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Video: What are the Limits of Darwinism? A Presentation by Dr. Michael Behe at the University of Toronto

Denyse O'Leary
February 22, 2013
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By the way, Gregory, did you listen to the entire video of Behe? And if so, what is your reaction, not to the wisecrack about his mother, but to the substance of his presentation, and to his conversation with the audience? Just curious to see if your reaction to Behe differs from your reaction to Dembski, and if so, how, and why.Timaeus
February 23, 2013
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Gregory: Not a sense of entitlement -- just reasonable social expectations. When you make a strident criticism of someone (as you did of me), and fire all kinds of questions at him, as if you are demanding an answer, and that someone (me) takes an hour, or even half an hour, to craft an answer that deals with your concerns, the normal social expectation is that you will make *some* comment on the answer. Even if you don't want to continue a conversation, you can always say something like, "Thank you for taking the time to further explain your position; I'm not convinced by what you've said, but for the time being I will leave matters as they stand; maybe we can come back to this on another occasion." That would get you out of further replies, while indicating a modicum of gratitude for the effort made. This is nothing to do with academic or internet expectations; it's just a matter of basic manners. Of course, if you want to break off that conversation, just indicate so in the appropriate place, and I won't press the matter. But for my money, I gave a very reasonable answer which should be of use to you if you really want to *understand* my position, rather than merely *attack* it. I look forward to any reply you may give. Best wishes. P.S. Behe has used that joke about his mother more than once. I don't think you can assume any "historical" basis for it.Timaeus
February 23, 2013
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As they say in Russia, in every joke there's an element of truth. Behe's mother rejects something about his IDism. What is it? Oh, don't worry, it's coming, Timaeus. You are the 'tell us, tell us' demander towards me. I'm just serving truth to your quasi-political marginal-IDM power-playing, which is often not 'polite,' but simply flip-flopping and tritely bobbling. And here you are, claiming entitlement to answers on-line once again! The story sure doesn't seem to change much in Timaeus' world.Gregory
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Ummmm ... Gregory, I think Behe was making a joke. By the way, you demanded an explanation of my position, under https://uncommondescent.com/news/release-of-the-sententias-journal/ You asked me a bunch of questions in #53, and I gave you a polite and full reply at #55. I'll look for your response there.Timaeus
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Why does Michael Behe's mother disagree with him, presumably regarding Intelligent Design theory?Gregory
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Semi OT; For ID people who cut their teeth years ago on Phillip Johnson's 1991 book "Darwin On Trial", this audio lecture delivered in April of 2012 at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary may be enjoyable to listen to: Darwin on Trial: The Science Issues - Phillip E. Johnson - audio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5sqd1SKXo Darwin on Trial: The Philosophical Issues - Phillip E. Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJDlBvbPSMA Darwin on Trial: The Cultural Issues - Phillip E. Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OizQdFVSQT0bornagain77
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I watched this video the other day. It is the best presentation I've seen Dr. Behe give thus far on the subject.bornagain77
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