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Doubtful Finnish scientist discovers just how intellectually curious Darwinists are

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Curious to find and shun, then destroy, all evidence-based doubt. Heretic: One Scientist’s Journey from Darwin to Design by Matti Leisola and Jonathan Witt here:

What happens when an up-and-coming European bioscientist flips from Darwin disciple to Darwin defector? Sparks fly. Just ask biotechnologist Matti Leisola. It all started when a student loaned the Finnish scientist a book criticizing evolutionary theory. Leisola reacted angrily, and set out to defend evolution, but found his efforts raised more questions than they answered. He soon morphed into a full-on Darwin skeptic, even as he was on his way to becoming a leading bio-engineer. Heretic is the story of Leisola’s adventures making waves—and many friends and enemies—at major research labs and universities across Europe. Tracing his investigative path, the book draws on Leisola’s expertise in molecular biology to show how the evidence points more strongly than ever to the original biotechnologist—a designing intelligence whose skill and reach dwarf those of even our finest bioengineers, and leave blind evolution in the dust. More.

More later but tThis story sounds smilar to that of German Gunter Bechly, the one who got erased from Wikipedia, despite his achievements, on account of his ID sympathies,

Bechly publicly announced his sympathy for ID in 2015, and the retaliation proved instantaneous. First, he met with strange smiles, icy faces, and gossip. His applications to acquire new fossil material were suddenly blocked. A position he relied on, his amber preparator, was proposed to go unfilled after the last employee retired. More.

As we noted earlier, “Mediocrities inflate their value when they become witch hunters. They keep their own jobs while diminishing the value of the disciplines they represent.” Eventually, only outsiders can be trusted in principle.

See also: Human evolution 2018: Not only upended icons but suspicious relics: Gunter Bechly spills the beans.

Notes from Wikipedia, the information age’s public landfill: Cofounder thinks ID article “appallingly biased”

16 Replies to “Doubtful Finnish scientist discovers just how intellectually curious Darwinists are

  1. 1

    A/mats are just as biased, intolerant, and hypocritcal as the rest of us. Honest ones will admit it… and they are rare.

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    Bob O'H says:

    “Mediocrities inflate their value when they become witch hunters. They keep their own jobs while diminishing the value of the disciplines they represent.”

    Leisola still has his job, doesn’t he?

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    FourFaces says:

    Matti Leisola is only mentioned in the Finnish Wikipedia, not in the English language one. In fact, Wikipedia acts as if he does not exist at all, even though his scientific work is well known. Typical materialist/Darwinist anti-information fascism.

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    Bob O'H says:

    FourFaces – I lived in Helsinki for 12 years. I only came across his name from the creationist debates. So I wouldn’t say his work is well known. Looking at his recent publications and his most cited publications, they are all in the specialised literature, so I don’t see why he would be in Wikipedia for his science. This isn’t to say that he isn’t doing good work, but a lot of us do good work, and if he deserves an English language Wikipedia page, then so do thousands of other people.

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    gpuccio says:

    This seems interesting. Matti Leisola seems to be specially interested in enzymes and protein engineering. Very good indeed. 🙂

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    gpuccio says:

    Bob O’H:

    Wikipedia success is not necessarily a good measure of scientific ostracism, I agree with you.

    But do you really think that embracing ID explicitly and for purely scientific reasons would have no negative consequences for any working scientist today?

    I still find Leigh University’s “disclaimer” about Behe on its official site a real shame for scientific integrity:

    http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/News/evolution.html

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    kairosfocus says:

    BO’H, the immediate focus for News in writing:

    “Mediocrities inflate their value when they become witch hunters. They keep their own jobs while diminishing the value of the disciplines they represent.” Eventually, only outsiders can be trusted in principle

    was

    Bechly publicly announced his sympathy for ID in 2015, and the retaliation proved instantaneous. First, he met with strange smiles, icy faces, and gossip. His applications to acquire new fossil material were suddenly blocked. A position he relied on, his amber preparator, was proposed to go unfilled after the last employee retired.

    BTW, it seems that some Finns can have a bit of a reputation for stirring the pot, judging by — pardon, language and image warnings — Linus Torvalds, founder of Linux.

    KF

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    News says:

    Bob O’H at 2: You ask, “Leisola still has his job, doesn’t he?” Perhaps some are working on that problem.

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    News says:

    kairusfocus at 7, Local lore in Canada has it that Finns long suffered from Finlandization: The need to go along with the Soviet sewage pond because Filand was a border state. That might breed profanity and heavy drinking.

    In fairness, they have tried bravely, more than one can say for some.

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    Bob O'H says:

    News @ 9 – Profanity & heavy drinking amongst Finns is almost certainly much older. A lot of their place names are profane (there’s a book by a Finnish Swede whose title translates as “Popular Music from Vittula”. Only Vittula should also be translated, but not in polite society). I’m not sure what you mean by “go[ing] along with the Soviet sewage pond” – they certainly have no love for the Russians, but they managed to stay independent, at least as independent as possible.

    BTW, a colleague of mine now works in a forensic department in Helsinki. He once went to some of the sites of the Winter War battles, and reckoned there was still a lot of metal in the trees there.

    Oh, and I once worked on some data from the Winter War, along with a Canadian.

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    kairosfocus says:

    BO’H: Finland’s history is interesting to say the least. Once a province in effect of the Russian empire, before that IIRC Swedish. Independent since 1918. Fought the Winter War and the Continuation War then on being forced to peace — and cede land of course — with Germany. Neutral, with a bad bear as next door neighbour. Look, Rapala [a favourite Finnish brand] means mud; but that’s sort of an assigned name for Lauri from the name of a village . . . oops, that is a warning. Maybe I should shudder to ask what Nokia means. KF

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    Bob O'H says:

    kf – Nokia is a town. I have a pair of Nokia boots.

    They were part of Sweden until 1805. Also, the first Finn in the historical record was known for killing Bishop Henry, a Brit. We know that he was British because he came from the land of the cabbage eaters.

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    Barry Arrington says:

    KF at 11:

    Yes indeed. I have a friend whose great uncle died in the Winter Way — perhaps the greatest David and Goliath story of the last 100 years (and no one seems to remember it).

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    kairosfocus says:

    BO’H: That’s the prob, with one town named mud and another[?] whatever, what does no 3 mean. Not like Gimme-me-bit or Porus or Look-behind, etc. But then there’s Magotty. KF

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    Bob O'H says:

    Barry @ 13 – the Finns certainly remember it. They have archives which list everyone who fought in the wars, including photos and biographic information. I had a colleague who was doing forensic work on the battlefields about 10 years ago (he may well still be doing it).

    Another little known fact is that Hitler awarded Iron Crosses to three Jewish Finns.

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    kairosfocus says:

    BO’H: I suspect most people have only the vaguest notion of history, including of WW2. That, further, their picture is distorted in many ways. To illustrate, I have read considerably, but only currently am I seeing the influence of the Natal, Brazil (and some offshore islands) on a lot of the WW2 strategic picture . . . esp. how the US was in effect easing into the war from about mid 1940 on due to requisites of hemispheric defence; from the kind of source that doesn’t make it into popular reading or history books. There was no obvious campaign but there was a huge geostrategic effort implicating the whole LAC region, with obvious echoes down to today. My onward thought is of course that if you refuse to learn from history, that has serious consequences in itself. KF

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