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Image result for yoga mat public domain image From Philip Ball at New Scientist:

The idea that we create reality seems absurd. But an audacious new take on quantum theory suggests the fundamental laws of nature emerge from our own experiences

That woo-woo has been around forever, or at least since the last remnants of the Stone Age. It was one of the things people had to fight, to get science off the ground.

Now some are contemplating a mind-boggling alternative: that a coherent description of reality, with all its quantum quirks, can arise from nothing more than random subjective experiences. It looks like the “perspective of a madman”, says the author of this bold new theory, because it compels us to abandon any notion of fundamental physical laws. But if it stands up, it would not only resolve some deep puzzles about quantum mechanics, it would turn our deepest preconceptions about reality itself inside out. (paywall) More.

Many naturalists must be looking for that exit just now. After all, nature, as defined today, cannot be all there is. Science demonstrates that.

Quantum mechanics doesn’t tell us that we make everything real unless that is the only way we can see it.

So why does scientism always seem to end up in mysticism’s illegal booze can?

Note: We extend a sincere apology to the manufacturers of yoga mats, most of whose occupants have more sense than what we describe above.

See also: Biophysicist Kirk Durston: Canada’s governor general as a highly visible example of scientism

and

Post-modern science: The illusion of consciousness sees through itself

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Good, lock 'em up.kairosfocus
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Nov. 24, 2017: Interpol: 40 human traffickers arrested, 236 children savedWilliam J Murray
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chirpie, chirpie, chirp . . .kairosfocus
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OOPSIE -- cross-threaded, corrected. KFkairosfocus
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PPPS: Going further:
Former CIA director William Colby, giving a warning to his friend senator John Decamp (not an insider;was a Vietnam war hero who got elected with strong local roots ), in regards to his campaign to get to the bottom of the Franklin Savings&Loan scandal: ”What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do any­thing about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. That is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face. You have done your part. You have tried to expose the evil and wrongdoing. It has hurt you terribly. But it has not killed you up to this point. I am telling you, get out of this before it does.”
Okay, let us ask ourselves just what has been going on, across the board. Remember, the per aspect form design inference explanatory filter gives us a powerful tool for spotting when it does not make sense to attribute to blind chance and/or mechanical necessity filtered through the tendency to see faces or the like in toast or wood grain or clouds or whatever.kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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PPS: Let me take a further slice from the page as I read on down it. After the Weinstein revelations, we cannot simply dismiss the point made below:
[–]LawOfAttraction33[S] 186 points 4 years ago I understand that my discussion on the Dutroux affair does not validate any of the claims in the title of this post. It is only one small piece of the puzzle. It shows how, from the bottom level of police work to the top level of prosecution politics, people complicit with pedophiles can be placed into key positions to ensure that investigations never bear fruit. Now I will briefly highlight pedophile rings that operated parallel to Dutrouxs during the same time period, again in which no high level officials were brought to justice, although they undeniable participated, to illustrate how widespread the child porn and child abuse epidemic is. I will then move on to more important cases. In Latvia, three top officials, including the Prime Minister, were named in connection with a pedophile ring in which 2000 children in the country were abused 24, LA TIMES. An online ring known as Wonderland was busted and yielded 750,000 images of children 25 BBC. From the article [25]: “Wonderland originated in the United States but also operated in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and Britain.” None of the men charged in relation to the ring served more than 30 months in jail, and only two were put on the sex offenders registry (in the year 2000!!!) 26, GUARDIAN UK. A child porn ring in Mexico was busted and said to have thousands of clients in the United States 27, BBC. Child porn videos reportedly made a Russian ring 410 million dollars being sold in Germany, Italy, and the United States 28, GUARDIAN UK. A Dutch ring was discovered in which images and videos of abuse of infants were circulated 29, NY TIMES. A magistrate leading an investigation into an Italian pedophile ring denounced what he called a “paedophile lobby” of powerful politicians which he said openly obstructed his investigation 30, INDEPENDANT UK. French police arrested 250 people associated with child pornography within a year of the Dutroux affair [31, NY TIMES](http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/14/world/french-police-arrest-250-men-linked-to-child-pornography-ring.html (CONTINUED)
kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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F/N: Without endorsing, this should at least give us pause: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/ It looks like a horrific "White March" case criminal network in Belgium, Saville in the UK and other matters may point to some possibilities we should at least consider. KF PS: Let us read, and let us weep: http://articles.latimes.com/1996-09-02/news/mn-39974_1_death-penalty
Kidnap Deaths Plunge Belgium Into Guilt Crime: Some say nation's pride, inaction share blame for abducted girls' demise. September 02, 1996|DEAN E. MURPHY | TIMES STAFF WRITER LIEGE, Belgium — "We were only eight years old, and we had lots of dreams. We thought life would be beautiful. You grown-ups, prepare us a better world." --Memorial placard written by the parents of Melissa Russo and Julie Lejeune . . . . The sexual abuse and killing of two third-graders would break the heart of almost anyone, but the case of Melissa Russo and Julie Lejeune has done much more. Their horror has turned an entire country inside out, at once uniting Belgium's disparate cultures in grief and shattering their faith in the decency of their shared society. "We were saying from the very beginning that Melissa and Julie were probably in Belgium," said Russo, 36, who helped distribute 10,000 posters of the missing girls in this tiny country and abroad. "But everyone said such a thing was not possible here. We stood alone." Melissa and Julie not only died the most horrible of deaths on Belgian soil but did so after their parents' desperate pleas for help were dismissed by the authorities and nearly everyone else. In the aftermath, practically no one in this country of 10 million, unaccustomed to such national trauma, is able to look Gino Russo straight in his tearful eyes. "There is a lot of rage right now over what happened to these two girls, but it comes partly from a deep sense of guilt," said Michele Hirsch, a Brussels attorney who has handled pedophile cases. "We all feel culpable. Maybe if more of us believed like the parents did, the girls would still be alive." Belgium is a country where scandals typically erupt from politics and its linguistic divide--the contentious line that separates Dutch-speaking Flemish provinces from the French-speaking Walloons--not from society's failure to protect its most vulnerable members. Violent crime is relatively low, and pedophilia is regarded as the scourge of sandy beaches in Southeast Asia, not the wooded flatlands of Western Europe. But the case of Melissa and Julie has suddenly changed all that. An angry and traumatized public has forgotten its language war and vented its collective fury on the system, blaming the police, the courts and the political establishment for having failed the two girls--and the rest of Belgium with them. "I never imagined that something so horrible could happen on our own doorstep," said Marie-Joelle Bouzet, whose daughter, Elisabeth Brichet, has been missing since 1989, when the 12-year-old went to visit a neighborhood friend. "We have to keep up the public pressure long enough to force the politicians to change it all." The indignation has grown even greater in recent days as speculation mounts that politics was involved from the beginning in the still-unfolding pedophilia scandal, which already has led to 10 arrests. Russo, Bouzet and others allege that well-connected suspects have been afforded "political protection" by authorities, and a highly regarded children's activist, Marie-France Botte, claims that the Justice Ministry is sitting on a politically sensitive list of customers of pedophile videotapes produced by Melissa and Julie's accused abductors.
kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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Oh dear. Have you fallen for that "Q" nonsense WJM? Ha ha.daveS
November 24, 2017
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WJM and DS: This is more like it: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/24/child-sex-trafficker-slammed-472-year-sentence-colorado/ KFkairosfocus
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Hm, It seems that the certificate was submitted by Ms Ah'Nee herself, a WND reader, to one Jerome Corsi, whose name I'm sure you recognize. Not that there's anything wrong with that, to be sure, but it would have been nice if a person with his background was not in the chain of custody. In watching and re-watching parts of the video and searching, I've found there is a vast amount of discussion about this issue on the internet (including some surprising doubt of this potential forgery on r/The_Donald). I will continue reading through it when time permits.daveS
