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The "dominionist" slanderous, turnabout false accusation

The real “Dominionists” — and nope, it’s not Canada!

The "dominionist" slanderous, turnabout false accusation

In recent weeks there has been yet another drum-beat talking-point on how Christians in public life are a menace to liberty and democracy.

For, through their faith in the God of the Bible, they are suspected to be morally monstrous followers of a barbaric bronze age god — NOT, and to thus be advancing a Christo-fascist, right-wing, totalitarian, theocracy. (Cf. also here, here.)

And of course, design theory is held to be the creationism- in- a- cheap- tuxedo front for this imagined nefarious Nazi-like agenda inspired by the likes of . . . the late Theologian-Philosopher Francis Schaeffer, who advocated for a new reformation of return to godly, sound reason in light of recognition of the reality of the God who is there, and who is not silent.  (And this echoes the titles of Schaeffer’s three key books: Escape from Reason, The God Who is There, and He is There and is Not Silent. Those who are so quick to trot out distorted talking points need to read and cogently respond to these books, first.)

This is yet another instance of the classic,  “he-hit-back first,” blame the intended victim, turn-speak, turn-about  false accusation — based on the trifecta rhetorical strategy of distraction from issues, willful and even slanderous distortion of people and movements, and demonisation —  so beloved of modern Big-Lie propagandists and their dupes; especially those of the Alinskyite Rules for Radicals school of praxis. Read More ›

The Fallacy of Creeping Omniscience

Yesterday, in his “Critics agree with Dembski” post, Eric Holloway raised the issue of a fallacy that is so significant in the design theory context that it deserves its own name: The Fallacy of Creeping Omniscience.

He provided a description that with some minor adjustments, can serve as a working definition:

It is commonly noted that when smart or educated or famous, or wealthy or powerful people or the like achieve expertise or noted success in a certain area, they suddenly think they are experts in many others, even when lacking the necessary knowledge. When listening to smart or educated or famous, or wealthy or powerful people, it is always wise to take this into consideration, and listen most closely to their opinions about what they’re carefully studied. (But, even on those topics where they have genuine expertise, we should note that no expert is better than his or her facts, assumptions and reasoning.)

It is always helpful to give a key example or two, and the now notorious NYRB 1997 clip from Professor Richard Lewontin makes a very good first example: Read More ›

Beavers as designers (are they intelligent?)

Beaver dams are amazing objects in our natural environment, being shaped from piles of felled trees and stones arranged to block streams and create ponds that protect these busy rodents [easily up to 50 – 60 lbs, over 100 lbs on record] from predators, allow them to build their lodges,  and provide watery highways for them to move about as they do their business. The dams range up to nearly 3,000 feet [a bit under 1 km] in length, and up to 7 ft [2+ m] at base and 14 ft [nearly 5 m] in height. Consequently, the beavers are keystone creatures, affecting the water table, providing handy bridges used by many animals, reducing the tendency of streams to flood, providing refuges for trout and young salmon, and eventually creating characteristic meadows as the ponds silt up.

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Should ID abandon attempts to explain the origin of first biological life? (Not to mention, any other origins related matter . . . ?)

In a recent comment in a thread discussing his/her claim that ID in inferring design of first life must either face an infinite regress or else tries to explain first life by a self-contradiction [first life from prior life and/or from non-living intelligence], design theory objector FG (in ducking out of further discussion) says:

Barry and I have discovered that we are in agreement that his particular ID argument should only be used on things we can directly observe. It should not be used to answer questions about first life, since we can’t directly observe and investigate this first life.

Limiting the use of his argument in this way takes away my specific objection that triggered this thread.

Of course, the above seems to be a probably inadvertent distortion of what BA has been saying in several threads over the past week.

But what is highly significant lies in its immediate and onward implications: namely, that design theory if it is so constrained cannot properly address either origin of life or of body plans, for neither of these are amenable to direct observation. Oddly enough, FG seems unaware that the whole project of origins science is an exploration of the remote, unobserved past — indeed the unobservable past — on traces and patterns we do observe in the present. So, if the above criterion were consistently applied, we would have to surrender all claims to scientific knowledge of the deep past of origins.

In short, the objection is patently, even trivially,  selectively hyperskeptical.

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An igniting match (a contingent being)

“Who designed the designer” vs. a burning matchstick

An igniting match (a contingent being)

In the current “who designed the designer” rebuttal thread, NR has posted an objection that inadvertently exposes the core errors of this objection by Dawkins. While I responded in that thread, I think the issue is sufficiently material to also be posted in its own right.

