YEC John Hartnett accumulates almost 5.7 million dollars in science grants

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In addition to accumulating 5.7 million dollars in science grants, he has published 186 scientific papers, 102 of which are in refereed journals, the others in conference proceedings.

It might be instructive to compare Hartnett’s total number of publications with other scientists using a graph (created by Mike Gene) of the number of scientific papers published. The researcher who surpasses Hartnett is Francis Collins, who, in the eyes of some is a “creationist” because he believes there are some features in the universe (like human compassion) that are not the result of mindless forces.

collins vs gnuts

The vocal GNU atheists evolutionists, especially Sam Harris, ought to be a little embarrassed that a YEC surpassed them in scientific productivity. Hartnett surpasses the self-appointed defender of science, PZ Myers by large margin as well!

So why did a creationist surpass the leading GNU evolutionists? Because evolutionism is irrelevant to most of the sciences. Even if Harnett is wrong about evolution, and even if evolution is true, it always will be irrelevant to most of science. Harnett’s success in science, reinforces exactly what Jerry Coyne said:

In science’s pecking order, evolutionary biology lurks somewhere near the bottom, far closer to phrenology than to physics.

Jerry Coyne

Here is the description of Hartnett from Conservapedia:

John Hartnett is a creationist cosmologist who has worked with the general theory of relativity in theorizing a case for his young-earth cosmology. The approach involves solving Einstein’s field equations using different boundary conditions.[4][5] According to Moshe Carmeli, Professor of Theoretical Physics at Ben Gurion University in Beer Sheva, Israel[6], Hartnett in his theory demonstrated that there is no need to reckon with the existence of the dark matter in the universe.[7] It has been also declared that his cosmological model explains the possibility for starlight to reach the Earth within the short time frame as measured by earth clocks

Here then is a short CV of Dr. Hartnett from the University website:

LocationRoom 5.80, Physics Building, Crawley campus

Qualifications BSc PhD W.Aust.

Born in Manjimup, Western Australia on March 24, 1952. Received both his B.Sc. (hons) and PhD with distinction from the School of Physics at the University of Western Australia (UWA). He currently works as a Research Professor at the University of Western Australia. His current research interests include ultra-high stability cryogenic microwave oscillators based on pure sapphire resonators, tests of fundamental theories of physics such as Special and General Relativity and their cosmological implications. He has published more than 170 papers in scientific journals and conference proceedings and holds 2 patents.Key research1) Ultra high stability cryogenic microwave oscillators based of a pure single-crystal sapphire. Applications are to provide low noise local oscillators to atomic physics labs, time and frequency atomic fountain standards, and VLBI radio-astronomy.2) Low phase noise synthesis of microwave signals2) Tests of fundamental theories of physics such as Special and General Relativity, standard particle model of physics and measurement of the drift in the fine structure constant. 4) A theoretical interest in cosmology, and the impact of drift in fundamental constants

PublicationsThesis: 1
Edited book: 1
Refereed Book Chapters: 8
Refereed Journal Papers: 102
Refereed Conference Papers: 3
Conference Papers: 81
Patents: 2
Web of Science Citation Report: Total citations: 612; Average: 8.15; h-index: 12

Roles, responsibilities and expertise
Research Professor. Heads up own Local Oscillator research group doing development of cryogenic sapphire oscillators.

Future research
Improving cryogenic sapphire oscillators that use specially designed ultra-low vibration pulse-tube cryocooler technology.

Development of low phase noise synthesis techniques to provide a low noise reference for standards labs and VLBI radio-astronomy.

