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IHU- Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, is a significant French research institute that has continued its work on CV 19. For the record, here are excerpts from some recent work, headlined from threads where such would be buried:

EXH 1: >>COVID-IHU #15

Version 1 du 27 Mai 2020
Early diagnosis and management of COVID-19 patients: a real-life cohort study of 3,737 patients, Marseille, France

Abstract

Background:
In our institute in Marseille, France, we proposed early and massive screening for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Hospitalization and early treatment with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) was proposed for the positive cases.

Methods:
We retrospectively report the clinical management of 3,737 patients, including 3,054 (81.7%) treated with HCQ-AZ for at least three days and 683 (18.3%) patients treated with other methods (“others”). Outcomes were death, transfer to the intensive care unit (ICU), ? 10 days of hospitalization and viral shedding.

Results:
By testing 101,522 samples by polymerase chain reaction (PCR) from 65,993 individuals, we diagnosed 6,836 patients (10.4%), including 3,737 included in our cohort. The mean age was 45 (sd 17) years, 45% were male, and the fatality rate was 0.9%. We performed 2,065 low-dose computed tomography (CT) scans highlighting lung lesions in 581 of the 933 (62%) patients with minimal clinical symptoms (NEWS score = 0). A discrepancy between spontaneous dyspnoea, hypoxemia and lung lesions was observed. Clinical factors (age, comorbidities, NEWS-2 score), biological factors (lymphopenia; eosinopenia; decrease in blood zinc; and increase in D-dimers, lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), creatinine phosphokinase (CPK), and c-reactive protein (CRP)) and moderate and severe lesions detected in low-dose CT scans were associated with poor clinical outcome. Treatment with HCQ-AZ was associated with a decreased risk of transfer to the ICU or death (HR 0.19 0.12-0.29), decreased risk of hospitalization ?10 days (odds ratios 95% CI 0.37 0.26-0.51) and shorter duration of viral shedding (time to negative PCR: HR 1.27 1.16-1.39). QTc prolongation (>60 ms) was observed in 25 patients (0.67%) leading to the cessation of treatment in 3 cases. No cases of torsade de pointe or sudden death were observed.

Conclusion
Early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ result in a significantly better clinical outcome and contagiosity in patients with COVID-19 than other treatments. Long-term follow-up to screen for fibrosis will be the next challenge in the management of COVID-19.>>

EXH 2: >>Adjusting series of patients for trial comparisons for COVID –
19 treatments

Author list :
3Audrey GIRAUD -GATINEAU1,2,3,4 (PhD student); Jean Christophe LAGIER 1,4,5 (MD); 4 Yolande OBADIA 1
(MD); Hervé CHAUDET 1,2,3 (MD); Didier RAOULT 1,5* (MD)

Abstract:

Background
: SARS – COV-2 has emerged and spread around the world since December 2019. Studies initiated in Marseille by our hospital centre have suggested significant clinical effectiveness of treatment by combining hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ+AZ). However, due to the
urgency of responding to the pandemic, they were not obtained through randomized controlled trials. Alternative assessment methods are therefore needed.

Methods:
We compared our data in silico with those published by two studies comparing 32 other antiviral drugs. For this purpose, random sampling was performed in our cohort to 33 obtain similar groups for disease severity, gender, age and comorbidities associated with 34 chronic diseases with patients included in the remdesivir and lopinavir-ritonavir trials.

Findings:
Dual HCQ+AZ therapy was associated with 3 times fewer deaths than
similar 37groups treated either with lopinavir-ritonavir(9% vs 20%, p-value = 0·03) or standard care 38 (8% vs 25·2%, p-value = 0·001). Compared with patients included in the remdesivir
study by 39 Wang et al., we also showed a significant difference in the clinical outcome (proportion of 40cured patients with negative viral load) in favour of HCQ+AZ (77.8% versus 58·2% p = 0·0001). 42 43

Interpretation:
Although comparison of HCQ+AZ with other antiviral drugs has limitations 44due to aggregated data, this study provides additional evidence showing that HCQ+AZ should 45 be the systematic treatment of choice after diagnosis of COVID -19 -positive cases. 46 47

