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In the What is knowledge thread, this has come up now, and I think it should be headlined:

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KF, 201: >> Can we regard scientific theories as factual knowledge?

This is a deep challenge, especially on the so-called pessimistic induction that historically theories in effect have hidden sell-by dates. That is, theories show more of a track record of replacement (sometimes presented as refinement) than we are comfortable with.

A first answer is that a theory, from the abductive angle, is a “best current explanatory framework,” often involving dynamics which may be deterministic or stochastic (or tempered by stochastic factors), and may be empirically reliable in a known or unknown range of circumstances. The turn of C20 surprises faced by Newtonian dynamics have been a major lesson.

The import is, that often theories are more like models that are “useful fictions”(with perhaps a few grains of deep truth in them) than descriptions of factors at work in reality that are all credibly true. This becomes especially so where theories address remote reaches of space or time where we cannot directly observe the actual circumstances. In these cases, we are limited to observations of traces of the circumstances, and we make models of the place and time, we have not got direct checks.

Scientific simulations or scenarios and visualisations tied to such, then become even more remote from the right to claim credible truth.

Of course, actual credible observations are much better as candidates for credible and reliable truth claims.

Such suggests that we need to be far more circumspect in our evaluation of scientific theories than we are sometimes wont to be, e.g. the tendency to say of climate dynamics models and projected developments of climate under human impact, that the science is “settled,” or that those who hold appropriate background — or even laymen expressing concerns — and raise questions on key issues are “deniers.”

The future is beyond current observations, so while we may be well advised to act with prudence, we should not exaggerate our knowledge claims on the future.

Similarly, we should be cautious about exoplanet studies and especially artistic renderings of suggested planets. These are — with a few exceptions — not direct observations, they are inferred from gravitational effects. We may be confident that planetary objects are there and may infer they are terrestrial or gas giant etc, but we should be cautious.

Reconstructions of the past of the cosmos, our solar system and planet, as well as the history of life are also beyond direct observation and should be presented with due cautions. Evidence such as the detection of clear cases of dinosaur soft tissues from a claimed 65+ MYA, should give us pause. And if there are cases where the smell of death/decay is still there, that should give us pause. I know there is a recent headline on a Triceratops horn being dated to 30+ kYA, but that should be taken with a grain of salt for the moment too.

When it comes to wider senses of science such as Economics, we should be even more cautious. Even something like GDP or an unemployment rate is a calculation not an observation. Often useful, but use with due caution.

I begin to suggest that we view theories more like models of high reliability that we hope capture something significant regarding the true dynamics of our world, but we are less than certain of that. The theories may be part of the body of knowledge of a field of study, but that is a matter of observing the field of study as itself a phenomenon subject to observation and evaluation. The credible truthfulness of the contents of a given theory and its key objects or processes and laws etc are something that we should likely take a very eclectic case by case view on. No-one has actually directly observed an electron, but we are highly confident that these entities exist, never mind weird quantum properties of such a “wavicle.” We can make a much better case for more or less observing an atom, given scanning techniques.

The remote future, or remote reaches of space or the remote past of origins, we do not directly observe. We would be well advised to be cautious, and to bear in mind the limitations of inductive methods of investigation.

Ironically, on the design inference debates, the reality of something like FSCO/I [= Functionally Specific Complex Organisation and/or associated Information] and its empirically observed origin are far better observed than the suggested deep-time powers of chance variation and differential reproductive success. But institutional power makes a big difference on how things are perceived. Which, is yet another caution: scientific “consensus” or the ex cathedra statements of august panels and their publicists should be taken with a grain of salt.

Science at its best is openly provisional and open-ended.>>

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Again, food for thought. END

