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Trying to subtly deflate Karl Popper’s falsification—again

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Here’s a recent attempt to cast doubt:

What makes something science, or pseudoscience? The distinction seems obvious, but attempts at a demarcation criterion – from Karl Popper’s ‘falsifiability’ to Irving Langmuir’s ‘pathological science’ – invariably fail, argues Michael D. Gordin. …

Here, I will focus on determining what counts as a “pseudoscience.” Since being scientific is arguably the highest status our culture can assign to a knowledge claim, the contested boundary between things that we consider science and those other things that look like sciences but just don’t quite make it is especially fraught. The name for the puzzle in this context is the “demarcation problem,” a term coined by philosopher Karl Popper, and his proposed solution — the “falsifiability” demarcation criterion — remains the most famous

. Michael D. Gordin, “Making sense of nonsense” at IAI.TV

Philosopher and photographer Laszlo Bencze comments,

Not a good article. It claims that the biggest problem with Popper’s thought is:

“whether it parses the sciences in the right ways. Indeed, this is a test we want any conceivable demarcation criterion to pass. We want our criterion to recognize as scientific those theories which are very generally accepted as hallmarks of contemporary science, like quantum physics, natural selection, and plate tectonics.”

Hmmm. What does “parsing sciences in the right way” mean? As the next sentence explains, it means no more than never discrediting anything that is “generally accepted” as science like “natural selection”.

Goodness gracious. This is exactly what Popper sought to debunk. His entire philosophy was founded upon not trusting authority—that which is generally accepted—and examining scientific theories critically on their own merits both logical and observational. So far from carrying us “beyond” Popper, this article asks us to regress.

The war on falsification is like the war on math. Causes with nonsense or destruction at their heart cannot succeed while such values remain in place.

See also: The progressive war on science takes dead aim at math

and

Inference Review Did NOT Set Out To Make A Fool Of Cosmologist Adam Becker. Becker does not like Popper’s falsification.