Funding:
This work was supported by the French Government under the “Investments for theFuture” programme managed by the National Agency for Research (ANR), Méditerranée- Infection 10-
IAHU – 03 , and was also supported by Région Provence Alpes Côte d’Azur and European funding FEDER PRIMMI (Fonds Européen de Développement Régional -51 Plateformes de Recherche et d’Innovation Mutualisées Méditerranée Infection)>>

EXH 3: >>Assay
Randomised Controlled Trials during epidemic

Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger, Didier Raoult
Aix Marseille Université, IRD, MEPHI, VITROME,
ORS Paca, IHU-Méditerranée Infection, Marseille,
France

In epidemics there is an urgent need for new knowledge on drug efficacy to help policymakers fight the crisis. Yet the best research methodology to do this is a matter of de bate, write Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger and Didier Raoult .

The outbreak of an emerging infectious agent needs the rapid involvement of research to bring new knowledge. Past experience with Ebola virus outbreaks and, more recently SARS-CoV 2, have raised a question over the place of randomised controlled trials (RCTs) as the methodology of choice to
answer clinical questions in an novel epidemic situation. Drug safety and effectiveness is a long process which can take years. For antimicrobials, just 25% of drugs submitted to phase 1 succeed to Phase 3 and further licensing (1). This is why, in an epidemic, drug repurposing is often looked at, because drug toxicity has already been evaluated (2).

An RCT isdesigned to attempt to reduce bias, particularly in trials evaluating new drugs. The principle is to random assign volunteers into two or more treatment options and then compare them against a measured outcome. As RCTs reduce causality and spurious bias, they are considered to be the most reliable form of scientific evidence. For these reasons, they are required for market authorisation of a new pharmaceutical drug and cited by healthcare policies as a mandatory means for decision -making about treatments.

When gold standard becomes unethical

In emerging disease outbreaks, there is an urgent lack of treatments for the new pathogen. When a particular therapeutic option is supported by scientifically demonstrated efficacy in vitro and or in animal model, and supported further by clinical case reports and/or pilot series in humans, it is ethically difficult to argue that the data still needs to be confirmed in an RCT before it can be made available to patients. Especially if it seems “obvious” that control (untreated) subjects will have poorer outcomes than those receiving treatment. As one study mocked, there would be few volunteers for the placebo group in an RCT on the parachute’s effectiveness in avoiding death by jumping out of an airplane, unless the jump had an average height of 0.6 m (3).

When even imperfect scientific data show a particularly obvious effect, it is no longer ethical to perform an RCT since it forces patients to accept either not to be treated (in the control arm), or to be treated with a molecule known to be effective. Consider the advent of penicillin. It took five
patients before Sir Edward Abraham could definitively demonstrate that penicillin saved 100% of patients with staphylococcus or streptococcus infections. Nobody today would dare to test the efficacy of penicillin on pneumococcal pneumonia compared to placebo . . . >>

Food for thought, especially given the fiasco of the seemingly decisive Lancet paper which then had to be withdrawn. The remarks on the gold standard fallacies are particularly significant.

The underlying issue is that selective hyperskepticism is leading to ignoring of cumulatively adequate but somehow unwelcome findings, tracing to ethical weaknesses including the error of imagining skepticism an intellectual virtue and using it to substitute for prudence. We need to restore that due balance to our reasoning and decision-making.

A useful brief summary on prudence is:

Prudence is the virtue that disposes practical reason to discern our true good in every circumstance and to choose the right means of achieving it; “the prudent man looks where he is going.”65 “Keep sane and sober for your prayers.”66 Prudence is “right reason in action,” writes St. Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle.67 It is not to be confused with timidity or fear, nor with duplicity or dissimulation. It is called auriga virtutum (the charioteer of the virtues); it guides the other virtues by setting rule and measure. It is prudence that immediately guides the judgment of conscience. The prudent man determines and directs his conduct in accordance with this judgment. With the help of this virtue we apply moral principles to particular cases without error and overcome doubts about the good to achieve and the evil to avoid.

