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Distant Starlight, the thorn in the side of YEC — can there be a middle ground?

There are many devout Jews and Christians who believe the universe is old. Unlike Darwinism, the presumption of an old universe has real support from science. Philosophically, something as grand and as powerful as the entire universe would reasonably seem to be eternal. Standard thermodynamics and the Big Bang hypothesis changed all that, and the age of the universe is no longer viewed as eternal. Perhaps God did not want us to believe the Cosmos is all powerful and eternal, but rather transient and passing. Thermodynamics tells us the stars cannot burn forever, and thus thermodynamics has left us evidence that the known cosmos is not eternal… As much as Young Earth Creationists (YECs) hate the Big Bang, the Big Read More ›

Cocktails! ICC 2013, C14 dates conflict with Carboniferous era dates (300 million years ago)

C14 should not be found in the Carboniferous era supposedly 300 million years old. If the presence of C14 is not due to contamination or other processes, the carboniferous layer is then much younger — on the order of 40,000 years or less. [the “Cocktail” designation in the title refers to ideas that are possibly true, but are speculative in nature and which are not offered with the same level of conviction as other arguments at UD.] Here is an embarrassing admission from the pro-Darwin TalkOrigins website: the physicists want to find fossil fuels that have very little 14C. In the course of this work, they’ve discovered that fossil fuels vary widely in 14C content. Some have no detectable 14C; Read More ›

Atheists vs. Atheists, A+ Skepchick FTB Atheists vs. Skeptic SI CFI JREF Atheists

An atheist has reported: 1. Michael Shermer (Skeptic magazine) accused of serial rape (from report by FTB/A+ atheist PZ Myers) 2. Lawrence Krauss accused of sexual assault (from report of A+/FTB atheist Jen McCreight) 3. Editor of Skeptical Inquirer (SI) magazine Ben Radford accused of sexual assault and stalking of skeptic writer Karen Stollznow 4. Bill Nye the science guy accused of sexual harassment by A+ atheists 5. DJ Grothe (JREF atheist) accused of misogyny by former JREF atheist Carrie Poppy as reported by FTB/A+ atheist PZ Myers I try to keep UD family friendly, so I will only provide a link to an atheist discussion that summarized these breaking accusations. I cannot directly quote the link because it is Read More ›

Dawkins’ dangerous tweet

American atheists were raising cain about the supposed bad influence of religion on public life in the United States at the same time as the astronauts read from Genesis while floating in space. Go figure. Read More ›

ICC 2013: Creationist Bob Enyart attempts to bribe Darwinist Jack Horner

Bribes are usually offered to get someone to do something dishonest, but in this case a bribe was offered to get someone to do something honest. Shouldn’t a Darwinist be glad to receive a $10,000 donation from a creationist? Creationists offered to donate money to a Darwinist museum if they would merely subject dinosaur fossils to C-14 dating. Darwinists swear by C-14 dating except when C-14 gives them results that overturn their paleontology. As pointed out previously, the presumption the Earth and Universe are billions of years old does not imply fossils are necessarily old. One does not have to be a YEC to appreciate what Bob Enyart is doing in this interview where he offers Darwinist Jack Horner $10,000 Read More ›

Jerry Coyne and Stephen Fry’s fishy tale about St. Thomas Aquinas

I don’t like to accuse two highly respected public figures of lying. Lying, after all, presupposes an intention to deceive the people you are talking to, and not being a mind-reader, I’m loath to ascribe such a wicked intention to two people whom I’ve never met. But when two highly intelligent men make false statements, which they almost certainly know to be false, and they then use these statements for the purpose of scoring cheap points at someone else’s expense, then I think it is fair to say that they are guilty of distorting the truth. And to those who would distort the truth, I say: what you propose to do is bad enough, but if you are going to Read More ›

Mark Frank’s question on common descent and some responses

[cross posted at TSZ A Question for those that doubt Common Descent] Mark wrote Recent posts by Sal remind me that there are some intelligent educated people who doubt Common Descent. What I don’t understand what they think the alternative is. Put simply I take Common Descent as the position that : * At one time there was only very simple unicellular life on earth (this is not a debate about how that unicellular life originated) * Complex life forms (eukaryotes) are created by slight modifications from other life forms (which are their parents). We have never observed them being created any other way! * All complex life forms are the descended from a very small number of simple life Read More ›