God Help The Little Babies

_{Barry Arrington

January 25, 2019

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Here is a picture of a baby being operated on before birth. With advances in medical technology, this has become a fairly common procedure.

Now, imagine the operating room is in New York. In the operating room on the other side of the wall, a doctor could be hacking a practically identical baby to death. Legally.

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Lethal Bigotry Abortion used to be against the law. Why? Well, is murder wrong? Yes. Is deliberately taking the life of an innocent human being murder? Yes. Is the life in the human womb an innocent human being? Yes. (What else could it be? Everybody knows that, which is why pregnant women used to be referred to as being “with child.”) So what happened? Why is murdering the child in the womb now legal? It isn’t. Mere mortals can only pretend to have the authority to “legalize” murder. “Legal” abortion was treated as a crime against humanity by prosecutors at the Nuremberg Trials. There were defendants at the Nuremberg Trials who demonstrated that they had done nothing illegal according to Nazi law - who were hanged anyway. Why? Murder is intrinsically illegal. That is obvious for those who take seriously God’s command “Thou shalt do no murder.” It should also be obvious to any civilized human being. A basic concept of civilization that raises it above savagery is that the powerful can’t kill the less powerful simply because doing so serves their purposes at the moment. One doesn’t need to be a Christian to understand the following: • Humanity precedes the state and brings it into existence. • Therefore the state exists for humanity, not humanity for the state. • Therefore it is humanity that bestows and withdraws the state’s right to exist, not the state that bestows and withdraws humanity’s right to exist. • Therefore the state (if it is to avoid returning to savagery, albeit while carefully maintaining a facade of legitimacy) simply doesn't claim for itself any authority whatsoever to “legalize” the murder of innocent humanity. The Nazi experiment in “legal” murder became an unmitigated disaster. It sprang from the German intelligentsia’s advocacy of “legal” abortion and euthanasia that had begun a decade before the Nazis rose to power. That combined with the unrestrained-by-morality legal positivism of Austrian jurist Hans Kelsen set the Nazis on their path to diabolical savagery. Roe vs. Wade, with its abrupt withdrawal of the protection of law from a vast segment of humanity, set us on the same civilization-destroying path. So how did we get from the revelations of atrocities at the Nuremberg Trials to resuming them? Bigotry – MSM-manufactured bigotry the purpose of which was and is to dehumanize the child in the womb in the public mind. That such propaganda is very powerful is testified to by the fact that even Christian bishops, priests, pastors, and Christian pundits, still don’t exhort the flock to respond to the murder of babies by the millions like they would, say, the murder of two-year-olds by the millions. In their minds, somehow the child in the womb just doesn’t really count, like enslaved Blacks just didn’t count in the minds of many in pre-Civil War America. And like Jews and the institutionalized just didn’t really count in Nazi Germany. Such is the power of contemporary bigotry-inducing propaganda, the vicious evil of which the world hasn’t seen since Joseph Goebbels was the Nazi Minister of Propaganda. And if you doubt that Nazi-like atrocities have resumed, Google up aborted babies trash and then click Images.harry_{January 27, 2019
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Here is a feel good story out of New York. Last month, “Volunteers on Long Island [rushed] to save critically endangered sea turtles who have washed up on the sands of the North Fork.” https://abc7ny.com/pets-animals/exclusive-rescuers-on-li-rush-to-save-endangered-sea-turtles/4886730/ I’ve read somewhere it is against state and Federal law (with some very stiff penalties) to disturb the nests of sea turtles, who lay and then bury their eggs in the sand on beaches. Does any else see the irony here? Let’s take some bets. I think someone is going to reply, “Well, that’s okay for sea turtles but humans are not an endangered species.”john_a_designer_{January 26, 2019
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Bob,
I don’t think ‘hacking a practically identical baby to death’ would be legal.
Your uninformed opinion is irrelevant Bob. New York just passed a law making it legal to chop a baby to pieces up to the point of crowning. This has been widely reported in the international media. It is staggering that you don't know this (or at least say you do not; peronally, I am pretty sure you are a liar). Do you want to add anything to the discussion or are you content with simply displaying your profound ignorance? Bob is attempting to suggest that the picture is not of fetal surgery. Allow me to show you the link that Bob gives un-embedded: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Maternal-anesthesia-for-fetal-surgery.-Sviggum-Kodali/bed3cdf5b760b58bc0cedfd3fd7a5d2b5bbbafb9%E2%80%9D Bob do you deny that fetal surgery occurs? Here's the Wiki article on it. I assume you are merely trying to deflect and distract without adding anything substantive to the discussion, which is your usual MO. I am not surprised. Progressives like you are in favor of killing little babies Bob. Are you trying to defend the practice in some roundabout way? Do you have no shame? You are, after all, not sure absolutely sure Holocaust was evil. See here. It is totally unsurprising that you would be OK with hacking little babies to death. Barry Arrington_{January 26, 2019
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I don’t think ‘hacking a practically identical baby to death’ would be legal. That picture is Fig. 3 of this paper, where it is labelled as the EXIT procedure. The paper says in Table 2 that this should be done at the time of delivery. (Edited to close tag in the right place)Bob O'H_{January 26, 2019
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New York Governor, Andrew Cuomo, professes to be a Roman Catholic. The Roman Catholic Church condemns abortion and capital punishment (the death penalty for criminals convicted of very egregious crimes.) Curiously Catholic politicians have used their political positions to argue against the death penalty, which is based only on very recent changes to the churches catechism, but in virtually the very next breath will advocate for more liberal abortion laws. (Abortion has been condemned by the church since ancient times.) For example:
In a speech at the University of Notre Dame in 1984, Andrew’s father Mario — also governor of New York and a self-professed Catholic — pioneered the adage of the post-Roe Catholic Democrat: Though I personally oppose abortion, I cannot use my political position to force that morality on others. This clever yet incoherent formulation allowed a generation of Catholic politicians to abandon the Church’s moral teaching on the total impermissibility of abortion, along with its corresponding basis in science and ethics. With Mario Cuomo’s blessing, politicians such as Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, John Kerry, and New York’s current governor were freed to profess their Catholic baptism from one side of their mouth while from the other sanctifying a woman’s right to dispense with her unborn child.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/andrew-cuomo-new-york-abortion-law/ Does anyone else see the hypocrisy here?john_a_designer_{January 26, 2019
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An Irish priest who was a good friend of ours, before he passed on, commented that when God is left out, man is soon left out. I've come across the saying since.Axel_{January 26, 2019
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Very true, News, and when the boom is lowered, it could hardly be more deserved. California looks like an object lesson in the nemesis ensuing from making up one's own morality. Read today that Cardinal Dolan - I think of New York, and residing there in a stately home - was against the Catholic rank and file's proposal that Andrew Cuomo (Governor or some such) should be excommunicated for concurring with the proponents of a bill to let unwanted babies outside the womb be left to die. He asserted that it was using excommunication as a weapon, 'weaponising' it. Well, is that not what it was supposed to do ? Like the threat of eschatalogical judgment in very principle. It lays bear the 'bad faith' on the part of the abortion types, the falsity of the notion that the age of the foetus is germane to the issue. They are killers of innocent and helpless human beings, plain and simple. But 'weaponising' excommunication ? Are not the abortionist surgeons 'weaponised. And with the bluntest of murder weapons and modus operandi ? Pulling the live baby apart, limb from limb. I'm reminded of Kashoggi's fate. How people can't see what a cheap huckster Trudeau is defies me.Axel_{January 26, 2019
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Canada’s PM Justin Trudeau is a huge fan of live baby dismemberment and will not let charities hire students for summer jobs if they don’t agree to it. What I don’t understand is why people don’t see that in the age of euthanasia, we are all “the fetus” now. No sooner do people like that bring in euthanasia “with consent” than the next drive is to get it for people who can't consent, mental patients, kids and such. Maybe it's a punishment for not caring about helpless babies that people will discover that someone they care about has died under suspicious medical circumstances. But “medical confidentiality” means they can’t find out more. No matter what you otherwise believe about anything, what goes around comes around.News_{January 26, 2019
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Lee Strobel: The Case For Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtH5_kDfXY
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OK wait- Climate change is bad but abortions are OK? How twisted is the left, anyway?ET_{January 25, 2019
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Pro-life obstetrician blasts New York’s ‘horrible’ new abortion law - video https://www.facebook.com/LifeSiteNews/videos/573198246478195/
bornagain77_{January 25, 2019
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A few quotes:
Hillary Clinton is Wrong: OBGYN Says Abortion is Never Necessary to Save the Life of the Mother - MICAIAH BILGER OCT 24, 2016 Dr. Lawrence Koning, an OB-GYN in Corona, California, said Clinton also is wrong about late-term abortions being necessary to save a woman’s life or health, according to Christian News Network. “As an OB/GYN physician for 31 years, there is no medical situation that requires aborting/killing the baby in the third trimester to ‘save the mother’s life,’” Koning wrote on social media after the debate. “Just deliver the baby by C-section and the baby has 95+% survival with readily available NICU care even at 28 weeks. C-section is quicker and safer than partial birth abortion for the mother.” https://catholiccitizens.org/views/68533/hillary-clinton-wrong-obgyn-says-abortion-never-necessary-save-life-mother/ Board Certified OB/GYN Drops Truth Bomb on New York Abortion Law - COURTNEY KIRCHOFF THURSDAY JANUARY 24 2019 I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt. I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies. There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no. - Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/board-certified-ob-gyn-drops-truth-bomb-on-new-york-abortion-law/ Dr. David McKnight, who is a board certified OB/GYN released this statement; (Jan 24, 2019) “It appears that the State of New York has legislated that an unborn baby can now be killed at term. They did this joyfully and celebrated by illuminating the Freedom Tower in pink light. As a board-certified OB/GYN physician for over 30 years, I need to say publicly and unequivocally, that there is NEVER a medical reason to kill a baby at term. When complications of pregnancy endanger a mother’s life, we sometimes must deliver the baby early, but it ALWAYS with the intent of doing whatever we can to do it safely for the baby too. The decision to kill an unborn baby at term is purely for convenience. It is murder. And now it won’t be long before a struggling mother with a 1-month old baby will argue for the right to kill her baby too, because taking care of him or her is just too difficult and inconvenient. When you are willing to rationalize murder, why be subject to a timeline? God help us.” https://www.empirestateconservativenetwork.com/blog/2019/1/24/why-the-reproductive-health-act-is-abhorrent-trash
bornagain77_{January 25, 2019
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