Further food for thought, on seven indicative, inescapable first duties of responsible reason: to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so to fairness and justice, etc. . END

Comments
Israel's Health Ministry has issued a recommendation to close down dozens of cities in Israel, as the list of towns that have recorded outbreaks keeps growing. The government is unlikely to take the suggestion. A new report released on Tuesday by the government’s coronavirus information center said that over the last few days, there has been increased incidence of the disease in Nahariya, Ramle, Lod, Dimona, Beit She’an, Baqa al-Gharbiya, Kafr Qasem, Umm al-Fahm, Jaljulya and Tira. Larger cities, like Bat Yam, Ashdod, Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, also have hundreds of active cases, compared to just a few per day in May. (Ido Efrati) As the 2020 school year comes to a close, a letter from the Education Ministry's director general has become public, asking principals to prepare for three different scenarios in the next school year: Full closure, a mix of distance learning and in-class tuition, and regular curriculum, with specific regulations. The document asks school administrators to build programs for each eventuality, allowing for more flexibility and responsiveness. Schools will only be expected to teach 70 percent of the current compulsory curriculum. The decision over the number of hours taughts, the separation in tiers, and other techniques used during the coronavirus outbreak would be left to school authorities. (Shira Kadari-Ovadia) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-coronavirus-israel-live-cases-rise-second-wave-1.8957862rhampton7
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Four more Texas counties will have to hold off on elective surgeries for now as a rash of COVID-19 infections continues to surge its way through the Lone Star State. Tuesday, Governor Greg Abbott proclaimed the suspension of elective surgeries at hospitals in Cameron, Hidalgo, Nueces and Webb counties. This affects the communities surrounding Brownsville, McAllen, Corpus Christi and Laredo. Gov. Abbott also reserved the right to add or remove counties from the list as numbers fluctuate throughout the state. http://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/gov-abbott-suspends-elective-surgery-for-more-texas-countiesrhampton7
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In his recent hearing before the Commission of Inquiry of the National Assembly, when a deputy with a training in genetics (there are still some to have a real scientific training; fortunately in the National Assembly he not just Ciotti, Le Gendre or Mélenchon) asked him: " Why did you not carry out a clinical study worthy of the name, from the start, which could have definitively answered, yes or no , hydroxychloroquine has an effect? (….) I know all your work, your science is well established (…) You knew very well that these pseudo-therapeutic trials, these pseudo-clinical trials were absolutely not admissible by anyone (…). Why didn't you do this essay? " In his response, the coronagourou once again outdid himself in the mixture of arrogance and charlatanism that seduces so many weak minds and demagogues: "the fewer people there are in an essay, the more significant it is. (…) Any essay that involves more than 1000 people is an essay that tries to demonstrate something that does not exist. It's intoxicating…. " From the point of view of the basic principles of statistical analysis, it is obviously quite the opposite: the larger the sample size, the better the level of confidence achieved: everyone can understand that a survey d opinion on only 100 people will be of lower quality than if 10,000 people are surveyed. We even know that the sample size must evolve in a quadratic way to tighten the confidence interval (to improve the result by reducing the statistical variability by a factor of 2, you have to multiply the sample size by 4. ) What is true is that if the effect of a treatment is really very significant, it can be detected on samples of only a few hundred or even a few dozen patients. But still it is necessary that precautions are taken to avoid all selection biases (hence the interest of the tests conducted in double blind and controlled by an independent group of test evaluators: they have access to the codes which makes it possible to follow the experiment continuously and to stop the evaluation of the treatment as soon as it proves useful or on the contrary harmful: that a trial is controlled by independent supervision is therefore a guarantee of ethics of the experimentation). Unfortunately, the publications of Raoult and his team seem designed to allow no scientific validation. Their last paper published on June 25 is in fact a comparative observational study relating to 3119 files, which shows how Raoult can affirm everything and its opposite without that his followers hold it against him. He can thus publish an observational study based on the follow-up files of more than 3,000 patients treated by his institute after having affirmed that the other observational syntheses on file which contradicted his hypothesis were worthless, then claimed a few days ago that the essays of more than 1,000 people " try to demonstrate something that does not exist " without making the eyes of its worshipers tickle. This new publication