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Stephen Jay Gould’s Contempt for the John Templeton Foundation

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Yesterday Charles Harper issued a press release taking to task Daniel Golden for his piece in the Wall Street Journal in which he suggested that the John Templeton Foundation has been a patron or sponsor of Intelligent Design (for the press release, go here). In that press release, Harper ritualistically underscored just how much money and effort the John Templeton Foundation has spent on critiquing ID. In particular, he noted that

for almost a decade the John Templeton Foundation has been the major supporter of a substantial program at the headquarters of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), one of the chief focus activities of which has been informing the public of the weakness of the ID position on modern evolutionary biology. (see: http://www.aaas.org/spp/dser) This program was founded under the advice and guidance of the prominent evolutionary biologist Francisco Ayala when he was President of the AAAS, and was also supported by Stephen Jay Gould under his Presidency.

For Harper to cite Gould as an ally here is ironic since Gould had nothing but contempt for the John Templeton Foundation. In his book Rocks of Ages, Gould attacks what he calls the “syncretic school,” which embraces “the oldest fallacy of all as a central premise: the claim that science and religion should fuse to one big, happy family, or rather one big pod of peas, where the facts of science reinforce and validate the precepts of religion, and where God shows his hand (and mind) in the workings of nature.” (212)

Worse yet, as far as Gould is concerned, “the spectacular growth and success of science has turned the tables for modern versions of syncretism. Now the conclusions of science must be accepted a priori, and religious interpretations must be finessed and adjusted to match unimpeachable results from the magisterium of natural knowledge! The Big Bang happened, and we must now find God at this tumultuous origin.” (213)

And who is the worst offender here? Who, more than anyone, is responsible for this resurgence in syncretizing science and religion? Read on:

In the summer of 1998, a deluge of media hype enveloped the syncretist position, as though some startingly new and persuasive argument had been formulated, or some equally exciting and transforming discovery had been made. In fact, absolutely nothing of intellectual novelty had been added, as the same bad argments surfaced into a glare of publicity because the J. M. Templeton Foundation, established by its fabulously wealthy eponym to advance the syncretist program under the guise of more general and catholic (small c) discussion about science and religion, garnered a splash of media attention by spending 1.4 million bucks to hold a conference in Berkeley on “science and the spiritual quest.” (214)

Question: Would it help the Templeton Foundation to accept Intelligent Design if a Harvard professor as famous as Stephen Jay Gould could be found to support it?

Follow-up Question: If an equally prominent ID proponent treated the Templeton Foundation with Gould’s contempt, would the Templeton Foundation nonetheless fawn on him and invoke his name to counter less respectable elements in the science-religion dialogue?

