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This question was posed in one of the earlier threads on this blog. According to the following article, “Scott describes herself as atheist but does not discount the importance of spirituality.” Scott never asked the San Francisco Chronicle to retract this designation of atheism.

EUGENIE SCOTT
Berkeley scientist leads fight to stop teaching of creationism
Monica Lam, Special to The Chronicle
Friday, February 7, 2003
©2003 San Francisco Chronicle | Feedback

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/07/EB75914.DTL

One morning in September, Eugenie Scott of Berkeley got a long-distance phone call from an alarmed parent in Cobb County, Ga. The board of education there was considering allowing creationism to be taught side-by-side with evolution as an alternative, scientific theory on human origins.

Scott sat at her desk, beneath a portrait of Charles Darwin in an office littered with books about evolution, models of hominid skulls and a map of the human genome, and typed up a speech she has delivered many times before. While students’ religious views should be respected, she wrote, schools should allow only science to be taught in science classes.

Two hours before the board’s vote, Scott e-mailed the speech to the parent to deliver to the board. But that board had already put disclaimers against evolution in the science textbooks, saying “evolution is a theory, not a fact” and that it should be “critically considered.”

Scott, the director of the National Center for Science Education in Oakland, has been fighting this particular battle for more than 15 years, and it has taken her around the country — from small towns in California to the deep South.

Her opponents are parents, politicians and even teachers who want creationism — the belief that God created human beings as literally described in the Bible — taught in public schools. This despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court has issued numerous decisions disallowing the teaching of creationism in public schools because it is a religious view and would violate the separation of church and state.

Scott’s work often takes her into the Bible Belt — the Midwest and the South — but closer to home, a recent conference in San Francisco on “intelligent design” attracted 200 college students and adults. Here Scott was confronted by the relatively new attack on evolution: scientists looking for scientific evidence to prove creationism is true.

While organizers insisted that the conference was about science — creation science — not religion, almost all the speakers were creationists. The intelligent design theory says that life on Earth is so complex and intricate that only an intelligent entity could have designed it.

“What we call creation science makes no reference to the Bible,” said Duane Gish, vice president of the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego.

“It says there are two possible explanations for the origin of the universe and living things: theistic, supernatural creation by an intelligent being, or nontheistic, mechanistic evolutionary theory that posits no goal and no purpose in the evolutionary process. We just happen to be here.”

“I think what bothers me so much of the time,” Scott said, “is they take the data and theory and distort it. They must know they’re distorting.”

But intelligent design theory has gained a lot of momentum, Scott said, because it allows religion, labeled as science, to sneak into schools through the back door.

But another opponent, Phillip Johnson, a Jefferson E. Peyser professor of law, emeritus at UC Berkeley’s Boalt Hall School of Law and author of “Darwin on Trial,” said Darwinism is all about religion.

“Its (evolution’s) impact is cultural,” he said. “It’s impact is it puts God out of reality. I am not bringing religion into the sacred precinct of science. The biologists are already neck deep in religion.”

The Ohio Board of Education recently considered including intelligent design theory in the science curriculum, but after a long debate voted against it. Scott and the National Center for Science Education advised the opponents of the proposal and counts it as another victory. However, Johnson also considers it a victory because the ruling did not exclude teaching intelligent design.

Don Kennedy, a Stanford University biology professor and editor in chief of the journal Science, said Scott has been effective because she’s knowledgeable about evolutionary theory.

“She’s the central force in contesting creationist claims by bringing good science to bear,” he said.

Scott grew up in Wisconsin and studied physical anthropology. She first heard of creationism in 1971, when she was a graduate student and, fascinated by what she thought was a rarity, started collecting literature and information on the movement.

Later, while teaching physical anthropology at the University of Kentucky in 1980, she led her first successful battle, blocking a Kentucky school board from including creationism in the curriculum.

In 1987, Scott was hired as the founding director of the nonprofit National Center for Science Education, the only national organization dedicated to “defending the teaching of evolution in public schools.”

In 2001, Scott’s organization recorded incidents in 43 school districts and five state boards of education in which the teaching of evolution was challenged. Legislation promoting the teaching of creationism was introduced in eight state legislatures and in the U.S. Senate, according to the center.