under the flag of convenience (according to journalist JY Nau, the paper took time to come out and finally appeared in the same review which had already hosted its previous publications on the subject ... and after being rejected by The Lancet ) has been described as “ null from zero ” by the epidemiologist D. Costagliola who points out the recurrence of defects already noted in the previous publications of the IHU and in particular a sampling bias (the treated patients being younger and less severely affected than others). It is all the more unfortunate that there remains an uncertainty concerning the possible effectiveness of its protocol in patients in the initial phase of infection, because we already know, from studies carried out elsewhere in Europe and in the USA, that its treatment does not work on patients already severely affected and that hydroxychloroquine also has no prophylactic value, whatever Donald Trump thinks. https://blogs.mediapart.fr/michel-delarche/blog/300620/toujours-pas-de-validation-scientifique-du-protocole-raoultrhampton7
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Since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, Professor Didier Raoult, who heads the IHU - Méditerranée Infection in Marseille, has established himself as one of the main media and scientific figures. Determined promoter of a treatment based on hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19, he drew the wrath of his colleagues denouncing the flaws in his studies supposed to demonstrate the effectiveness of this molecule. Since then, serious scientific studies on the subject all point to a lack of effect of hydroxychloroquine. The professor from Marseille says for his part that his detractors are "children", even "badgers" who understand nothing about viruses, while calling himself "Mbappé of medicine and research", "the star world of infectious diseases ", even the Mozart of medicine. By publishing an extraordinary number of studies in scientific journals controlled by his friends, he obtains a miraculous note and obtains 10 million euros of funding per year from the AP-HM. Decryption. https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/sciences/l-astuce-du-pr-raoult-pour-publier-massivement-des-etudes-et-decrocher-des-financements_2129521.htmlrhampton7
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UKs NHS services could take as long as 2 years to recover from the effects of COVID-19, a Royal College of Physicians (RCP) member survey of specialists suggests. Fewer procedures can be undertaken due to infection control measures affecting specialties in different ways, RCP found. Respiratory and gastroenterology specialists expected it to take 2 years to recover from the COVID-10 backlog but cardiologists predicted 18–21 months. A separate survey representing 158 NHS trust chairs and chief executives in England found that 54% were reporting increasing numbers of patients whose health conditions had become urgent by the time they sought help. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/933166rhampton7
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The WHO announced on Wednesday the resumption of its hydroxychloroquine trials after The Lancet cast doubt over a large-scale study it published in May that led to temporary suspension of testing of the drug. The observational study looked at records for 96,000 patients and concluded that treatment with hydroxychloroquine, which is normally used to treat arthritis, and chloroquine, an anti-malarial, showed no benefit in the treatment of COVID-19 and even increased the likelihood of patients dying in hospital. “We are now fairly confident, not having seen any differences in mortality, that the data safety monitoring committees of both solidarity and recovery have recommended that the trial can continue,” the WHO‘s Soumya Swaminathan told a press briefing on Wednesday. France was among the countries to also halt COVID-19 treatment with hydroxychloroquine. https://pinevillevoice.com/lancet-casts-doubts-over-hydroxychloroquine-study/rhampton7
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HCQ is for pre- to early stage COVID, Remdesivir is late stage. They don’t compete.rhampton7
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Has hell froze over? I agree with Bernie Sanders. https://bit.ly/3eNPN54
As a company, Gilead is now worth over $15 billion more than before the pandemic, in part because it expects to make enormous profits by charging over $3,000 for a drug they had already developed years ago. Their greed must be stopped
Wonder why HCQ is anathema?jerry
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I just realized that the Eastern Virginia covid paper has been updated (June 17th): https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdfET
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Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday announced an executive order temporarily stopping the operation of bars, gyms and movie theaters, banning certain mass gatherings and delaying the start date for the state's schools in an effort to rein in the state's rapidly increasing number of COVID-19 cases. The order goes into effect at 8 p.m. Monday, June 29. It says businesses that are ordered to be closed — which also include waterparks — will need to show they're following public health regulations if they are to reopen after a target of 30 days. Schools are now set to reopen Aug. 17, for now. In Monday's briefing, Ducey again focused on the growing number of cases among younger people, pointing to state data showing the 20-44 age group account for 22% of hospitalizations. He stressed the objective is to slow the spread of the virus, pointing to data of significantly lower daily case counts during the stay-at-home order. "We've done that before and we need to do that again," he said. In the briefing, the governor did not issue a stay-at-home order, nor did he order the closure of restaurants. He continued to implore Arizonans to wear masks, but made no statewide requirement to that effect. https://news.azpm.org/p/news-articles/2020/6/29/175677-ducey-orders-closure-of-bars-movie-theaters-and-gyms-delays-start-of-school/rhampton7
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This new study from China’s Wuhan University says that the use of cholesterol-lowering drugs called statins is associated with a lower death rate and a lesser incidence of mechanical ventilation in hospitalised COVID-19 patients.
Simvastatin or Zocor is on the full treatment regimen of the Eastern Virginia Medical School regimen. But also says atorvastatin or Lipitor may be preferred.jerry
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Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly announced a statewide order requiring Kansans to wear face masks in indoor spaces. The requirement takes effect at 12:01 a.m. Friday. "Every Kansan in a public space must wear a mask," the governor said. "This doesn't change where you can go or what you can do. It just means that if you're around other people, you must wear a mask." Kelly said the number of cases of COVID-19 continue to increase and the face mask requirement will help slow the spread of the virus. https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-gov-laura-kelly-issues-statewide-face-mask-mandate/33003505rhampton7
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Indonesia - BPOM confirms that Hydroxychloroquine is one type of drug that has been given a marketing authorization but for emergency needs. Do not just buy in an online store. Director of Drug Registration, BPOM, Dr. dra. L. Rizka Andalucia, M.Pharm, Apt said, its use must still be used in the realm of test, clinical and safety. Furthermore, the Task Force Expert for the Acceleration of Handling COVID-19 / Chair of the PDPI, Dr. dr. Agus Dwi Susanto Sp.P (K) emphasized that the use of Hydroxychloroquine and dexametcahone is meaningless for patients exposed to Covid-19 with mild and moderate conditions. "Firstly there is no second benefit to side effects," he said. The 5 recommendations for the use of Hydroxychloroquine include being used for adults under the age of 50 years. Secondly there are no heart problems, third for children with severe cases and close monitoring. Then fourthly, it must be given to inpatients, because there is ECG monitoring so it must be done at the hospital. Finally, if there are side effects must be stopped. https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/tech/20200629115418-37-168710/stop-beli-dexamethasone-hydroxychloroquine-di-toko-onlinerhampton7
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With the COVID-19 pandemic raging on unabated and no vaccine or cure in sight yet, scientists are looking at existing drugs that may help in the treatment of patients infected with this virus. Now scientists say that commonly used cholesterol-lowering statin drugs may help reduce the death rate in hospitalised COVID-19 patients. This new study from China's Wuhan University says that the use of cholesterol-lowering drugs called statins is associated with a lower death rate and a lesser incidence of mechanical ventilation in hospitalised COVID-19 patients. The findings, published in the journal Cell Metabolism, also show that mortality risk and other negative outcomes were not increased by combination therapy consisting of statins and blood pressure-lowering drugs called angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs). According to researchers, these results support the safety and potential benefits of statin therapy in hospitalised patients with COVID-19 and provide a rationale for prospective studies to determine whether statins confer protection against COVID-19-associated mortality. Statins may serve such a purpose because these drugs slow the progression of lung injury in animals, improve immune cell responses, and strongly reduce inflammation, which is likely responsible for severe COVID-19 complications such as organ damage. https://www.thehealthsite.com/news/covid-19-common-cholesterol-lowering-statin-drugs-bring-down-mortality-rates-by-19-per-cent-754582/rhampton7
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Israel’s ccoronavirus cabinet voted to roll out a series of new restrictions on Monday, as the number of people infected with the virus has continued to rise for the past month. On Monday night, the Health Ministry reported there were 432 new patients since midnight. Effective immediately, cultural events and performances will be limited to 250 people, circumcision ceremonies and funerals will be capped at 50, university final exams will be taken online except in extreme circumstances, 30% of public-sector workers will work from home and only 28 children can be included in a group at summer camps, the cabinet decided. In addition, outdoor and indoor weddings can continue with 250 attendees in open spaces until July 10, at which time indoor weddings will be limited to up to 100 guests. Communal prayers and other social gatherings will be limited to 50 people. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/coronavirus-nearly-30000-israelis-have-been-infected-with-the-virus-633167rhampton7