Funding received
1.ARC Postdoctoral Fellowship, “New Secondary Frequency Standard for Space Applications,” (2001-2004), $56,234/year = $195,000
2.ARC Linkage Grant, “High Performance Microwave Oscillators for Radars,” (2002-2004), ARC $412,108: PSI: $108,000
3.UWA small grant, “Whispering-Gallery-Mode Sapphire-Dielectric Resonators with Exceptionally Enhanced Quality-Factor,” (2001) $19,740
4.ARC Linkage International Grant, “Investigations and Characterization of New Materials for Wireless Communications,” (2002-2004), $23,190.
5.Japan Society for the Promotion of Science Fellowship (60 days), with the National Measurement Institute of Japan, AIST, Tsukuba, Japan, (October-December 2003) JSPS: $14,600
6. Communications Research Labs (CRL) UWA collaborative grant “H-Maser Cavity Design,” (2003) CRL: $23,000
7.ARC Linkage International Grant, “Novel High-Q Resonant Structures for Space and Telecommunications,” (2005-2007) ARC: 30,000
8.ARC Linkage International Grant, “Microwave Characterisation of New Magnetic and Dielectric Structures and Materials,” (2005-2007) ARC: 30,000
9. ARC Discovery grant, “New High Precision Tests on the Standard Model of Physics and Relativity,” included my QEII Fellowship, (2005-2009) $913,000
10.ARC Linkage grant, “Application of Femtosecond Light Sources to Generation of Low Noise Microwave Signals,” (2005-2009) ARC: $798,057, PSI:$ $165,000
11.ARC Linkage Infrastructure and Equipment grant, “A Facility for Ultra-Precise Time and Frequency Transfer: Creating an Australian User Group for the ESA Atomic Clock Ensemble in Space Mission,” (2005) ARC: $242,000, UWA/Curtin University/French Collaborators $213,500
12.National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT), Japan, consultative grant, “Development of a Cryogenic Sapphire Oscillator,” (2005-2006): NICT $415,781
13.UWA grant, “The Elimination of Dark Matter from Galaxy Clusters using Carmelian Cosmology,” (2006) $6,150.
14.ARC Linkage Infrastructure and Equipment grant, “National Electromagnetic Characterization Facility for Advanced Materials,” (2007) ARC: $150,000
15.ARC Discovery grant, “Extending the Spectrum and Performance of Ultra stable Frequency Generation,” (2008-2011) $1,016,542
16.ARC Linkage grant, “Application of Ultra-High Stability Cryogenic Sapphire Oscillators to Very Long Baseline Interferometry” (2008-2011) ARC: $320,000, PSI: $75,235, RioTinto: $35,000, UWA: $32,000, Curtin University of Technology: $10,000, CSIRO: $5,000
17.UWA Research Collaboration Award, “Measurements at the Quantum Limit and Beyond,” (2009) $10,000
18.ARC Discovery Project, “Precision Time and Frequency in the Lab and in Space to Test Fundamental Physics,” (2010-2012) $750,000.
19.Australian Academy of Science, Scientific Visits to Europe award (2010) $8100
20. M.I.T. Haystack Observatory collaboration grant (2010-2011) $15,830.00

Total from all sources: $5,717,153
Industrial relevance
Ultra-high stability oscillators employed as a low noise reference have commercial potential to atomic physics labs, for pumping atomic fountain clocks, and to radio-astronomers to provide a better reference by up to 2 orders of magnitude, that the currently used hydrogen maser.
Languages English
Australian Institute of PhysicsHonours and awards•ARC Australian Postgraduate Award (Industry), UWA, 1997-2000;
•IEEE International Frequency Control Symposium, Pasedena, USA, conf. fellowship, 1998;
•Joint Meeting European Frequency & Time Forum – IEEE International Frequency Control Symposium, Besançon, France, conference fellowship, 1999;
•Measurement Science & Technology Best Paper Award 1999;
•Australian Post-doctoral Research Fellowship, 2001-2004;
•Distinction in Physics PhD thesis, School of Physics UWA, June, 2001;
•Japan Society for the Promotion of Science Fellowship (60 days), with the National Measurement Institute of Japan, AIST, Tsukuba, Japan, October-December 2003;
•ARC QEII Research Fellowship 2005-2009;
•Australian Academy of Science, Scientific Visits to Europe, the Morris Bede Fellowship award 2010;
•IEEE UFFC Society 2010 W.G. Cady Award, presented at the IEEE Frequency Control Symposium, New Port Beach, California, USA, 2nd June, 2010. The citation reads “For the construction of the ultra-stable cryogenic sapphire dielectric resonator oscillators and promotion of their applications in the fields of frequency metrology and radio-astronomy.”