“She’s a front-line soldier in this war,” said Al Janulaw, a retired schoolteacher and spokesman for the California Science Teachers Association. “She’s everywhere in the country fixing things.” The association, a membership organization of K-12 and university educators, gave Scott its Margaret Nicholson Distinguished Service Award in 2002.

Scott gave up her career as a scientist to pursue activism because she says she sees science as fundamental to a proper education.

“You can’t really be scientifically literate if you don’t understand evolution,” Scott said. “And you can’t be an educated member of society if you don’t understand science.”

Scott describes herself as atheist but does not discount the importance of spirituality.

“Science is a limited way of knowing, looking at just the natural world and natural causes,” she said. “There are a lot of ways human beings understand the universe — through literature, theology, aesthetics, art or music.”

One of Scott’s biggest victories was in Kansas. In 1999, the Kansas State Board of Education voted to remove evolution from the testing standards, generating national headlines and prompting a campaign to preserve the standards. The grass-roots group, Kansas Citizens for Science, called on Scott for advice.

“We’d never been through this before,” said Liz Craig, who helped lead KCFS’ effort. Scott provided reference materials, people to contact and a shoulder to cry on, Craig said.

Scott also traveled to Kansas for several speaking engagements. In her earnest, soft-spoken voice, she tried to explain to parents and teachers that science and evolution are not anti-religion. “Students don’t have to accept evolution,” Scott frequently has said. “But they should learn it — as it is understood by scientists.”

Two years later, a new board was elected, and it restored evolution to the school standards.

The Kansas fight drew national attention to Scott’s work and brought in additional funding. With a spacious, loft-style office on 40th Street in Oakland, NCSE’s annual budget is $500,000, and Scott recently received a raise in her salary to $70,000.

Hanging next to photos of her husband and daughter are awards and cards from scientists and teachers around the country expressing their gratitude.

In 2002, she received a public service award from the National Science Board, which governs the National Science Foundation, to go along with the CSTA honor.

Still, there are many smaller conflicts that are beyond her reach, many of which involve individual students. In the spring, a seventh-grader in Edmond, Okla., was branded “Monkey Girl” by her classmates because she wanted to learn about evolution.

NCSE wrote a letter on the girl’s behalf, asking the principal and the teacher to respect her request and to curb the peer harassment, but to no avail. The family eventually moved to another school district.

Over the years, Scott has found her fight to be much less about science and more about politics. “I learned very early on that it’s necessary but not sufficient for scientists to go to school board meetings and say, ‘We shouldn’t be teaching creationism,’ ” Scott said. “Being right doesn’t mean it’ll pass.

“Public schools are where the next generation of leaders are educated and where cultural exchange will take place,” Scott said. And Scott will be there, fighting to ensure that students are taught evolution.

It’s scientific For more information on the National Center for Science Education, visit www.ncseweb.org or contact Eugenie Scott at 420 40th St., Suite 2, Oakland, CA 94609-2509; (510) 601-7203; ncseoffice@ncseweb.org.