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India’s prominent role as a key exporter of HCQ, despite its unproven ability to cure COVID-19, is not going unnoticed. India is donating the medicine based on two categories — “humanitarian aid” and “commercial basis.” It is being donated to SAARC, several African countries and is being sold chiefly to the US and Germany. Many political leaders are lauding India’s decision to not only lift its ban on the export of HCQ and other medicines, but to also donate it in the form of humanitarian aid. Despite the global debate regarding Hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating COVID-19, it has also become a tool for India to cement its position not only as a responsible stakeholder amidst the coronavirus, but also consolidate its standing as a leading producer of medicines in the world. For instance, India is trying to implement ways in which it reduces its dependence on China for active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) by producing it locally. With the fillip accorded by its recent medical diplomacy, the government of India has planned to introduce an incentive scheme worth around INR 10,000 billion ($1.3 billion) to help the pharma sector boost domestic production of medicinal raw materials. Hence, despite the jury still being out on HCQ’s effectiveness, the export of the anti-malarial drug can help India consolidate its stature as the “pharmacy of the world”. https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/understanding-confusion-over-efficacy-hydroxychloroquine-68723/rhampton7
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Raoult speaks https://bit.ly/2YHXeFe A translation of his testimony last week to the French government. Is this the Return of the Jedi after the Empire Strikes back to kill HCQ. Who knows! Raoult mentions Gilead which gets over $3,000 per patient vs $9 for the Zelenko protocol and cost of Raoult's protocol is about the same as Zelenko's. Somehow RHampton missed most of these studies. https://bit.ly/2YI0MY4jerry
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Wow. https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/06/28/texas-couple-married-years-dies-coronavirus-while-holding-hands/Retired Physicist
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RH7, the ethics-epistemological issues are innate and do not go away even if legislators insist on a gold standard fallacy. The decision theory issue of business as usual vs a credible alternative has not vanished either; there is never a justification for violating the do no harm principle to construct an artificial no treatment control in the face of a fast moving significantly fatal, quite contagious disease. In that light, there is more than adequate evidence available for those willing to be open to it, that HCQ+ cocktails credibly are effective treatments once administered early enough in the disease U. What is clear is that we have a debased mentality once ethics enter. However, oops, as first duties of reason cannot be evaded ethics inescapably governs rationality. So, the ethically debased mindset is in the end untrustworthy and irrational. That is a sobering sign for our civilisation. KFkairosfocus
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It is hard to give a coherent answer to an absurd question.
If it is an absurd question, explain why it is absurd. That should not be hard if it is and would then be coherent.jerry
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Acartia Eddie:
It is fair to say that the US, by whatever measure you choose, has handled this pandemic very poorly.
That is your very biased opinion, anyway. But that is all it is.ET
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Almost 130,000 dead from COVID-19 in the US and the daily new cases stat is rising quickly.
I know. A couple months ago Barry vowed to make a public apology if the COVID deaths reached 200,000 by January 2021. Even I thought that was a safe bet for Barry. Does anyone today think it is an absurdly high number? It is fair to say that the US, by whatever measure you choose, has handled this pandemic very poorly.Ed George
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Vice President Mike Pence met with Gov. Greg Abbott Sunday in Dallas for a briefing and news conference on the state's response to COVID-19 as cases have surged in recent weeks. The positivity rate in the state reached 14.31% Sunday, a warning sign the virus has increasingly spread across Texas communities, Abbott said earlier in the day. The rate had been down below 4.27% by the end of May. "You flattened the curve here in Texas... but about two weeks ago something changed," Pence said to the public. The two leaders were joined by a panel including Dr. Deborah Birx, a member of the White House's coronavirus task force, along with Sen. John Cornyn and HUD Secretary Dr. Ben Carson. Birx also stressed the importance of "100% compliance" with mask orders in Bexar, Dallas, Harris and Travis counties as hospitalization rates have increased over the past two weeks, particularly among younger adults with underlying health conditions. "You have 20-to 40-year-olds in the ICU [in Texas]," she explained. https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-live-updates-dallas-fort-worth-vice-president-mike-pence-north-texas-june-28/287-006076a3-2198-4def-84d8-273317039bc7rhampton7