November 24, 2017
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KF, Be sure and also check out The Truth Has No Bias thread and the Op Storm Update thread in that main meme link for context about the history of the meme and broader information concerning events now playing out around the world.William J Murray
November 24, 2017
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DS, from the remarks it seems nine birth certificates were sourced and especially used in analysis by the Italian group, this one comes from 1995. I believe a call went out for comparatives. All of this fits with the moth to flame game. KFkairosfocus
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WJM, thanks just got it. KF PS: Sobering. That PZ- 69 pic link gives me pause.kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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Es58, The Galapagos finches from the 80's have shown such inter-species hybridisation that the whole narrative has been in doubt. And a new species in a few generations suggests that something is wrong with the definition or how it is applied. KF PS: Here we go, inadvertent money shot in the linked:
There are at least 15 species of Darwin's finches, so named because their diversity helped famed naturalist Charles Darwin figure out his theory of evolution by natural selection - that is, mutations can help species become better adapted to their environment, and be passed down to subsequent generations. It's two of these species that came together in what is called species hybridisation to create an entirely new one.
If species are hybridising to form new ones, what's the difference from the variety of dog breeds?kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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KF, Sent you an email.William J Murray
November 24, 2017
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OT. https://sciencealert.com/darwin-s-finches-evolve-into-new-species-in-real-time-two-generations-galapagoses58
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KF, Do you know what the provenance of the Ah'Nee certificate is? How did these investigators obtain it?daveS
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F/N: Given how today's secularists get the vapours when the decalogue is mentioned, this from Wikipedia speaking against known ideological interest is almost amusing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_book The Doom Book, Code of Alfred or Legal Code of Ælfred the Great was the code of laws ("dooms" being laws or judgments) compiled by Alfred the Great (c. 893 AD). Alfred codified three prior Saxon codes - those of Æthelberht of Kent (c. 602 AD), Ine of Wessex (c. 694 AD) and Offa of Mercia (c. 786 AD) - to which he prefixed the Ten Commandments of Moses and incorporated rules of life from the Mosaic Code and the Christian code of ethics. The title "Doom book" (originally dom-boc or dom-boke) comes from d?m (pronounced "dome") which is the Anglo-Saxon word meaning judgment or law — as in Alfred's admonishment to "Doom very evenly! Do not doom one doom to the rich; another to the poor! Nor doom one doom to your friend; another to your foe!"[1] This reflects Mosaic Law, which says "You shall do no injustice in judgment! You shall not be partial to the poor; nor defer to the great! But you are to judge your neighbour fairly!" (Leviticus 19:15). The Christian theologian F. N. Lee [ --> cf here: http://www.dr-fnlee.org/king-alfred-the-great-and-our-common-law/never mind Wikipedia's dismissive note] ]extensively documented Alfred the Great's work of collecting the law codes from the three Christian Saxon kingdoms and compiling them into his Doom Book.[2] Lee details how Alfred incorporated the principles of the Mosaic law into his Code, and how this Code of Alfred became the foundation for the Common Law. In the book's extensive prologue, Alfred summarises the Mosaic and Christian codes. Dr Michael Treschow, UBC Faculty of Creative and Critical Studies, reviewed how Alfred laid the foundation for the Spirit of Mercy in his code,[3] stating that the last section of the Prologue not only describes "a tradition of Christian law from which the law code draws but also it grounds secular law upon Scripture, especially upon the principle of mercy". The law code contains some laws that may seem bizarre by modern standards, such as: "If a man unintentionally kills another man by letting a tree fall on him, the tree shall be given to the kinsmen of the slain."
The bottom-line is, we see a day in which narratives are imposed and ruthlessly enforced with scant regard to the truth and the right. That is of course the underlying concern in the OP. KF PS: The little clip from Lev 19:15 omits a very telling context:
Lev 19:15 ‘You shall not do injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor show a preference for the great, but judge your neighbor fairly. 16 You shall not go around as a gossip among your people, and you are not to act against the life of your neighbor [with slander or false testimony]; I am the Lord. 17 ‘You shall not hate your brother in your heart; you may most certainly rebuke your neighbor, but shall not incur sin because of him. 18 You shall not take revenge nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor (acquaintance, associate, companion) as yourself; I am the Lord. [AMP]
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WJM, sobering point. And while I have no intent to go on to debates on the PZ-gate issue, is there some place where there is a sober, sound summary of evidence that supports what you seem to suggest, there is something there that we should be concerned about? I know there is an issue independent of such, as we SHOULD have a long list of speakeasies busted and notable people caught too, not just the obvious use of the issue to attack the Roman Catholic Church as though it were the main locus of trouble. I am of course even more concerned about the state of major media, given ever so many issues and the ways a narrative is imposed and defended. To pick just one, the way the decalogue is treated, you would never imagine that the start point for English common law, Alfred's Book of Dooms, quite literally starts law with the decalogue and then with the wider torah and elements of the NT including the Golden Rule and the Acts 15 AD 49 Church Council in Jerusalem, speaking of nations that have taken baptism as in effect coming into that framework. This is a crucial bit of history, and it sets up what comes after. KFkairosfocus
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KF, Note that DS doesn't have an hour to view the result of years of investigation and analysis by leaders in their field, all of whom were Obama supporters, and provide a very accessible point-by-point slideshow that clearly demonstrates the fraudulent nature of the document. Instead, he makes implications about Arpaio's motivations and sweeps it all aside as "not plausible". I suspect the same is true of DS' dismissal of pizzagate due to his obvious ignorance of actual nature of the subject. He accepts whatever his usual sources tell him and then his personal bias engine weighs the information and concludes that it is way too far out of the comfort zone to even consider, so it is dismissed with prejudice. However, to be fair, it's not just DS - that's most of the population. Also, the media makes it virtually impossible to even discuss certain topics in public without it ruining your life. Narratives that are demonstrable fabrications are guarded with vicious tenacity by those in power.William J Murray
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F/N3: Moths to the flames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfo1jJCBrk -- notice how Anderson Cooper plays the marginalisation game and announces the "consensus" -- scare quotes -- as though it were beyond any responsible question. Also note the contemporary debate here on a NJ court case: http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/ and how the issues play out KFkairosfocus
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F/N2: Look from 13:10 or so on for a few minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM KFkairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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F/N: Notice the background colour, here: https://web.archive.org/web/20110504140055/http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/BirthCertificateHighResolution.jpg i/l/o moths and flames in the wider context. KFkairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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PS: I thought of a test. What proportion of people understand the difference between liberty under just law and licence? The consequences of increasingly imagining the latter is the real freedom? (How many have been seriously taught Plato's Parable of the mutinous ship of state? How many pulpits have carefully expounded Ac 27 and drawn out its relevance to community or corporate governance? And more? Does this not indict our education systems?)kairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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DS, I think, more than a simple red herring (even as a strawman caricature is a special form of RH distractor), moth to a deadly flame. Especially as "tin foil hat conspiracy theorist" and the like lurk as ways to marginalise and polarise the community. I think it is no accident that polarisation has grown ever more intense in recent years, even as our civilisation has become ever more confused, even suicidal. For this last, look at the demographics numbers. Voting patterns turning on manipulated narratives amplified by irresponsible but hitherto dominant media add fuel to the fire. And meanwhile, we can see clear evidence of cover-ups, media shielding, serial sexual predatory behaviour among the powerful, the deliberate distortion and undermining of marriage and family as well as even personal identity (100+ "genders" most of which make no coherent sense and NOT counting male and female), with a holocaust in progress. We are outdoing Sodom. KFkairosfocus
