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End is Nye-er (in a couple of days)


Regular readers will recall that Bill Nye the science guy (the TV show, remember?) is to debate Ken Ham, the Genesis slam, Tuesday (February 4) at the Kentucky science museum, live streaming, free.

Now, strictly speaking, it’s a fight Nye picked when he attacked creationist parents. But he’s willing to defend his views.

But Nye’s biggest problem isn’t Ham, actually. Jerry Coyne criticized his performance in advance as did P.Z. Myers and somebody Dawkins approves of. Whether Nye wins or loses, the first thing he should do when he gets back home is call Relationships 9-11 and break off with all these supposed friends.

Meanwhile, Gregg Henriques, over at Psychology Today also provided Nye with a wonderful attitude not to imitate (Ham shouldn’t either):

3. Anti-evolutionary beliefs are seriously problematic at multiple levels. Like Nye, I am convinced that Biblical fundamentalism represents an enormous sociocultural problem in America. Consider that prior to my debate I went to one of my opponent’s lectures on creationism. In the question and answer period (which included such questions—asked in earnest—as whether or not Adam and Eve had bellybuttons), the hostility toward the “anti-God” liberal elite was palpable. The narrative that emerged in the room was that evolutionary theory was a religious and political movement sparked by hyper-educated atheists who deemed themselves superior to the common man and too narcissistic to submit to the will of God. It turns out this was not an isolated incident but is a central line of thought underlying American social conservatism. In his book, What is the Matter with Kansas?, Frank highlights how the culture wars are central to understanding the political divide in America and that the evolution-creationism debate is central to the culture wars.

Henrique’s whole post stinks like road kill skunk, of tax- and student loan- funded superiority.

And this from a guy in a field that is so riddled with scandals (psychology), we wondered if there’d be anything of substance to account for after the holes were all tallied.

That’s a good way to feel good about yourself, but it’s not a good way to win. Winners learn. They note weaknesses in their own position as well as others’.

Klinghoffer over at Evolution News & Views says he’ll watch, and it’ll be interesting to hear his take, if he offers one. Like non-creationist me, he doesn’t have a cat in the fight. – O’Leary for News

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Maybe the biggest debate since Lincoln/Douglass?? Probably not! I think it might be the most famous person ham has debated and so he is moving into celebritydom I think. I smell the evolutionists wikll be watching but are lowering expectations because of a fear of Ham looking too good. they are intellectual cowards and at least Nye has shown up. It should be on tv. Better then obama and more important. I think Ham should concentrate on a few points and also upon the intellectual demand for better investigation into origins. Does anyone know how many people might or, after, will be watching? Can they count this? Lord bless mr Ham and the truth and no one get hurt. Robert Byers
I am convinced that Biblical fundamentalism represents an enormous sociocultural problem in America.
Yes, because it is one of the largest demographics in America still questioning the culture of materialist pseudo-skepticism, and pseudoscience that writes you and your colleagues' paychecks. I wouldn't like them either if I were you, Gregg. lifepsy
Mapou seems to have a great love for young earth creationists in a similar fashion as Darwinists... I wonder why. JGuy
I guess I should have said 'young earth creationists' @2. Mapou
Creationists and Darwinists seem to have a great love for each other. I wonder why. Mapou
End is Nye-er (in a couple of days)
And the Superbowl is even Nigher than that, less than 3 hours away. Should be a great game with great commercials. :-) scordova

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