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geoff scratch the however in my first sentencejmcd
November 16, 2005
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geoffrobinson Random is a scientific term. It does not however have the same meaning that we attribute to it in everyday speach. Random simlpy means we cannot conceivably predict what the next outcome will be. When you talk about randomness in quantum mechanics you are not implying a purposelessness, meaningless process. The same is true for evolution. Many people ascribe a theistic meaning to the scientific term random when there is not one at all. This I suspect is an unfortunate source of much unnecessary constrenation. neurode If that is true then does irreducible complexity go beyond the realm of ID?jmcd
November 16, 2005
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I would argue that concepts of randomness, happiness, the laws of logic, design, meaning, etc., etc. require theism. You can't do science unless you are a theist, or unknowingly borrowing from theism.geoffrobinson
November 16, 2005
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ID theory is about the inference and empirical detection of design. That is, if God works through mutation and natural selection, as Theistic Evolutionists maintain, and if the influence of God is anything but negligible, then design will be evident in the products of evolution, and detecting this evidence is the focus of ID theory. Although ID theory must ultimately consider the mechanisms through which the designer impacts evolution, it now consists of probabilistic analysis alone (a set of mathematical techniques heavily employed throughout the sciences in order to discover causal relationships among natural phenomena). Thus, its analytic capacity is still highly generic, and it is not yet ready to conclusively identify the designer. If ID "disproves evolution", it does so not by denying the influence of natural selection, such as it may be, but by indicating that genetic mutations and their phenotypic outcomes are not "random" in the neo-Darwinian sense. Since evolutionary phenomena are not necessarily dependent on the randomness of biological mutations, this is entirely consistent with the existence of evolutionary processes. Even if not "grand" and "revolutionary", current ID reasoning is at least novel in certain respects, and without the heavy ideological baggage sometimes attached to it, does indeed constitute a promising approach to "combining theology with science". If this is inconsistent with what you've heard about ID theory, then you may have been listening to the wrong arguments by the wrong people. On the other hand, if these people at any point succeed in nailing their personal ideological baggage to ID theory in any permanent way, then others will no doubt carry the theory forward under a different name.neurode
November 16, 2005
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That is a point of confusion with me as well. I have said that I find no problem with an inference of design in the universe. Such an inference does not change anything in science and such a belief is consistent with evolutionary theory. The issue that I would take up with ID is the notion that things are too complex to have arisen from natural processes. I have heard it both ways. ID is simply an inference of design, and ID states that natural processes cannot account for life. Would the real ID please stand up?jmcd
November 16, 2005
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I have learned very little in my short time on this website apparently ID is a very broad belief that can be either entirely religious or entirely scientific. It is both an alternative, and perfectly consistent with Evolution. It seeks to deny the atheistic tendencies of Darwinism, yet at the same time, makes no social, moral, or religious statements. Sorry, Im very confused. I thought ID disproved Evolution I thought ID was a grand new way of thinking I thought ID was the revolutionary new theory that could combine theology with science. ?????puckSR
November 16, 2005
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This thread on the Templeton Foundation reveals a certain amount of disagreement regarding the science-theology relationship. Accordingly, it should be noted that the Templeton Foundation itself appears to be largely responsible for the confusion. Although ID theory is in principle perfectly consistent with evolution, the Templeton Foundation has helped its enemies characterize it as "anti-evolution", meanwhile throwing money hand-over-fist at a logically inconsistent and scientifically barren alternative, Theistic Evolution, which - thanks in large measure to Templeton - now takes most of the credit for being a scientifically consistent theological viewpoint. In other words, the negative influence of the Templeton Foundation on ID goes well beyond its self-righteous determination not to fund ID-related projects; the Templeton Foundation has in fact been largely responsible for casting ID as "anti-evolution" and "anti-science", and thus for placing ID in a defensive, financially disadvantageous position. It seems that while holding itself up to the media as a constructive influence in developing and strengthening the relationship between science and religion, the Templeton Foundation has actually opposed one of the most promising approaches to elucidating that relationship (ID theory), and instead widened the gap between science and religion by supporting a viewpoint (TE) according to which that gap cannot under any circumstances be eliminated. In the process, the Templeton Foundation has strongly diverted public awareness away from a crucial fact: in denying that God could have any scientifically measurable impact on natural phenomena, and evolutionary phenomena in particular, TE proponents have attempted to render theological insight irrelevant to the conduct and content of science. It's as though Sir John Templeton wanted not only to prevent the science-theology relationship from ever being elucidated, but to deny its very existence. The only real question is whether this was as intentional as it appears to be, or whether Templeton's culpability has been mitigated by honest confusion.neurode
November 16, 2005
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Empirical basis for a sense of purpose? I don't know where to start with that. I suppose you migt mean from what in the natural world can I draw on for a sense of purpose? My sense of purpose is based on a kind of faith but not faith in the religious sense. People's lives matter to me. The quality of life across the globe is something that I care about. The future of the human race is something I care about. Why do I care about such things? I cannot answer that. I just do. I can no more provide empirical evidence for my core beliefs then a religious person can about their faith in God.jmcd
November 16, 2005
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"By that token there must be some evidence that cows are sacred since so many people believe it, no?" Wow, your an idiot That is absolutely not what i said A better analogy Cows are worshipped by many people, perhaps people who worship cows are not crazy whacko's to believe something if it is that popular. They must have some reason for their beliefspuckSR