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H'mm: Here is Dawkins in action on much the same topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=m9H2bxHIBfg KFkairosfocus
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DS, see 9 above. And, we have had videos of such Physicists posted here at UD and discussed for years. Krauss is q-foam nothing and Hawking is world from law of gravity, IIRC. KFkairosfocus
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Scientism: the concept that science is all or almost all of “serious” knowledge or is the only way to acquire credible knowledge etc.
Ok, sounds good, but I don't know anybody in real life who holds such a view, and I don't recall anyone here defending it.
PS: Remember the recent claims about pulling a cosmos out of laws of physics and out of quantum foam fluctuations, then saying we get a universe out of nothing? Capital example, and that by Physicists.
If you can get such a physicist to come here and expand upon this, that would be great. On the other hand, it's unclear that taking this position implies that one believes "that science is all or almost all of “serious” knowledge or is the only way to acquire credible knowledge".daveS
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Truth, Empirical investigation is generally seen as opposed to a revelation from on high. I spoke to revelation in the sense of a species of attitude that treats the findings and statements (especially in popular or summarised or ideologised forms) as the closest thing to truth there is. As in, how dare you challenge the august expertise of The Consensus, you irrational, obscurant denier. KFkairosfocus
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F/N: A clipping on Scientism, by Feser:
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2010/03/1174/ Blinded by Scientism by Edward Feser within Science March 9th, 2010 The problem with scientism is that it is either self-defeating or trivially true. F.A. Hayek helps us to see why. The first article in a two-part series. Scientism is the view that all real knowledge is scientific knowledge—that there is no rational, objective form of inquiry that is not a branch of science. There is at least a whiff of scientism in the thinking of those who dismiss ethical objections to cloning or embryonic stem cell research as inherently “anti-science.” There is considerably more than a whiff of it in the work of New Atheist writers like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, who allege that because religion has no scientific foundation (or so they claim) it “therefore” has no rational foundation at all. It is evident even in secular conservative writers like John Derbyshire and Heather MacDonald, whose criticisms of their religious fellow right-wingers are only slightly less condescending than those of Dawkins and co. Indeed, the culture at large seems beholden to an inchoate scientism—“faith” is often pitted against “science” (even by those friendly to the former) as if “science” were synonymous with “reason.” Despite its adherents’ pose of rationality, scientism has a serious problem: it is either self-refuting or trivial. Take the first horn of this dilemma. The claim that scientism is true is not itself a scientific claim, not something that can be established using scientific methods. Indeed, that science is even a rational form of inquiry (let alone the only rational form of inquiry) is not something that can be established scientifically. For scientific inquiry itself rests on a number of philosophical assumptions: that there is an objective world external to the minds of scientists; that this world is governed by causal regularities; that the human intellect can uncover and accurately describe these regularities; and so forth. Since science presupposes these things, it cannot attempt to justify them without arguing in a circle. And if it cannot even establish that it is a reliable form of inquiry, it can hardly establish that it is the only reliable form. Both tasks would require “getting outside” science altogether and discovering from that extra-scientific vantage point that science conveys an accurate picture of reality—and in the case of scientism, that only science does so. The rational investigation of the philosophical presuppositions of science has, naturally, traditionally been regarded as the province of philosophy. Nor is it these presuppositions alone that philosophy examines. There is also the question of how to interpret what science tells us about the world. For example, is the world fundamentally comprised of substances or events? What is it to be a “cause”? Is there only one kind? (Aristotle held that there are at least four.) What is the nature of the universals referred to in scientific laws—concepts like quark, electron, atom, and so on—and indeed in language in general? Do they exist over and above the particular things that instantiate them? Scientific findings can shed light on such metaphysical questions, but can never fully answer them. Yet if science must depend upon philosophy both to justify its presuppositions and to interpret its results, the falsity of scientism seems doubly assured. As the conservative philosopher John Kekes (himself a confirmed secularist like Derbyshire and MacDonald) concludes: “Hence philosophy, and not science, is a stronger candidate for being the very paradigm of rationality.” Here we come to the second horn of the dilemma facing scientism. Its advocate may now insist: if philosophy has this status, it must really be a part of science, since (he continues to maintain, digging in his heels) all rational inquiry is scientific inquiry. The trouble now is that scientism becomes completely trivial, arbitrarily redefining “science” so that it includes anything that could be put forward as evidence against it. Worse, it makes scientism consistent with views that are supposed to be incompatible with it. For example, a line of thought deriving from Aristotle and developed with great sophistication by Thomas Aquinas holds that when we work out what it is for one thing to be the cause of another, we are inexorably led to the existence of an Uncaused Cause outside time and space which continually sustains the causal regularities studied by science, and apart from which they could not in principle exist even for a moment. If “scientism” is defined so broadly that it includes (at least in principle) philosophical theology of this kind, then the view becomes completely vacuous . . .
Hope that helps clarify. Can we get back to the main focus? KFkairosfocus
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KF @ 3: Am I missing something here? Isn't empirical science, e.g. law of gravity, a revelation of some reality? I am not suggesting that empirical science is the only way to discover reality (scientism), but it does seem to reveal some parts of reality.Truth Will Set You Free
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DS: Scientism: the concept that science is all or almost all of "serious" knowledge or is the only way to acquire credible knowledge etc. It more usually shows up implicitly and is often expressed as dismissal of claims not deemed "scientific" or else as imposing the methodological naturalist view, and comes though in much of skepticism. A very typical manifestation is talking in terms of THE scientific method, and expecting it to set the yardstick of credible knowledge in all domains. Failure to understand that epistemology is a branch of philosophy is also typical. KF PS: Remember the recent claims about pulling a cosmos out of laws of physics and out of quantum foam fluctuations, then saying we get a universe out of nothing? Capital example, and that by Physicists.kairosfocus
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Yes. My acquaintances are probably not going to show up here to debate the subject. Are there posters here who will defend scientism? (If so, we should come to terms on a definition, of course).daveS
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Really?!kairosfocus
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KF,
do you realise that many view science as almost a revelation of reality, turning science into Scientism ... ?
To be honest, not really. I don't know that any of my acquaintances subscribe to scientism. Nor any people who post here.daveS
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DS, do you realise that many view science as almost a revelation of reality, turning science into Scientism, particularly under evolutionary materialistic worldview assumptions? KFkairosfocus
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I begin to suggest that we view theories more like models of high reliability that we hope capture something significant regarding the true dynamics of our world, but we are less than certain of that.
This is a reasonable stance, IMO.daveS
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Can we regard scientific theories as factual knowledge?kairosfocus
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