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Alexander Vilenkin

A philosophical question to wake you up. A reader directs our attention to a 2015 piece by cosmologist Alexander Vilenkin at Inference Review (2015):

THE ANSWER to the question, “Did the universe have a beginning?” is, “It probably did.” We have no viable models of an eternal universe. The BGV theorem gives us reason to believe that such models simply cannot be constructed. More.

He offers the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin (BGV) theorem by way of evidence:

Loosely speaking, our theorem states that if the universe is, on average, expanding, then its history cannot be indefinitely continued into the past. More precisely, if the average expansion rate is positive along a given world line, or geodesic, then this geodesic must terminate after a finite amount of time. Different geodesics, different times. The important point is that the past history of the universe cannot be complete.

An outline of a mathematical proof of BGV is appended to the article.

Vilenkin goes on to assert that

Modern physics can describe the emergence of the universe as a physical process that does not require a cause.

He explains,

If all the conserved numbers of a closed universe are equal to zero, then there is nothing to prevent such a universe from being spontaneously created out of nothing. And according to quantum mechanics, any process which is not strictly forbidden by the conservation laws will happen with some probability.

A newly-born universe can have a variety of different shapes and sizes and can be filled with different kinds of matter. As is usual in quantum theory, we cannot tell which of these possibilities is actually realized, but we can calculate their probabilities. This suggests that there could be a multitude of other universes.

He concedes,

The theory of quantum creation is no more than a speculative hypothesis. It is unclear how, or whether, it can be tested observationally. It is nonetheless the first attempt to formulate the problem of cosmic origin and to address it in a quantitative way.

William Lane Craig

Apologist William Lane Craig takes issue with the argument (2017):

Grant the supposition that the positive energy associated with matter is exactly counter-balanced by the negative energy associated with gravity, so that on balance the energy is zero. Vilenkin’s key move comes with the claim that in such a case “there is nothing to prevent such a universe from being spontaneously created out of nothing.” Now this claim is a triviality. Necessarily, if there is nothing, then there is nothing to prevent the universe from coming into being. By the same token, if there is nothing, then there is nothing to permit the universe to come into being. If there were anything to prevent or to permit the universe’s coming into being, then there would be something, not nothing. If there is nothing, then there is nothing, period.

Vilenkin, however, infers that “no cause is needed” for the universe’s coming into being because the conservation laws would not prevent it and “according to quantum mechanics, any process which is not strictly forbidden by the conservation laws will happen.” (Vilenkin assumes that if there were nothing, then both the conservation laws and quantum physical laws would still hold. This is far from obvious, however, since in the absence of anything at all, it is not clear that the laws governing our universe would hold.) But even granted that the laws would still hold, why think that, given the laws of quantum mechanics, anything not strictly forbidden by the conservation laws will happen? … the conservation laws do not strictly forbid something’s coming into existence, but neither do they forbid nothing’s coming into existence, but both cannot happen. It is logically absurd to think that because something is not forbidden by the conservation laws, it will therefore happen.

Finally, Vilenkin’s inference that because the positive and negative energy in the universe sum to zero, therefore no cause of the universe’s coming into being is needed is hard to take seriously. This is like saying that if your debts balance your assets, then your net worth is zero, and so there is no cause of your financial situation! More.

We likely haven’t heard the last of this question but it is nice to see it debated outside of the three-ring circus of crackpot cosmology.

See also, other philosophical questions; Did the universe never have a chance?

Does the size of the universe sweep us toward atheism?

Philosopher: If there is something rather than nothing, questions around God cannot be ignored Waghorn: “Firstly, that on the most plausible demarcation criterion for science, science is constitutionally unable to show theism to be a redundant hypothesis; the debate must take place at the level of metaphysics. ”

Is zero even?

Absolute zero proven mathematically impossible?

Is celeb number pi a “normal” number? Not normal. And things get worse. Surely this oddity is related in some way to the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.

Durston and Craig on an infinite temporal past . . .

Physicist David Snoke thinks that Christians should not use the kalaam argument for God’s existence

and

Must we understand “nothing” to understand physics?

Why is space three dimensions anyway? Why not six? A new theory is offered. They want to test their theory?  What a great idea! In an age of wars on falsifiability, that’s a refreshingly new/old idea.