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Sometimes supporting your own point of view falsifies another point of view. Intelligent Design claims that natural selection and any other blind and mindless processes are incapable of producing any bacterial flagellum. Therefore anyone capable of supporting the claim that blind and mindless processes are capable, they have falsified that claim and taken away a key argument for ID. It would be devastating to ID.ET
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News, falsifiability is an important test but not the only one. More broadly, we want empirical testability and adequacy, coherence and balanced explanatory power -- neither simplistic nor an ad hoc patchwork. A tall order. KFkairosfocus
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as to, "parsing sciences in the right way means no more than never discrediting anything that is “generally accepted” as science like “natural selection", Well, it seems someone forgot to tell Prof. Larry Moran, via his championing of 'neutral theory', to never discredit natural selection as 'accepted science', i.e. "'Darwinism asserts that natural selection is the driving force of evolutionary change. It is the claim of the neutral theory, on the other hand, that the majority of evolutionary change is due to chance.'
Austin Hughes and Neutral Theory - Laurence A. Moran - June 19, 2017 Excerpt: Originally proposed by Motoo Kimura, Jack King, and Thomas Jukes, the neutral theory of molecular evolution is inherently non-Darwinian. Darwinism asserts that natural selection is the driving force of evolutionary change. It is the claim of the neutral theory, on the other hand, that the majority of evolutionary change is due to chance. http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/06/austin-hughes-and-neutral-theory.html
So there you have it, Darwinists, who are familiar with the mathematics of population genetics, are now reduced to arguing that all the wonderful design, and jaw dropping complexity, that we see in biology is the result of pure chance with natural selection playing a very limited role, if any role at all, Just how badly natural selection, (the supposed 'designer substitute), has been 'falsified' by the mathematics of population genetics is touched on in the following article,
The waiting time problem in a model hominin population – 2015 Sep 17 John Sanford, Wesley Brewer, Franzine Smith, and John Baumgardner Excerpt: the waiting time for the fixation of a “string-of-one” is by itself problematic (Table 2). Waiting a minimum of 1.5 million years (realistically, much longer), for a single point mutation is not timely adaptation in the face of any type of pressing evolutionary challenge. This is especially problematic when we consider that it is estimated that it only took six million years for the chimp and human genomes to diverge by over 5 % [1]. ,,, While fixing one point mutation is problematic, our simulations show that the fixation of two co-dependent mutations is extremely problematic – requiring at least 84 million years (Table 2). This is ten-fold longer than the estimated time required for ape-to-man evolution.,,, Certainly the creation and fixation of a string of three (requiring at least 380 million years) would be extremely untimely (and trivial in effect), in terms of the evolution of modern man. ,,, When we increase the hominin population from 10,000 to 1 million (our current upper limit for these types of experiments), the waiting time for creating a string of five is only reduced from two billion to 482 million years. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4573302/
Thus, with Natural selection being tossed to the side, by population genetics, as the explanation for the 'wonderful design' we see in life, Darwinists did not accept such a devastating finding as an outright falsification for their theory, (as they should have done if they were truly being scientific), but instead are now reduced to arguing that the 'wonderful design' we see in life is, basically, the result of pure chance with natural selection now playing a very negligible role if any role at all. . Even Richard Dawkins himself finds the claim that chance alone can build such wonderful design to be 'absolutely inconceivable'. In the following video Dawkins states that the 'appearance of design', “cannot come about by chance. It's absolutely inconceivable that you could get anything as complicated or well designed as a modern bird or a human or a hedgehog coming about by chance.'
4:30 minute mark: "It cannot come about by chance. It's absolutely inconceivable that you could get anything as complicated or well designed as a modern bird or a human or a hedgehog coming about by chance. That's absolutely out.,,, It's out of the question.,,, So where (does the appearance of design)) it come from? The process of gradual evolution by natural selection.” Richard Dawkins - From a Frog to a Prince - video https://youtu.be/ClleN8ysimg?t=267
To put it even more bluntly than Richard Dawkins did, Jay Homnick states, “Once you allow the intellect to consider that an elaborate organism with trillions of microscopic interactive components can be an accident… you have essentially “lost your mind.”
It’s Really Not Rocket Science – Granville Sewell – November 16, 2015 Excerpt: “It is not enough to say that design is a more likely scenario to explain a world full of well-designed things. It strikes me as urgent to insist that you not allow your mind to surrender the absolute clarity that all complex and magnificent things were made that way. Once you allow the intellect to consider that an elaborate organism with trillions of microscopic interactive components can be an accident… you have essentially “lost your mind.” Jay Homnick – American Spectator 2005 http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/11/it_really_isnt100911.html
Contrary to what the proponents of neutral theory may want to believe, with natural selection being falsified as the supposed 'designer substitute', then the explanation for the design we see in life does not then become 'well then chance must have done it all by itself', but instead the explanation for the 'wonderful design' we see in life instead becomes what it readily appears to be to us. As Richard Sternberg stated, "things appear designed because they are designed.”
“Darwinism provided an explanation for the appearance of design, and argued that there is no Designer — or, if you will, the designer is natural selection. If that’s out of the way — if that (natural selection) just does not explain the evidence — then the flip side of that is, well, things appear designed because they are designed.” Richard Sternberg – Living Waters documentary Whale Evolution vs. Population Genetics – Richard Sternberg and Paul Nelson – (excerpt from Living Waters video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csd3M4bc0Q
Of humorous note, and as Dr. William Dembski noted, the term 'natural selection' itself is an oxymoron:
“intelligent design is a thoroughly apt phrase, signifying that design is inferred because an intelligent agent has done what only intelligent agents can do, namely, make a choice. If intelligent design is a thoroughly apt phrase, the same cannot be said for the phrase natural selection. The second word of the phrase natural selection, is of course a synonym for choice. Indeed the l-e-c in selection is a variant of the l-e-g that in the Latin lego means to choose or select, and that also appears as l-i-g in intelligence. Natural selection is therefore an oxymoron. It attributes the power to choose, which properly belongs to intelligent agents, to natural causes, which inherently lack the power to choose.” – William Dembski – Science and the Myth of Progress – pg 294 – 2003
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