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One more thing, as far "winning over the scientific community" goes. Look at it from my perspective. There already exists a large body of scientific research which completely and utterly demolishes evolutionary theory from inside out and from top to bottom. Yet the fact is most "scientists" or atheists refuse to accept that research or even to study it because they think and rightly so that the only possible alternative to evolution is God. Since they reject any possibility of God they therefore do not even consider the arguments against evolution as having any value without even reading them. They are 100% intellectually dishonest and prejudiced. So I think that going about presenting what I consider to be the truth to people who have a mental bloc against God is best done by showing them their own intellectual dishonesty and prejudices. They claim that anti-evolutionists are prejudiced against science and that they are champions of reason and free thinking. Yet the truth is that they are extremely prejudiced and have an irrational mental bloc against the bugababoo "supernatural" potential of the universe as revealed by science itself.mentok
November 12, 2005
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cambion ask yourself this: What value does evolutionary theory have and why is it so important to people who want it force taught onto children? If you are honest with yourself you will conclude that evolutionary theory has no real value. It may fill some kind of emotional need in atheists i.e it serves to give them a sense of "knowing" where life came from, but apart from that it serves no purpose. Except of course for the main purpose it is used for i.e to try and discredit belief in God. I think you are not really aware or you are not being honest when you there are only a few anti-religionists in the evolution camp. As yet I would say easily 99% of all evolutionists I have communicated with, which is many btw, all are strident anti-religionists. If people as you claim study evolution in order to understand the world around them ,then they would not be biased against the anti-evolution arguments. But in reality from my experience almost all evolutionists I have communicated with do not study evolution and they do not study the arguments against evolution. They simply accept the evolutionary paradigm which has been taught to them as absolute infallible truth since they were children, and then they have that fallacy re-enforced throughout their lives by academia and media outlets. They accept arguement from authority when it comes to evolution, authority being the holy all good and pure "scientific community". I don't know who you communicate with but from my extensive blogging and forum and website reading I have yet to meet an truly honest evolutionist. You may feel offended but ask yourself this; have I studied all the scientific arguments for and against evolution? If your answer is no then what right do you have to claim that evolution is good science and that ID is bad science? From my experience almost every evolution propagandist does so because they fear and loath religion. It always comes out in their discourse. They almost only discuss evolution so that they can feel they are fighting against what they see as harmful. You may disagree but I am not blind and I am not a fool.mentok
November 12, 2005
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"Yet the truth is that the evolutionists want to force feed their “religious belief” onto everyone through the public schools. Ardent evolutionists believe in a materialistic ontological world view. An ontological world view is really cognate with a religious belief because it explains the nature of reality." "Evolution is now used solely as a tool to discredit belief in a superior being/intelligence in our universe. It is a tautological weapon whose sole use is in trying to change the ontological perception of people for political and philosophical reasons." There may be a few strident evolutionary theory toting anti-religionists (i.e Dawkins). However, comments like these are no way to win over the 'scientific community.' They just further the divide, make people angry and don't accomplish anything. Almost all of those who study evolution do so, because like most other scientists, they are seeking to understand the world around them. This science vs. religion stuff is ridiculous. ((And I agree there has been a lot of angry rhetoric on the other side of the fence as well))cambion
November 12, 2005
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My only point is- the far left has transformed the meaning of the Constitution. There never was a wall of Separation between church and state- we know the founders invokved God all the time in public life, offering up days of Thanksgiving, days of prayer, public prayer in session during Congress and the meetings before the establishment of the government, and so on. They even had state churchs that were official to each particular state. Sadly, the left has taken hold of Jefferson's unofficial words to the Danbury Baptists and even twisted THEM. For, even when he spoke of a wall of Separation- he merely wanted to assure the Baptists in question that the government wouldn't allow the establishment of a national church of one Christian denomination over the other. Soon after he wrote the letter, Congress spent hundreds of thousands of government dollars to buy bibles for native Americans for missionary purposes- to try to convert them to Christianity. Point is- the US Supreme Court has perversely changed what Jefferson was saying and meant, and they have, with the gudiance of the far left, have distorted the meaning of the 1st Amendment- taking away freedoms that were once guaranteed, but are now considered nonexistant from the start. That, and they've created new rights of ot thin air. Heck- take the twisting of the Constitution by SCOTUS decisions that have lead to the conception of so-called 'provacy' rights as an example...these are rights which don't exist in the Constitution, yet are constantly used to support a nonexistant Constitutional right to sodomy, abortion, and other activities that Americans have no inherent Constitutional right to! On legal grounds, the secularists have no Constitutional ground to stand up- yet, because SCOTUS has twisted what the 1st Amendment says, and the far left has been implicit in this deception since the 1940's, the courts will rule accordingly. Precedent in this regard is sickening- the lemon test is as bogus as can be...it's UnConstitutional, and it's an afront to the rights of all Americans. And, even past all of this- the parents, who know and pay for the schools with their hard earned money, should be the ones who choose what is taught. That's democracy, like it or not. The left, of course, doesn't like it so much when it comes to this matter.jboze3131