Previous positions1991 – 1996 R&D and sales, WADECO Ltd (Japanese microwave sensor manufacturer), Sydney
1997 – 2000 Ph D student and tutor, University of Western Australia
2001 – 2004 ARC Research Fellow, University of Western Australia
2003 JSPS Research Fellow, NMIJ, AIST, Tsukuba Japan
2005-2009 ARC QEII Research Fellow, UWA
2006 Principal Research Fellow, UWA
2009 Tenured Research Professor, UWA

Patents P1 “Temperature Compensated Oscillator“; Australian Provisional Patent Nov. 2001.

Teaching Supervisor to honours and PhD students

19 Replies to “YEC John Hartnett accumulates almost 5.7 million dollars in science grants

  1. 1
    DiEb says:

    Here is the description of Harnett from Conservapedia

    The same Conservapedia which gives us: E=mc^2 is liberal claptrap ?

  2. 2
    wd400 says:

    How does your thesis about the uselessness of evolutionary biology hold up when your work out the graph is wrong (and not just because it’s a 3D barchart)?

  3. 3
    wd400 says:

    Hmm, either I messed up the link or UD ate it, should put here:

  4. 4
    roundsquare says:

    @wd400 your search results include citations ontop of original work, including only original works the hits for Coyne is 147, compared to Hartnett’s 232 hits. Clearly these results include more than just Journal entries.

  5. 5
    Andre says:

    I’m sure I read somewhere that PZ Myers is just considered a science blogger by his peers….

    Aaah there it is enjoy!

  6. 6
    wd400 says:

    roundsquare – That’s not what the “include citations” check box means: rather, it includes those articles that google only knows about from citations in other papers (not from crawling the web for article information).

    There are a few non-reviewed articles included in each authors searches, but not many in Coynes and certainly there are more than the ~80 the graph seems to credit him (although, being a 3D barchart that’s hard to read).

  7. 7
    tjguy says:

    Well, Harnett’s success shows that YECs can and do do science as well as the best of them. When it comes to evolution, sure, they are shut out of science journals because their approach is different, but when we’re dealing with the regular sciences that use the scientific method, they can do quite well. Their YEC ideology does not affect their work at all. That is why so many great scientists in the past to whom we are still indebted were YECs and yet did outstanding work.

    Thanks for pointing this out.

  8. 8
    vjtorley says:

    Hi Sal,

    Fascinating post. I have a lot of respect for John Hartnett, because he has tried to put forward a scientific theory to harmonize with the observational evidence from the science of astronomy, regarding the size and age of the universe. Time will tell if there is any merit in his alternative cosmology.

    By the way, you might want to correct the spelling of his name in your post: in some places you’ve correctly spelled it as Hartnett, but in other places (including the title) it’s mis-spelled as Harnett.

    I see Professor Hartnett is from Manjimup in Western Australia. I lived in Collie (which is less than 100 kilometres away) for a few years when I was a child. It’s a small world!

    Thanks once again for the article, Sal.

  9. 9
    scordova says:


    Thank you for the corrections.

    Thanks also for every one else for your input.


  10. 10
    Axel says:

    Indeed, it is a small world, vjt. The University of Western Australia was my alma mater. After a year in the University of Wellington.

    But, alas, an understanding of how vacuum flasks work doesn’t take one very far – less, to my consternation, in modern languages than in physics. Greg wins!

