Noeggerathiales – Uncommon Descent

Tree fern, once considered “evolutionary dead-end,” turns out to have been advanced

Curiously, we keep finding that ancient life forms were more complex or advanced than thought, not that they were simpler and more primitive than thought. What does that imply about the drivers of our expectations?

JVL Relatd: What? Industry – with lots of money – could not afford to install scrubbers on their smoke-belching smokestacks. Why?... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd JVL at 134, 100% fake. Nothing emerges from anything. Everything has properties and potentialities. Period. These are built-in and predetermined... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Relatd: Why do some metals combine to form alloys while some cannot? The alloy has properties of the combined metals.... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd Origenes at 131, It's totally fake. The laws of physics apply. In my kids' chemistry set, I got two clear... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd JVL at 130, What? Industry - with lots of money - could not afford to install scrubbers on their smoke-belching... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Origenes Relatd@ I think “emergent” is a fake idea. When you mix 2 Blue and 1 Red, the color Purple *emerges*.... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Jerry: What happens to an ecology when a species is introduced that is superior to all the others in the... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd JVL at 127, Why do some metals combine to form alloys while some cannot? The alloy has properties of the... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Origenes: It makes sense to say that a statement about the system as a whole must come from a position... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Relatd: This is a subatomic/quantum effect. And not explainable as emergent anything. Well, I think water does exhibit properties not... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL I'm not sure we've latched onto the real notion of axiom, at least in mathematics. Again from Wikipedia: An axiom,... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd Origenes at 180, A strong desire toward simple, but elaborate sounding, explanations doesn't explain anything. Human beings have been trying... – Aquinas, Ockham, and Descartes about God....
Origenes StephenB Ted Bundy’s immoral actions are NOT a direct result of something made by God. Ted Bundy is made by... – Aquinas, Ockham, and Descartes about God....
relatd JVL at 123, A little chemistry lesson. Hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water. If you take a tank with... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Origenes PM1What Gödel did was prove that, for a specific class of formal systems, there will be statements constructed in that... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Jerry: If anything actually emerged, it would destroy itself in a very short time. Nothing more has to be said.... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
JVL Jerry: It’s an old computer (Apple laptop) but with most recent system for it. Me too; two different Macs in... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
PyrrhoManiac1 Addition to my 118 The rules of a game tell you what is a legitimate move in the game. In... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd "anti-physicalist"? Seriously? Elaborate arguments confuse the issue. There is no "emergent" anything. It is fiction. As in fiction. [said with... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
relatd What a horrible, horrible article. As a working editor, I would have had a long talk with the writer about... – And another thing: Evolutionary biology is...
PyrrhoManiac1 @116 If “strongly emergent” means “caused by the physical anyway even though it cannot be explained by it”, then the... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...