November 16, 2005
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puckSR "There must exist some evidence for evolution if so many people accept it." By that token there must be some evidence that cows are sacred since so many people believe it, no? jcmd "I am simply saying that I and many I know do not require faith for a sense of purpose or to experience joy." Joy is just a matter of brain chemistry. What purpose in life do you sense and if it doesn't require faith then what is the empirical basis for this sense of purpose?DaveScot
November 16, 2005
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For the record Gould was not a "hardcore atheist." In the book Dembski mentioned, Rocks of Ages, Gould did say that he had a notion that atheism might be true, but I have never heard him refer to himself as an atheist. He was basically of the mind that the answer to the creation question can never be known so there is little reason to BELIEVE anything. You could say he had suspicions but not beliefs.jmcd
November 16, 2005
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mentok correct me if im wrong but...many people believe in evolution the idea that evolution is entirely baseless would seem incredibly misleading. There must exist some evidence for evolution if so many people accept it. Similiar argument in the world of religion You obviously think Christianity is the way. But Islam must at least have some something to it if it is so popular. Characterizing a belief as ridiculous simply because you do not share that belief seems prideful and blind. So perhaps instead of being "sellouts", they just do not see your point of view? Ever consider that someone is wrong without condemning them?puckSR
November 16, 2005
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"Faith in God is the only thing which gives our lives meaning. Without that there is nothing but the darkness of a nihilistic oblivion leading to eternal death. Faith in God gives heaven and eternity to people’s minds and ontological perception, evolution gives hell and death." I am a man of no great faith in God yet I see humanity and the universe we live in as a wonderful awe inspiring creations. It is ridiculous to imply that without religion there can be no happiness or joy in the world. I provisionally believe in evolution but it has not brought me hell and death. You would prpobably say that without religion there can be no morality. This is equally untrue. I want to make it very clear that I am in no way attacking religion or people of faith. I am simply saying that I and many I know do not require faith for a sense of purpose or to experience joy. Practically everyone I know believes Darwin. Yet, I cannot claim to have ever met a nihlist.jmcd
November 16, 2005
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I would assume the hard-core atheists view the theists who try to curry favor with materialistic-based Darwinian thought as useful idiots.geoffrobinson
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"We bring light and the hope of eternal joy." Not me. I'm just going where the evidence leads.DaveScot
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puck I don't expect everyone to understand what I wrote but some will. The point is that Templeton and his team care more about seeming "mainstream" then they do about integrity. The media goes out of it's way as does academia in trying to paint ID as being a prong of the fundamentalist attack on secular society. Templeton and associates would sell out the truth and God in their fear of ridicule. If they were actually spiritually in touch with God and working to help other towards God through syncretism as they like to portray themselves as doing, then why did they sell God out and not only join the bandwagon of lies but be major promoters of lies? Their spirituality is worth less then their scientific integrity. They should be ashamed of their utter lack of ethics and should stop pretending to be syncretists when in fact they seek to do nothing but use God to promote themselves and their own power seeking agenda. They can stab me in the back while telling me to my face how much they love me. The pain betrays their vapid smiles. They are not only selling out God they are selling out the public in general by supporting the attacks against ID. The dogmatic promotion of evolution as an absolute truth is simply an attempt to destroy peoples faith in God. Faith in God is the only thing which gives our lives meaning. Without that there is nothing but the darkness of a nihilistic oblivion leading to eternal death. Faith in God gives heaven and eternity to people's minds and ontological perception, evolution gives hell and death. People who foolishly try to lie about ID in order to promote evolution are doing a great disservice to humanity. We bring light and the hope of eternal joy. Evolution and it's dishonest bigoted promoters bring nothing but darkness and eternal death. People who promote evolution in an attempt to destroy peoples faith in God claim to be on the moral and ethical highground seeking to uphold free thinking and rationality. Nothing could be more simplistic and foolish then that thought. Luckily God is real, large, and in charge, and nothing and no one can dim the illuminating sun of truth. The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on.mentok
November 16, 2005
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wouldnt that comment be better placed in the original story about the Templeton Foundation mentok? Also i think your characterization that they(members of the Templeton Foundation) do not want to be seen as religious is ridiculous. Arent they at least a pseudo-religious organization. I am fairly sure most people already view them as "religious" peoplepuckSR
November 15, 2005
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What happens when fabulously wealthy old men want to be seen as prophets but don't have the spiritual wherewithal to accomplish that goal based on their own abilities? Exhibit A: The Templeton Foundation. Templeton doesn't have to do anything but throw money at willing sycophants who pander to his ego and waste his money on pretentious irrelevant "spirituality". They end up being somewhat like New Age types without the cute girls, incense, eastern philosophy and cool clothes i.e stuffy boring pretentious boors. Their pathetic attack on ID is due to their lack of scientific education and lack of spiritual cojones. They would hate to be seen as those "religious" people at their cocktail parties in the Hamptons and at their favorite dining spots in L.A, New York, Paris and London where they mingle with the upper crust. What a sad day when people who claim as their raison d' etre "syncretism" reject the most obvious and well documented case in their favor.mentok
November 15, 2005
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Isnt it perfectly acceptable to refer to someone's work even though that person may not enjoy nor validate your work? If Dr. Shallit performed some research that you found very promising, would you dismiss it due to personal animosity on his part?puckSR
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