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Teaching ID = A crime against humanity

William Dembski
June 25, 2007
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Last week I reported on the Council of Europe denouncing ID as a threat to democracy (go here). I also asked how long it would be before advocating ID in Europe would be regarded as a hate-crime. We may have to wait no longer:

Secularist Europe Silences Pro-Lifers and Creationists
From the desk of Paul Belien on Sat, 2007-06-23 18:53

Last week, a German court sentenced a 55-year old Lutheran pastor to one year in jail for “Volksverhetzung” (incitement of the people) because he compared the killing of the unborn in contemporary Germany to the holocaust. Next week, the Council of Europe is going to vote on a resolution imposing Darwinism as Europe’s official ideology. The European governments are asked to fight the expression of creationist opinions, such as young earth and intelligent design theories. According to the Council of Europe these theories are “undemocratic” and “a threat to human rights.” . . .

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Have hou noticed the following phrase in the link provided vy Anderson? "Deputies said the motion by the Christian Democratic group of parliamentarians also won support from east European deputies, who recalled that Darwinian evolution was a favorite theory of their former communist rulers." People who did experiment a real dictatorship actually know what is the ideology that goes against human rights!kairos
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http://www.rfmedia.org/RF_audio_video/Other_clips/Thoughts-on-Sam-Harris-claims.mp3 On the above interview with William Lane Craig, he said that in Britain his lecures and debates about God are getting immense interest. The Scottish pastor commented that Britain is now almost a pre-Christian culture. Secularism has been around for so long that Christianity is now something new and interesting.eddiehaskell
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This would definitely put the fear of God into them then :-) http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/5138Robo
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Use of the terms "Darwin-possessed" and "Darwin ghost" is now freely available for free.MatthewTan
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"Darwin-possessed" ideologues in a world possessed by the Darwin-ghost. © Copyright June 2007 -- I am coining new words for the world possessed by the Darwin-ghost. President George W. Bush is a threat to human rights and democracy?! (in Europe, not Iraq) -- According to the logic of the Council of Europe. Why? he is anti-abortion; he supports the teaching of intelligent design; he is Religious Right. What next? if you say homosexual act is sinful; contraception is abortion; euthanasia is killing... Same logic applies. And if you are not the President of US, you can be sent to jail! This is the world of Darwinism dominated by Darwin-possessed idealogues. "The American President George W. Bush supports the principle of teaching both intelligent design and the theory of evolution." Lutheran pastor sent to one-year jail by German courts for comparing abortion to the holocaust. Welcome to the world possessed by the Darwin-ghost!MatthewTan
June 25, 2007
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I take no consolation in considering the inevitable demise of atheist Europe when I consider that it will be replaced by a Muslim Europe that will be, ironically, ID-friendly.rswood
June 25, 2007
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It must have actually hurt mentally to rationalize ID as “undemocratic” and a “threat to human rights.” After all, it wasn’t ID that spawned eugenics programs. Not to mention the American Founders who all believed in Providence, the Architect, ID and so on while rejecting Chance and Chaos. Despite all their differences the Founders all believed in ultimate Reason and Natural Law. That's the only way that "E Pluribus Unum" works, naturally enough.mynym
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Atheistic Europe is pretty much down the tubes. Holland now has a legal pedophile political party. Eurabia is at the door and they still don't see it coming. "these theories are “undemocratic” and “a threat to human rights.”" Funny thing considering that all of Europe's progress and human rights advances were based on Judeo/Christian values. It was creationists that developed the 'scientific method' - Bishop Robert Grosseteste 13th century. Newton was a creationist - so his theories must be undemocratic and “a threat to human rights.” As well as those of Wernher von Braun, Dr. AE Wilder-Smith, George Wald - 1967 Nobel Laureate in Medicine, Michael Faraday, James Joule, William Thompson a.k.a. Lord Kelvin, Johannes Kepler, James Clerk Maxwell, George Boole (boolean logic) and several hundreds of other famous scientists. Most of the great discoveries in science from Europe were found by creationists. If these hate mongering CoE funny farm cases are seriously going to try and convince the public that their pernicious lies are true they will have to re-write history. Of course they've already started working on that. IOW, it is the CoE is the real threat to human rights and democracy. Half of the USA would be in prison if such a ludicrous oppressive rule were applied against 'pro-lifers'. The pastor being put in jail for speaking the truth is uncannily similar to the way the Nazi's punished those who accused them of murder.Borne
June 25, 2007
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A month or two, I picked up a German news and current events magazine that had an article on the closing of churches in Germany. No one attends anymore, so they’re converting them to all kinds of other uses... If they continue to follow historical patterns a sort of anti-Christianity will emerge to unite the Herd. E.g.