 

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Folks, that which begins to exist is contingent. That which is contingent has a cause. KFkairosfocus
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@Origines COULD be true, but IS IT? I don't think so. And there's something of a bait and switch between nobody observing it and nobody measuring its mass. The original point I was addressing was that mass is not objectively independent of measurement.ScuzzaMan
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per Patrick McGuire on facebook: "The ultimate observer: "and God saw that it was good"."bornagain77
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ScuzzaMan @40
The idea that the moon has no mass when you’re not trying to measure it’s mass is hard to reconcile with, for example, it’s rather consistent orbit around our planet.
It seems to me that the claim "if you do not measure the moon's mass, it has no mass" cannot be true, given that there are so many 'yous' out there. However, the claim "if no one measures the moon's mass, it has no mass" can be true. The latter claim simply states that at least one consciousness agent — contrary to necessarily "you" — must observe matter to make it actual.Origenes
May 25, 2018
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39:00 minute mark: "Mass turns out not to be an intrinsic property of matter either" - Bruce Gordon: - The Incompatibility of Physicalism with Physics: A Conversation with Dr. Bruce Gordon https://youtu.be/wk-UO81HmO4?t=2344bornagain77
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When you talk to some people about Newtonian Mechanics, you often get this odd blindness to the distinction between a theory as an observation about "how things behave" and a theory as a description of "why and what things are". For example, in pointing out that Newtonian Mechanics was once the "settled science" of its age, these people reply that NM is still very useful, on a human scale and for calculating trajectories in our world, etc, it's accurate enough to BE useful. It's not wrong, they will claim, within its appropriate context. Well, true enough, as an observation of how things on a human scale behave it's accurate enough to be useful. As an explanation for why and what things are, it utterly fails. It was Quantum Mechanics that largely replaced it as an explanation. Those experiments that cause problems for quantum mechanics as an observation about how things behave, likewise call into question it's accuracy and thus usefulness as an explanation for why and what things are. But let's not conflate or confuse the two. The idea that the moon has no mass when you're not trying to measure it's mass is hard to reconcile with, for example, it's rather consistent orbit around our planet. Just because QM has mass problems due to observation at a very small scale, doesn't imply what it looks like is being inferred. And for the christian who believes in a God who created a world that consistently obeys physical laws, as an artifact of his consistent character, the logical inference is that there's things going on that we simply do not understand, and not that there's no such things as objective reality because a theory (QM) that we know is imperfect has problems with observation at a subatomic scale.ScuzzaMan
May 25, 2018
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It still irritates me that Vilenkin would appeal to quantum mechanics to try argue for a 'spontaneous' creation of the universe. And that Craig would, basically, play along and offer, IMHO, such a weak response. Quantum Mechanics is simply devastating to Materialistic presuppositions. Materialism has been dead for decades and recent experimental research only reconfirms this, as this following video 'The Death of Materialism' shows. This video was reviewed by physicist Fred Kuttner and Richard Conn Henry. A few other physicists reviewed this but asked to remain anonymous for privacy reasons.
The Death of Materialism - InspiringPhilosophy – (Material reality does not exist without an observer) video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0IKLv7KrE Should Quantum Anomalies Make Us Rethink Reality? Inexplicable lab results may be telling us we’re on the cusp of a new scientific paradigm By Bernardo Kastrup on April 19, 2018 Excerpt: ,, according to the current paradigm, the properties of an object should exist and have definite values even when the object is not being observed: the moon should exist and have whatever weight, shape, size and color it has even when nobody is looking at it. Moreover, a mere act of observation should not change the values of these properties. Operationally, all this is captured in the notion of “non-contextuality”: ,,, since Alain Aspect’s seminal experiments in 1981–82, these predictions (of Quantum Mechanics) have been repeatedly confirmed, with potential experimental loopholes closed one by one. 1998 was a particularly fruitful year, with two remarkable experiments performed in Switzerland and Austria. In 2011 and 2015, new experiments again challenged non-contextuality. Commenting on this, physicist Anton Zeilinger has been quoted as saying that “there is no sense in assuming that what we do not measure [that is, observe] about a system has [an independent] reality.” Finally, Dutch researchers successfully performed a test closing all remaining potential loopholes, which was considered by Nature the “toughest test yet.”,,, It turns out, however, that some predictions of QM are incompatible with non-contextuality even for a large and important class of non-local theories. Experimental results reported in 2007 and 2010 have confirmed these predictions. To reconcile these results with the current paradigm would require a profoundly counterintuitive redefinition of what we call “objectivity.” And since contemporary culture has come to associate objectivity with reality itself, the science press felt compelled to report on this by pronouncing, “Quantum physics says goodbye to reality.” The tension between the anomalies and the current paradigm can only be tolerated by ignoring the anomalies. This has been possible so far because the anomalies are only observed in laboratories. Yet we know that they are there, for their existence has been confirmed beyond reasonable doubt. Therefore, when we believe that we see objects and events outside and independent of mind, we are wrong in at least some essential sense. A new paradigm is needed to accommodate and make sense of the anomalies; one wherein mind itself is understood to be the essence—cognitively but also physically—of what we perceive when we look at the world around ourselves. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/should-quantum-anomalies-make-us-rethink-reality/ The Incompatibility of Physicalism with Physics: A Conversation with Dr. Bruce Gordon - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk-UO81HmO4 Divine Action and the World of Science: What Cosmology and Quantum Physics Teach Us about the Role of Providence in Nature - Bruce L. Gordon - 2017 Excerpt When we consider the fact that the structure of reality in fundamental physical theory is merely phenomenological and that this structure itself is hollow and non-qualitative, whereas our experience is not, the metaphysical objectivity and epistemic intersubjectivity of the enstructured qualitative reality of our experience can be seen to be best explained by an occasionalist idealism of the sort advocated by George Berkeley (1685-1753) or Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758). In the metaphysical context of this kind of theistic immaterialism, the vera causa that brings coherent closure to the phenomenological reality we inhabit is always and only agent causation. The necessity of causal sufficiency is met by divine action, for as Plantinga emphasizes: [T]he connection between God’s willing that there be light and there being light is necessary in the broadly logical sense: it is necessary in that sense that if God wills that p, p occurs. Insofar as we have a grasp of necessity (and we do have a grasp of necessity), we also have a grasp of causality when it is divine causality that is at issue. I take it this is a point in favor of occasionalism, and in fact it constitutes a very powerful advantage of occasionalism. 118 http://jbtsonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/JBTS-2.2-Article-7.compressed.pdf “The concept of the objective reality of the elementary particles has thus evaporated…”,,,; "The idea of an objective real world whose smallest parts exist objectively in the same sense as stones or trees exist, independently of whether or not we observe them,,, is impossible.,,, We can no longer speak of the behavior of the particle independently of the process of observation” - W. Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy, Harper and Row, New York (1958) https://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/article/download/802/694
bornagain77
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ScuzzaMan @ 37: Bravo, sir! That totally escaped me.LocalMinimum
May 23, 2018
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@LocalMinimum "It seems the only way to have materialism is to just hack off causality at some point; otherwise, precedents reach back into that terrifying unknown beyond mortal reason." Oh, I think after all those devastating "But WHO MADE GOD?!?!" arguments they're going to have to do a little better than "Nothing prevented God from existing so God was inevitable." And they call themselves atheists ...ScuzzaMan
May 23, 2018
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AK, and how many times have you been banned for trollish behavior?bornagain77
May 23, 2018
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BA77,
Well, since I usually either invoke resentment from atheists or admiration from Theists, I must be doing something, however feebly and haphazardly, right.
I think that you are mistaking amusement for resentment. :)Allan Keith
May 23, 2018
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Well, since I usually either invoke resentment from atheists or admiration from Theists, I must be doing something, however feebly and haphazardly, right.
Mentioning resentment & admiration, for a start. :-)Bob O'H
May 23, 2018
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Well, since I usually either invoke resentment from atheists or admiration from Theists, I must be doing something, however feebly and haphazardly, right. As to atheists constantly, and repeatedly, claiming that they see no evidence for God from science, I can only echo Wernher von Braun's sentiment "must we really light a candle to see the sun?"
"Some people ... still maintain that since science has provided us with so many answers the day will soon arrive when we will be able to understand even the creation of the fundamental laws of nature without a Divine intent. They challenge science to prove the existence of God. But must we really light a candle to see the sun?" — Wernher von Braun, rocket pioneer, 1972 - genius behind Apollo program “Although I know of no reference to Christ ever commenting on scientific work, I do know that He said, “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” Thus I am certain that, were He among us today, Christ would encourage scientific research as modern man’s most noble striving to comprehend and admire His Father’s handiwork. The universe as revealed through scientific inquiry is the living witness that God has indeed been at work.” Wernher von Braun, rocket pioneer, leader of Apollo program. - 1976.
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I am convinced that a/mat trolls are just haters seeking to ruin somebody else’s good experience.
I agree TWSYF. Even the rare conversations that sometimes first appear to be semi-rational invariably resolve into the same stupidity. Andrewasauber
May 23, 2018
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The name "Bornagain77" before a post is a hallmark of top quality.Origenes
May 23, 2018
