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Speciation: Or maybe not?

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At Wired Science, we are informed “Birth of New Species Witnessed by Scientists” (November 16, 2009):

On one of the Galapagos islands whose finches shaped the theories of a young Charles Darwin, biologists have witnessed that elusive moment when a single species splits in two.

In many ways, the split followed predictable patterns, requiring a hybrid newcomer who’d already taken baby steps down a new evolutionary path. But playing an unexpected part was chance, and the newcomer singing his own special song.

My best guess is that if the girls stop dropping by, he will soon be either singing a different tune or a bachelor. Note the qualifications:

The future of the species is far from certain. It’s possible that they’ll be out-competed by other finches on the island. Their initial gene pool may contain flaws that will be magnified with time. A chance disaster could wipe them out. The birds might even return to the fold of their parent species, and merge with them through interbreeding.

But whatever happens, their legacy will remain: New species can emerge very quickly — and sometimes all it takes is a song.

Hmmm. If a song is really all it takes, it probably isn’t a different species.

Siamese yowl differently from the European cat, and their behaviour is often different, but they are not a different species.

Typically, species prefer their own when they can meet n’ greet easily. Sometimes that won’t happen. Successful species are often flexible about intermediates – which likely hinders speciation.

Only a Darwinist would be this desperate to find an example of speciation.

In this news story, reporter Brandon Keim deserves considerable credit for admitting the difficulties. Maybe some fragments of the message about the problems are getting through.

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Jerry at 1, I never supposed that any of it was "threatening" to ID. I just wondered how or why anyone would assume that a new species was developing, based on this slender line of evidence. I am glad if someone is keeping an eye on the Galapagos finches. But I no more believe that they are speciating - as I said above - than that the Rag Doll cat is speciating from the Siamese. In fact, a relative has advised me this very evening that she has acquired a cat whose parents are respectively Rag Doll and Siamese. It looks odd, but what do I know? If she looks after it well, what do I care?O'Leary
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I suggest all here view the lecture by the Grants at Stanford University just about a year ago. It can be accessed via ITunes U. Go to Stanford and the first option is courses. Select that. At the bottom is a series titled Darwin's Legacy. One of the lectures is about the Galapagos finches and given by the Grants. There is absolutely nothing threatening to ID in the lecture and after I watched the lecture, I said to myself, thank you for an interesting discussion and ID is as strong as ever or maybe even stronger.jerry
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