So, pardon the following:

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NR, 12: >> The question “Who designed the designer” is intended as a rhetorical question. An actual answer is not expected.

The purpose of raising that question is to show that the argument “It is complex, therefore it must have been designed” will lead to an infinite regression.

I don’t see that your “demolition” has done anything to avoid that infinite regression problem.>>

KF, 27 – 28 as adjusted: >> NR thanks for your inadvertent rhetorical favour. Read More ›

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Alfred Russel Wallace (1869)

ID Foundations, 7: suppressed history — Alfred Russel Wallace’s Intelligent Evolution as a precursor to modern design theory

One of the saddest facets of the modern, unfortunately poisonously polarised debates over origins science, is the evident suppression (yes, suppressed: at top level, people are responsible to give a true, fair, balanced view of an important matter based on the due diligence of thorough and balanced research . . . ) of relevant history, such as Alfred Russel Wallace's Intelligent Evolution. Read More ›
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The water cycle: key to a viable terrestrial planet

ID Foundations, 6: Introducing* the cosmological design inference

ID 101/Foundations, 6: Introducing and explaining the cosmological design inference on fine tuning, with onward reference links (including on Stenger's attempted rebuttals) Read More ›

Matzke’s sidetrack: debating “Evolution” vs “Creationism” as a distraction from the core ID challenge — what is the empirically credible source of biological, functionally specific, complex organization/ information (FSCO/I)?

If you have been following UD over the past few days you will know Dr Nick Matzke, formerly Public Information Project Director of the US NCSE,  has intervened in Dr Cudworth’s thread on the question of evolutionary biology qualifications of leading objectors to design theory.

As a result of this, in the end, even Dr Cudworth has commented on the tangential issue — evolution (especially claimed universal common descent)  vs creationism and design theory with the Of Pandas and People book that featured in the Dover Trial as a significant point of contention , most recently here in response to Dr Matzke here.

I think the whole issue is a polarising, distractive side-track.

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Various dice

Is chance “real”? Can it “cause” anything? Can we investigate it “scientifically”?

From the days of Plato in The Laws, Bk X on, design thinkers have usually been inclined to think in terms of necessity, chance and choice when they analyse causal factors.  In recent days, though, the reality of chance and its proper definition have been challenged, and not just here at UD.

A glance at the target to the left will definitely show the typical kind of scatter that is in effect uncontrollable, even after careful and skilled efforts to get accuracy and precision. Here, the shooter- gun- range combination is definitely hitting to the left and slightly high [NW quadrant], with a significant amount of scatter. We see here both want of accuracy and want of precision in the result, and could–  if we wanted to, analyse the result statistically to generate a model based on random variables. Such is routinely done in scientific contexts, i.e. chance appears to be real, it appears in the guise of a causal factor leading to observable effects distinguishable from bias and from proximity to an intended target. Moreover, plainly, it can be studied using commonly used scientific methods.

But, some would argue, once the gun, shooter, target and range are set, and the trigger is pulled, the result is a foreordained conclusion.

See, no need for chance.

Especially, chance conceived as “Events and outcomes entirely unforeseen, undirected and unintended by any mind.

However, this is not the only view of chance that is reasonable, especially in a scientific context.

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What does Plato have to do with design theory and debates over origins views? (ANS: A lot.)

The above challenge has been thrown down, in rather intemperate language accompanied by more outing misbehaviour.

It is revelatory on the depth of ignorance cultivated by the imposed dominance of evolutionary materialism via its cat’s paw, so-called methodological naturalism, in science education.

First, as was pointed out in the post on Plato’s warning on the amorality and ruthless factionism of evolutionary materialism day before yesterday,  Plato is one of the first to record the rise of evolutionary materialism as a worldview of origins and the nature of reality. In so doing, he plainly showed that the roots of such a view are philosophical rather than scientific, and in fact“evo mat” is thus shown to have the functionally equivalent status of a religion.

And yes, that means that the de facto establishment of evolutionary materialism in the public square and key institutions is tantamount to an undeclared establishment of the functional equivalent of a religion.

An issue that is already plainly of grave import.

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Plato’s warning (360 BC . . . yes, 2,350 years ago) on the inherent amorality, nihilism and ruthless factionalism rooted in evolutionary materialism

The worldview commonly described at UD as “Evolutionary Materialism” — roughly: the view that our cosmos from hydrogen to humans must be explained “scientifically” on matter and energy in space and time, evolving by forces of chance and necessity —  is nothing new. For, 2,350 years ago, Plato described it as a popular philosophy among those who saw themselves as the cutting edge elite in his day.

As he said in the voice of The Athenian Stranger in his dialogue, The Laws, Bk X:

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