November 12, 2005
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Josh, "no sane person could argue that teaching creationism would be establishing a national religion." I need to say that creationism (that is TRUE creationism, as opposed to ID slander) has no place being taught as science since God is not an empirical agent. I therefore oppose the teaching of creationism in public schools except in a theological or philosophical context. Many different beliefs are held in our nation. All should be respected, and none should receive special attention on their own regard. This is perhaps the biggest reason I have such interest in ID. Secularism is a religion that has taken hold of the public forum. Just look at the way Christ has been purged from "X-mas". The situation has degraded to the point that a teacher can be sued for saying the word "God" in any context that is not blasphemous. I consider my support of ID to be support for the ideologically neutral integrity of science as opposed to the ideologically slanted dogma of Secularism currently being preached from the pulpits of public school science classrooms. Davidcrandaddy
November 11, 2005
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Here is a quote from Eugenie in a April 2002 Science & Theology interview. A link to the whole interview is listed below "Currently, I would describe myself as a humanist or a nontheist." Science & Theology News http://www.stnews.org/Commentary-1835.htmlate_model
November 11, 2005
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Why have all of their denunciations of intelligent design been nothing but demagoguery? I have seen nothing of substance in any article which I have read wherein the author denounces intelligent design. Why have I not seen any complaint about this style of "preaching"? I call it preaching because it is indistinguishable from how most religious preachers attack something they don't like. The preacher "knows" the truth because the Holy Book tells him the truth and he is not to be questioned on the authenticity of his belief system. In the same exact way every single attack piece I have read has produced nothing in the way of discourse on the merits or lack thereof of intelligent design. Instead all I have read (which is quite a lot) are demagogic pronouncements about how "science" is being attacked, or "scientists" claim intelligent design is psuedo science, or "intelligent design is trying to force us back to the middle ages" and similar demagogic preaching. Those authors "know" the truth because they have been told by the high priests that the Holy Books on science are infallible and are not to be questioned. They brook no dissent in their inquisition upon non believers. Therefore there is no need to give a rational reason why we should hate everything intelligent design says or is all about. We simply should hate it because the high priests say it is cretinous, nuff said. Turn off your mind and float downstream, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. In truth those demagogues are supremely hypocritical in their rhetoric. They usually claim that those people who want to have a voice to scientifically question "the truth about evolution"; are simply out to push religion onto people. The evolutionist demagogues scream and jump up and down and get all bent out of shape over this. Yet the truth is that the evolutionists want to force feed their "religious belief" onto everyone through the public schools. Ardent evolutionists believe in a materialistic ontological world view. An ontological world view is really cognate with a religious belief because it explains the nature of reality. If someone is trying to force evolution on people through public schools as an infallible dogma, an absolute truth, then in essence they are forcing a religious belief on people. It doesn't matter what type of ontological world view you hold to be true, if public schools are going to teach evolution as an absolute truth then they are teaching one religious belief or ontological world view as absolute truth and superior to all others. What is astounding about people who get all bent out of shape about the possibility of public schools mentioning that evolution is not an infallible absolute truth is that they have so little to base their religious belief on. Evolution is now used solely as a tool to discredit belief in a superior being/intelligence in our universe. It is a tautological weapon whose sole use is in trying to change the ontological perception of people for political and philosophical reasons.mentok
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scott, im sorry to say, is a sorry excuse for a "scientist", especially when she arrogantly proclaims: “You can’t really be scientifically literate if you don’t understand evolution,” Scott said. “And you can’t be an educated member of society if you don’t understand science.” so, unless you have a degree in science, study science, or are yourself a scientist, youre not an educated member of society? only those scientists who adhere to an unguided mechanism without purpose or meaning leading to humans are educated?!!! what a pile of horse you know what. the more i read of scott, the more sickening and vile she becomes.jboze3131
November 11, 2005
