, 2015
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Mark Frank, it is utterly obvious that there is neither evidence nor arguments for any "spontaneous self-creation from nothing". Do you wish to dispute this? So the question arises, what drives anyone with average intelligence to say such gobsmackingly stupid things? I hypothesize an intense want for God not to be there. - - BTW the irony:
Hawking: this book is rooted in the concept of scientific determinism which implies … that there are no miracles, or exceptions to the laws of nature.
Yeah, and surely a universe's spontaneous self-creation from nothing is no obvious exception to the laws of nature ...Box
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Why do materialists like Hawking think they can get their gravity for free?Barry Arrington
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Mark, nice snark. But that is exactly what the man is saying. I would, however, be interested to read your alternative universe version where he means something other than the plain meaning of his words.Barry Arrington
March 28, 2015
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Box What do you mean by a "sense of logic"? I think for SH it is quite enough to think that if the arguments and evidence suggest that X is true then that is good enough reason to believe X. He needs no other motivation - such as wanting X to be true.Mark Frank
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Mark Frank, formally you are correct, but I cannot come up with another reason as to why "spontaneous self-creation from nothing" would appeal to anyone's sense of logic. Can you?Box
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Box It may well be true that SH doesn't want there to be a God (although why anyone should want that I can't think). However, it is not in the sentences you quote which say nothing about what he wants and might equally be the reluctant conclusion of a would-be theist.Mark Frank
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