November 24, 2017
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KF, I will try to get to the rest of the Zebest article and the "five blocks" tomorrow. I think that if this higher resolution version of the image exists, that is significant in that it suggests that the allegedly fraudulent pdf is not the "original". And in fact, the paper version (which people have seen firsthand and reported on) was used to create the high-res scan and low-res pdf. Of course this is all consistent with your theory that the pdf was released as a red herring distractor.daveS
November 23, 2017
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DS, I really wonder how this thread is way off on this tangent. I simply say that you need to account for the second copy on a blue background, for artifacts such as the cluster of five matching blocks to the Ah'Nee [sp?] certificate and more. That is enough to in context of 2011 vs 2004 warrant all I need: reason to be concerned that this is a moths to a flame distractor. Meanwhile, while we are busy rushing up to meet an advancing German R wing on the Belgian plains, seven Panzer divisions are cutting through in the rear at Sedan and are heading for the channel, with Rommel's Ghost Division in the lead. So, I again ask: where are the speakeasies and the busts? Why do we not understand what fascism really is, or what an Alinsky school "community organiser" is, given the agit-prop issue? Why do we so often see dubious narratives imposed in the teeth of credible evidence to the contrary, from JFK's head snapping back, to the second Tonkin Gulf attack, to serious questions on what really went down in Las Vegas recently, to much more. Why are we not recognising that the single worst holocaust in history proceeds apace with another million victims globally every week? Why are we content to allow law, government, policing, media, education and much more to be entangled in enabling behaviour for a pattern of agendas and pushes that are bringing our civilisation over the cliff? KF PS: I am not demanding agreement, only I suggest there is reason for serious-minded people to take a different view. So that, it is questionable to see the rush to distraction, distortion, dismissal and denigration. I fear, the truth about our civilisation is far uglier than we imagine.kairosfocus
November 23, 2017
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KF, Yes, the second link to the Arduini article is what I meant. Do you agree that the higher resolution scan (along with the statements of Hawaii state officials and journalists) indicate there is a paper document on file that is consistent with the lower resolution pdf which Zebest analyzed?daveS
November 23, 2017
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PPS: You have a second article linked at 80. It dismisses and in my view fails to fairly evaluate a fairly wide range of evidence. E.g. why weren't the layers simply flattened as part of cleaning up a document as this seems to be a routine step? One consequence of the narrow focus on dismissing an individual comes out in the video linked by WJM, where two separate sets of experts in document analysis do find specific reasons to infer manipulation. Recall, there is a second document, with a blue background. Likewise, there is a suggested source and esp. a group of five apparent digital transfers. PPPS: I took enough of this up despite knowing the moth to flame distractor game, precisely because someone needs to point out that that game can be going on also. It is highly unlikely that c 2011 someone in a senior position would put up a fraud with the kind of readily detected flaws that led to exposure in 2004. If something is present that would draw moths to a flame that serves polarisation and marginalisation, the best explanation for such is that it was there for that exact purpose. For, "conspiracy theorist" and "tinfoil hat" etc are near synonyms. It is time for us to realise conspiracies and manipulation backed by power and money are common, that they serve agendas, that they may be very sophisticated and successful, and that cumulatively they ruin sound community leading to marches of folly. In the context of the above, the issue is, there is reason to conclude that sexual perversities and abuses are common across our world including in circles of power. But -- with notable exceptions -- we are not seeing the pattern of busts and cases that we should, though a rash is now emerging. At the same time, false accusation that destroys is also real (and is often a tactic used by powerful conspirators), and we need to therefore hold things in balance and seek adequate warrant for where we come out. In my view, one such conclusion is that the absence of busts of speakeasies etc is a sign that the power games are suppressing things. Indeed, Weinstein's case points to how this has clearly happened for many years.kairosfocus
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