All of the various types of neopagans are agreed only in one thing-their rejection of Christianity and the established churches...
(The Nordic Pagan Chant Grows Louder By Albion Rossberlin The New York Times, Aug 4, 1935; pg. 3-4)mynym
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Wow I’m considered dangerous! This could be exciting!
Yes. Your dangerousness and $4.55 will get you a Raspberry Mocha Frappuccino at Starbucks. Anyway, its those jackbooted homeschoolers that the Europeans are really worried about, with their spelling bees and field trips to the local art museum or nursing home. :)russ
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If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe. That's ironic. Proto-Nazis always felt that they were righteous in the past based on pseudo-science and the blurring of clear language and form. It seems that effeminates only believe in "human rights" that Mommy Nature selects because they lack the capacity to their own selections in an intelligent, intelligable way. They're the little fellows who try to engage in "biological thinking." E.g.
Our whole cultural life for decades has been more or less under the influence of biological thinking, as it was begun particularly around the middle of the last century, by the teachings of Darwin, Mendel, and Galton and afterwards has been advanced by the studies of Ploetz, Schallmeyer, Correns, de Vries, Tschermak, Baur, Riidin, Fischer,Lenz, and others. Though it took decades before the courage was found, on the basis of the initial findings ofthe natural sciences, to carry on a systematic study of heredity, the progress of the teaching and its application to man could not be delayed any more.
(Hitler's Professors: The Part of Scholarship in Germany's Crimes Against the Jewish People By Max Weinreich (New York:The Yiddish Scientific Institute, 1946) :33) Ironically their own proto-Nazi tendencies and unnatural attempts at believing in naturalism motivate European elites to believe that Christianity leads to Nazism. It seems to me that human rights best not be left to natural selection or the feelings of people stupid enough to be taken in by the blurring of form, definitions and words typical to Darwinism. After all, natural selection doesn't have a good track record when it comes to humnan rights. Instead, it seems that we need to think through our biology in order to seek some intelligent selections. How fitting it is that passive agressives who are only being intolerant of intolerance and so on want so desperately to believe in survival of the fittest.mynym
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More: http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/06/25/1937217.shtmlRobo
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wow wow wow... Looks like the Guy who said that the world hated Him first and so the world will hate you also was right! Hint: _esus Chris_jpark320
June 25, 2007
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the British government in it's infinite wisdom has decreed that Intelligent Design is not a science. http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/06/25/1937217.shtmlchristopheratlee
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"Next week, the Council of Europe is going to vote on a resolution imposing Darwinism as Europe’s official ideology." Imposing official ideologies, huh? I know this isn't happening anymore, thanks to what D. Anderson wrote above, but it convinces me that what we need to do is turn those abandoned, atheist-pastored German church buildings into libraries so that Darwinists can learn a thing or two from history about how dangerous it is to vote on resolutions imposing official ideologies.nemesis
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I liked this part: Indeed, next Tuesday, the Council of Europe (CoE), Europe’s main human-rights body, will vote on a proposal which advocates the fight against creationism, “young earth” and “intelligent design” in its 47 member states. According to a report of the CoE’s Parliamentary Assembly, creationists are dangerous “religious fundamentalists” who propagate “forms of religious extremism” and “could become a threat to human rights.” The report adds that the acceptance of the science of evolutionism “is crucial to the future of our societies and our democracies.” Wow I'm considered dangerous! This could be exciting! To bad its not true. The only thing I'm dangerous too is the blatant lies that evolutionists spread. If telling the truth is dangerous to some people so be it. I would rather know the real truth of reality than be led astray by the imagination of a group of "experts" any day.bornagain77
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There was no vote on the creationism thing: see here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUKL2543885120070625 Also for people interested in the BCSE, see my latest post: their leader has walked out: http://bcse-revealed.blogspot.com Daviddavidanderson
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A month or two, I picked up a German news and current events magazine that had an article on the closing of churches in Germany. No one attends anymore, so they're converting them to all kinds of other uses, and instituting a sort of church closing ceremony or "last rites" to these often historic, but now empty buildings. Its a little surprising that Germans would feel threatened by creationism or ID. I guess some secularists demand total control of the culture and can tolerate no dissent whatsoever.russ
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That's astounding. It must have actually hurt mentally to rationalize ID as "undemocratic" and a "threat to human rights." After all, it wasn't ID that spawned eugenics programs.Conspirator
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