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Truth Will Set You Free @29, BA @24 One thing the repetitive a/mat trolling does for those following the discussion over a period of time, is to reveal the shallowness and absurdity of the a/mat position. A/mats are their own worst enemies. I think people on the fence who frequent this site soon realize the irrationality of Darwinian atheists. That is a good thing. Although I will admit some people are so blatantly evil they shouldn't be given a forum at all. User Zachriel appeared to me to be such a person. I haven't seen any posts by him here in a while. Maybe the moderators saw him the way I did.harry
May 23, 2018
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BA77 @ 24: "I would certainly like to see, not only trolling, but such repetitive trolling by Darwinian atheists, come to an end on UD." Agreed. The repetitive a/mat trolling on UD is really annoying. Where's the outrage over that? I am convinced that a/mat trolls are just haters seeking to ruin somebody else's good experience.Truth Will Set You Free
May 23, 2018
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harry @ 27: I agree entirely. Long live bornagain77.Truth Will Set You Free
May 23, 2018
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bornagain77 @24, BA, you should keep posting and, repeat posts for all the reasons you mentioned. In fact, I wish you would post some of your great material on other web sites. More than once I have been in an evolution debate with atheists on other sites and wished bornagain77 would start adding devastating-to-atheists posts to the discussion.harry
May 23, 2018
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So why did you ask about unicorns?
Bob O'H, Because the Laws of Conservation didn't prevent me from doing it. Andrewasauber
May 23, 2018
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Nothing — non-being — has no causal capability.
This has not yet been confirmed by observation and testing.
Were there ever utter nothing, such would forever obtain.
ok, but what would cause utter nothing to forever obtain?Mung
May 23, 2018
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per 19, Moreover, there is new information in the current post at 15,, new information that was not in the 2014 post (for instance the Bruce Gordon quote and the interaction free experiment). Rather than just repeating the same stuff over and over, I seek to make my arguments stronger and stronger over time by adding better references and deleting weaker references. And if we are going to start griping about repeating stuff, I want to air my grievances against the atheists on UD who repeat the same lies over and over again after they have been exhaustively addressed and refuted. I would certainly like to see, not only trolling, but such repetitive trolling by Darwinian atheists, come to an end on UD.bornagain77
May 23, 2018
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I like Bob.Mung
May 23, 2018
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Oh hi, asauber! So why did you ask about unicorns? I assume there was a reason (other than to hurl abuse).Bob O'H
May 23, 2018
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Of final note, I find it a bit ironic that the only other people who have ever griped about my (and kf’s) posts are atheists. Strange bedfellows.
Requests against repetition and volume in posting format to the source are valid. So is a response towards explanation and justification. I don't feel this last portion was productive, though.LocalMinimum
May 23, 2018
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The best way to counter the idiocy of evolutionists and materialists is to fling their fecal matter right back at them.
FourFaces, Bob O'H covers himself in it. He doesn't know the difference. Andrewasauber
May 23, 2018
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groovamos, despite your grievances that I reposted something from 2014, I posted that information for newcomers who are not familiar with the material. ,,, I find the material very informative particularly for a debate that is focused precisely on the exact cause for the universe. This site is more than what you personally want to read. It is about educating newcomers as well.,, In fact, I hold education, not personal entertainment, to be far and away more important. Of final note, I find it a bit ironic that the only other people who have ever griped about my (and kf's) posts are atheists. Strange bedfellows.bornagain77
May 23, 2018
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re 17: Thank you for pointing that out. I've noticed the same thing as well. Most of those long posts are copy-and-pastes from previously written and published documents, and often have been posted here multiple times.jdk
May 23, 2018
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I have a request to bornagain77 and to Barry. Large chunks of the post @15 are lifted directly from posts by the same contributor on past threads, for example here: https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/an-interview-with-quantum-physicist-and-consciousness-researcher-henry-stapp/ I have long assumed this about these posts and thought to check it with google. It seems as if contributor has a master document from where big chunks are repeatedly lifted and patched in here. I'm always having to scroll and scroll to get past these posts to get to stuff that is novel. Is there some way to convince you guys that this is a drag on the discussions here? BTW I just contributed to the website which I encourage everyone to do.groovamos
May 23, 2018
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Vilenkin's idea seems to be: (positive energy associated with matter) - (negative energy associated with gravity) = zero = "nothing" This can only be true if being can be something negative. This notion seems nonsensical to me. Something exists or does not exist — equals zero —, but it cannot be the case that something exists in a negative way. One cannot make an apple "nothing" by subtracting a "negative apple." Negative apples is an incoherent concept.Origenes
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