  11. 11
    Axel says:

    If you went to the primary school in Collie, vjt, you might have been taught by a Aussie mate of mine, Darrell Ward. But that would be a long-shot.

  12. 12
    Gregory says:

    s, Grgr wns, ts tr! xxx

    “Clck G th Shrs”…bt thr’s n ‘ntrlstc scnc’ bhnd t n strl, s thr gs? Bl-blld J?

    nd sn’t Kn Hm n f strl’s mst vcl cntrbtrs n ths tpc? r sd gnstc Dntn, wh lft th D bcs t ws ‘t Chrstn’ fr hm, whl th D hs smhw sdcd hm bck, prhps wth prmss f bksls nd fm tht h cld nvr chv tsd f mrcn vnglcl mrktng chnnls. Jst lk Brlnsk’s nt-Drwn dsprtn.

    S, th mk Dntn ppr vnglcl (r t lst dsgs hs vtlsm) nd h gs lng qtl nd gldl wth bg chq n hs hnds?

    nd hw mn f hd hrd f strln Grm Snks (.g. Th Cllps f Drwnsm 2003) bfr nw? Ths s bcs dn’t ctll wrk n ths thngs prfssnll, s f prfssnll wr swr-wrd sndng lk ‘cdmc’ t th nt-cdmc vnglclst tttd. t thrfr wldn’t sprs tht th 35% pls Cs hr wld smpl b sck f hrng bt Snk’s Bg Hstr bcs thr lcl ‘pstr’ prchs gnst t n wkl bss nd bcs thr ndctd frnds pll thm dwn t th lwst cmmn dnmntr f nthnkng fth.

    h, prhps t snds s hrd, bt s jst rtnl, lgcl rcgntn f rdl vlbl vnglclst gnrnc s dspld n sctl srvs f dctn lvls n th S.

    Hrtntt snds lk h hds r gnrs hs Csm, xcpt fr n plt cmpn. thrws, h wld b rdcld nd npblshd, lk flt-rthrs nwds, f h wr t wr hs Csm n hs ttmptd pblshng slv. strlns ppr t b mch smrtr thn fndmntlst nd hpr-vnglcl mrcns n ths rgrd. r prhps tht s jst pprnc? (Lt th ss grdts spk!)

    Th lvl f ‘schlrshp’ hrd t th Dscvr nsttt frm th DM’s mn ldrs clrl wsn’t shdw f wht wld b xpctd t th tp strln nvrsts td. Nlsn’s ln wlf (lcd n slf-dprctd) Csm pprd s hx tht vn h knw h cldn’t srsl dfnd t th nXt gnrtn. t lst n-phlsphcl Slvdr hs cm rnd t rls th dbsnss f Cst clms nd hw th dds r dsprtl gnst ‘ng’ rth, vn f hs hrt wnts stll t plgtcll blv thrws. t’s prdcmnt tht prhps wll pl t wth ntrtnmnt t D n ds t cm, nlss hs cmrds plct hm wth Dst nt f nsgnfcnc.

    Bt frnds, ths dsn’t mn tht thsm s n n w chllngd b rjctng Csm nd Dsm. Thsm lvs wtht Dsm, nd lvs bttr nd hlthr! C smpl sn’t blvbl pstn fr Chrstns n th 21st cntr t lwr thmslvs t. nd smll-d (rjctng Bg-Dst clms f ‘scntfct’) s th rthdx pstn f brhmc blvrs, wh d nt rqr th ‘scntfct’ f prvng Crtn. Dsm ds n ts scntstc prtnsns…bt Dsts dn’t wnt t hr ths, whl rqrng tht Bg-D s ‘strctl scntfc.’ Wht lgh!

    Whr d vjtrl, S. Crdv nd ‘xl’ fgr n th bv pblctns lst? Trl hs sd h hsn’t pblshd sngl thng. Hw bt ‘xl’? Cmbnd, th cnt lss thn Hrrs nd Mrs.