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Cakifornia Governor Gavin Newsom on Sunday ordered bars and nightclubs closed in Los Angeles and six other counties, while recommending closures in eight others including Riverside and San Bernardino, as the state’s coronavirus caseload continued to grow. The message, posted by the governor around noon on Twitter, said that “due to the rising spread of #COVID19, CA is ordering bars to close in Fresno, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, San Joaquin and Tulare.” The order, the first major rollback of efforts to reopen California’s economy, was effective immediately, a spokesman for the California Health and Human Services Agency confirmed. The state also is recommending bar closures for Riverside, Sacramento, San Bernardino, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Contra Costa, Stanislaus and Ventura. For those counties, a health officer order would be needed to make closing bars there mandatory. https://www.pe.com/2020/06/28/california-governor-orders-some-bars-including-in-l-a-county-to-close-as-u-s-posts-record-covid-cases/rhampton7
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a news conference Sunday in Pensacola that interactions among young people are driving the surge. Meanwhile in Broward County, home to Fort Lauderdale, authorities said they would be closing beaches during the busy Fourth of July weekend following the decision of Miami-Dade County to close theirs between July 3 and July 7. State officials on Friday announced a ban on alcohol consumption at bars, and DeSantis explained Sunday there was “widespread non-compliance.” Several restaurants were shut down over the weekend in Broward County for not following rules restricting capacity and mandating the use of masks. “It has invariably been because they packed so many people in and created a type of environment that we are trying to avoid,” DeSantis said. “Caution was thrown to the wind and so we are where we are.” https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/more-florida-beaches-to-close-amid-virus-surgerhampton7
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A large study of 3,119 people treated with the “Raoult protocol” was published on June 25 by the team from the IHU Méditerranée Infection. It has not convinced several epidemiologists on the effectiveness of the treatment proposed by the Marseille infectiologist, writes Le Monde. However, the opinion of several epidemiologists does not coincide with this conclusion. "No one at home," said Dominique Costagliola, deputy director of the Pierre-Louis Institute of epidemiology and public health (Sorbonne University, Inserm). For her, the comparison between the treated patients and the others is not valid: the former are on average younger and have less severe symptoms and lung damage. "What can we say? We compare cabbage and carrots and even by adjusting the size of the leaves it remains cabbage and carrots ”, underlines the pharmacologist and pulmonologist Mathieu Molimard of the University of Bordeaux. Anton Pottegard, professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the University of Southern Denmark, says he does not "trust" the results of the study. "Why? Because it does not meet the most basic requirements to which it should subscribe. There are many problems, each of which is of great concern. Taken together, they make this study 100% useless to guide clinical practice. ” M.Pottegard explains that treated patients are compared to people who are not. “The main problem is that those who do not survive treatment are classified as untreated. I could suggest a new clinical trial: kiss the patients on the forehead for three days. I would compare those who would have received the three kisses to those ... who would not have survived to receive them. The effect of the treatment would be great: none of the patients who received my treatment would have died. ” https://fr.sputniknews.com/france/202006281044017863-nul-de-chez-nul-une-nouvelle-etude-de-didier-raoult-sous-le-feu-des-critiques/rhampton7
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LoL! When you take it out of context it may seem absurd. If you remain willfully ignorant to all explanations, it may also seem absurd.ET
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Jerry
I asked the question. There was no coherent answer. So my guess is that one doesn’t exist.
It is hard to give a coherent answer to an absurd question.Ed George
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I asked the question. There was no coherent answer. So my guess is that one doesn't exist. Ed George came closest. He essentially said ignore the virus and go about your business. That is what we do with the flu, rabbles and meningitis using his examples.jerry
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With the rise of the number of cases the IFR is decreasing. Think of the flu without a vaccine.ET
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