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Is Eugenie Scott an Atheist? Well just reading between the lines the only two possible answerers i can think of are YEAH & DUH!!!!. I've reached this answer via a meticulous number crunching mathematical formula that i simply call CSF. Some of you might know my work by another name as its also commonly known as the famous "Common Sense Formula" model & yes as with any scientific model before i decided to publish my answer i had it peer reviewed by a team of independent scientist's @ UR the [university of reality ] - lol The day when Eugenie gets converted to Christianity [or anything other than athiesm ]is a day when the heavens themselves depart out of fear :) Why ? because @ that appointed time & hour God would say, WHAT JUST HAPPENED, HAS IT BEGAN ALREADY?!!!. Apparently God forgot to set his proph-o-matic clock and failed to realize [yes even God gets old sometimes:) ] at the very moment Eugeine gets converted to Christianity it signal the the End times has indeed began... lol :) :) :) Charlie Ps - If the end times really does coincides with Eugenies convertence to Christianity , then lets all just pray and hope this doesn't happen anytime soon :) IMO Eugenie Scott - what an amazing character....Charliecrs
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oh wow... this article is sickening, and the writer of the article should be either fired for ignorance and a refusal to do research or lying. this part was especially disgusting:
Scott’s work often takes her into the Bible Belt — the Midwest and the South — but closer to home, a recent conference in San Francisco on “intelligent design” attracted 200 college students and adults. Here Scott was confronted by the relatively new attack on evolution: scientists looking for scientific evidence to prove creationism is true. While organizers insisted that the conference was about science — creation science — not religion, almost all the speakers were creationists. The intelligent design theory says that life on Earth is so complex and intricate that only an intelligent entity could have designed it. “What we call creation science makes no reference to the Bible,” said Duane Gish, vice president of the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego.
intelligent design, monica says...then she suddenly says creation science. then she claims that duane gish is a creation scietist yet an intelligent design proponent. how many lies can ms. monica, with the help of the very dishonest scott, tell? I wonder if Behe and Dembski were aware that they are, as the journalists here writes "scientists looking for scientific evidence to prove creationism is true"?!?! the neverending dishonesty never ends!jboze3131
November 11, 2005
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its so pathetic that the liberal fringe has successfully changed what the constitution actually says about state and religion, and the supreme court since the 40's have been implicit in assisting them distort and perverse the founding document to meet their secular ideology. ------------- "This despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court has issued numerous decisions disallowing the teaching of creationism in public schools because it is a religious view and would violate the separation of church and state." no sane person could argue that teaching creationism would be establishing a national religion. nor could any sane person argue that this is protecting an americans freedom of religion- americans are free to exercise their religion PERIOD. SCOTUS, thru the yrs has ruled that americans are only truly allowed to practice their religion in certain places (churches and homes...religion is banned from schools, public office holders, public bldgs, etc.) its pathetic. all of that and i never even mentioned scotts constant lies- calling it "ID creationism". she makes me sick...along with the other fringe fools who have distorted the constitution and its meaning, destroying the freedoms that were once guaranteed to all of us.jboze3131
November 11, 2005
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And let's not forget Eugenie Scott's Hugh Hefner award: http://www.ainews.com/Archives/Story150.phtml. That's the problem with the ID community -- they're not in bed with the right people.salamanca
November 11, 2005
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"I think what bothers me so much of the time,” Scott said, “is they take the data and theory and distort it. They must know they’re distorting." This is the sure sign of hubris. It's what Michael Shermer has done too. They present their case, and when it isn't accepted, instead of considering any merits of the other side, they blame it all on some psychological/religious cause.Ben Z
November 11, 2005
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But there's no connection between atheism and undirected evolution "theory". Nosiree Bob! ;-)DaveScot
November 11, 2005
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Eugenie Scott has been recognized and received awards from the American Humanist Association. Scott’s metaphysics
As I said, Scott is indeed an atheist and materialist. So, how does she reconcile her theoretical positions with her call for a pragmatic separation of the two issues? Scott espouses the view that there is a distinction between methodological materialism and philosophical materialism. The first corresponds to what any practicing scientist would do. We assume that the world is made of matter, and that if there is something else out there, this is simply beyond the scope and reach of the scientific method. The second position is rational, but not scientific. It points to the rational conclusion that there is only matter out there, even though we cannot prove it beyond any doubt. One problem with Scott’s dualism is that, even though technically correct, it smacks of political correctness, or at least lacks philosophical courage.
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I will never cease to be amazed by those who positively assert that there is no God. Simply mind boggling.Bombadill
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