    VJ’s Bg-D ‘ntllgnt Dsgn’ s bvsl prsnl thlgcl nvstmnt (tht hs lcl Prst wld lkl rjct, s ds Rm). t’s pt h hsn’t pblshd sngl pr-rvwd ppr nd dsn’t ppr lkl t d s. Prhps, lk tms, h’ll mv twrd rtrmnt b ssntng t prft hmslf b wrtng fr fndmntlst, D-fndd ndvrs. Bt n tht cs, th xplld Sndrm msk cms ff…nd rlt s bnd t st n snr r ltr.

    Wlcm t th nw r; lctrnc bs Dsm fr nckl.

    p.s. ddn’t rls m mr pblshd thn Hrrs nd Mrs. h, rthr bg ccmplshmnt (NT!).

    p.p.s. f ‘ll d th fvr t ddrss m b m fll nm lstd, xl, tht wld b fn. Thnks.

  13. 13
    Axel says:

    Hey up, lads, I fear Greg’s on the turn! I’m not looking forward to Valentine’s Day…

    But seriously, it looks like the worst has happened. Just what I feared. He’s finally lapsed into a persistent, vegetative state. I feared all those years of that Unintelligent Non-Design would finally catch up with him, and play out this way. Be warned, atheists!

  14. 14
    Timaeus says:

    Good work, Sal.

    I’d be interested in further comparisons. I’d very much like to have a graph which includes the peer-reviewed academic output of any or all of the following loud critics of ID:

    Ken Miller

    Larry Moran

    Elizabeth Liddle

    Eugenie Scott

    Karl Giberson

    Darrel Falk

    Dennis Venema

    Steve Matheson

    Kathryn Applegate

    I think that in all but two of these cases, the output would be fewer than 10 peer-reviewed articles, lifetime output. And in the case of Scott, Moran and Miller, I think that the output, if restricted to the last 14 years, would be 0 in the case of Scott, probably 0 in the case of Miller, and probably less than 10 in the case of Moran. If you know better how to get an accurate count than I do — I gave up trying to find any record on the internet of scientific publications by Falk and Giberson a long time ago — by all means, give us another nice graphic.

    It’s amazing how the loudest mouths often go with the least productive hands. If you can show this in pictures, you will be doing the ID world a great service. I get weary of hearing people who have done very little scientific research themselves (and certainly very little in the past 10-15 years) preaching to the world about what “good science” requires and why ID is not “good science.” If someone knows what “good science” is, he or she should be producing it, not going on lecture tours or writing blog columns or popular books about it.

  15. 15
    Gregory says:

    “It’s amazing how the loudest mouths often go with the least productive hands.”

    Goodness, that was worth a laugh coming from ‘timaeus’!! 😉

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    scordova says:

    Thanks Timeaus for the kind words.

    I invite others as well to do the research you suggest, I have a few other irons in the fire, and the above graph wouldn’t have been possible without Mike Gene (who generated the graph).

    He has a semi-private website where there are even more goodies like this, but he keeps it low profile because of all the GNU trolls that hate him for finding unflattering information on their GNU idols.

    If your e-mail in your UD profile is current, I’ll send you the info to get access to Mike’s work.

    God bless,

  17. 17
    Timaeus says:

    Hi, Sal.

    I’d very much like to have the link to the data you mention.

    I didn’t realize that our profiles were accessible to anyone other than the UD site owner, so I’m surprised that you can read mine, but in any case the old e-mail address is no longer valid and I’ve changed it to a new one. Please go into the profile again and use the new gmail address. I’ll respond to you when I get your note.

  18. 18
    scordova says:


    For some reason your post was held up! I don’t know why. Have you been put in moderation by accident?

    I just sent you an e-mail.


  19. 19
    Timaeus says:


    Check your e-mail for my private reply. And thanks for the information.

    Not sure why my previous post was held up in moderation. Maybe this one will be held up, too. If the problem persists, I’ll consult the powers that be.

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