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One would think that the French, having been overrun by a fascist country in 1940, would be especially careful to reign in the fascist impulses of their progressives.  But one would be wrong:

In 2014, in conjunction with World Down Syndrome Day (March 21), the Global Down Syndrome Foundation prepared a two-minute video titled “Dear Future Mom” to assuage the anxieties of pregnant women who have learned that they are carrying a Down syndrome baby.

More than 7 million people have seen the video online in which one such woman says, “I’m scared: What kind of life will my child have?” Down syndrome children from many nations tell the woman that her child will hug, speak, go to school, tell you he loves you and “can be happy, just like I am – and you’ll be happy, too.”

The French state is not happy about this. The court has ruled that the video is – wait for it – “inappropriate” for French television. The court upheld a ruling in which the French Broadcasting Council had banned the video as a commercial. The court said the video’s depiction of happy Down syndrome children was “likely to disturb the conscience of women who had lawfully made different personal life choices.”

 

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News: One could have said this about many diseases a half millennium ago: “The real sinners would be the ten percent who carry the pregnancy to birth and then watch a Downs syndrome baby develop an impaired mind locked in an impaired body instead of halting the pregnancy and starting over.” Indeed, and it would have been just as true then as it is today. Creating a human-quality mind was just as important a responsibility 500 years ago as it is today. Anyone who attempts to do so is honor bound to do everything in their power to create a healthy mind in a healthy body. If the process of creation is irreversibly disrupted, as it is in a Down syndrome pregnancy, you have no moral choice but to stop it before a sick mind is produced, and start over. News: You mean killing the kid. Like Johnny. Like Anna. Like the other people I have known, loved, and respected, who live with Downs. No! I mean halting the pregnancy before Johnny or Anna ever exists! They don't exist in the womb. The woman might as well not even be pregnant, as far as their non-existent minds are concerned. There's nobody home in the womb. There's no spirit in the womb, just fetal flesh that can, eventually, form a brain that is capable of supporting a mind IF all goes well and if the fetus has Down syndrome things are going disasterously wrong. Johnny and Anna's minds didn't even begin to form until after birth. Their brains had to complete a last minute spurt of neuron growth that didn't end until after birth. Then the gazillions of connections between those neurons had to be pruned and strengthened in a process that could only occur while the (now) baby is interacting with its body and the world around it. That's when a baby starts to figure out the most basic of basic things. Like seeing a big pink thing go flying by and gradually learning that it only flies by when they make certain nerve signals and then learning to make those nerve signals at will and seeing the pink thing fly by every time and that's how the newborn starts to figure out what their arm is. It's the very beginning of making a mind and the process doesn't even begin until after birth. That's why Roe v Wade was decided the way it was. Because it had become obvious by the sixties that there was nobody home in the womb, that there was no human mental activity present, nothing more complex than you would find in a cat fetus. People realized that there was something terribly immoral about carrying a Thalidomide fetus to birth so that it would develop a human mind in a terribly deformed body or a terribly deformed mind in any body. Conservative religion mostly realized that too. If you can find sixties issues of religious magazines, you'll see a cautious, somewhat reluctant, agreement that there were times when abortion was at least the lesser of evils, but then a couple of evangelicals brought "Silent Scream" to church basements around the continent and replaced reason and hard won knowledge with the big lie that a fetus is a human being and all the corollaries you can work out from that lie. You mention that humans have evolved to fool themselves when it enhances their survival and your reaction to my post shows how it's done. Ignore what is actually said. Immediately start name calling and slander. "Pay no attention to that man, he's evil and depraved!" Above all, don't consider what is actually said or try to refute it. Because if you bring facts into the discussion, Conservative Christianity will be damaged and Conservative Christianity is your meal ticket. Without it, you are just another Canadian grandmother. You will lose a ton of status. If you want to ban me, you would at least be following in the footsteps of St. Paul. "They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach." Nothing in there about answering them or defending your beliefs, just ban them! The only thing I'd worry about is that although I am circumcised, I'm not Jewish.MatSpirit
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Further to 3: From film and other media news: Like the fictional teen Eugene, Harman has Down syndrome and says he knows what it’s like to be badly treated. Badly treated? At least Harman does’nt know what it is like to be killed in a procedure that is not called either murder or execution- that usually happens to children who have Down syndrome. Also: What it is like to live with Down syndrome? (Nine explain. It’s like lots of privileged people thinking you should be dead.) Also, This 25-Year-Old With Down Syndrome Just Published His First Book But I am not clear we should even tolerate such an openly and lethally bigoted person as MatSpirit on this site. What do readers think? Barry?News
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Mat plays God and says: "The real sinners would be the ten percent who carry the pregnancy to birth and then watch a Downs syndrome baby develop an impaired mind locked in an impaired body instead of halting the pregnancy and starting over." The people in the commercial disagree with you that their lives are worthless: DEAR FUTURE MOM | March 21 - World Down Syndrome Day | #DearFutureMom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-q4OnBtNU Perhaps Mat wants to go tell them to their face that he personally thinks they would better off dead? Actually, I think the world would much better off if dangerous people like Mat, who try to play god over other people's lives, had never been born.bornagain77
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Thank you, MatSpirit at 3, for helping us understand why medical science remained in the dark ages for millennia. One could have said this about many diseases a half millennium ago: "The real sinners would be the ten percent who carry the pregnancy to birth and then watch a Downs syndrome baby develop an impaired mind locked in an impaired body instead of halting the pregnancy and starting over." You mean killing the kid. Like Johnny. Like Anna. Like the other people I have known, loved, and respected, who live with Downs. By all means, keep braying your message as widely as possible, MatSpirit. The world must know who you are and what you stand for.News
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OT: Unbelievable? Does God Exist? David Wood vs Michael Shermer debate Saturday 3rd December 2016 http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Does-God-Exist-David-Wood-vs-Michael-Shermer-debatebornagain77
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This is interesting. In your "Prof Bob Marks on what computers can’t do" post, Prof. Marks puts up a quote from Titus 1 about Cretans being liars. Checking the quote's context, I was surprised to find Paul saying, "10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain." It looks like Paul would have sided with the modern French authorities. Since abortion halts a pregnancy when the fetus is only flesh, well before a mind has even begun to form, I think it's certainly bad to make the 90 percent of women who abort a Down syndrome pregnancy in time feel like they've done something wrong. They havent. They're heros in everyday life. The real sinners would be the ten percent who carry the pregnancy to birth and then watch a Downs syndrome baby develop an impaired mind locked in an impaired body instead of halting the pregnancy and starting over. Has anybody here worked with Downs syndrome babies? I'm talking about the ones who have a bad case of the disease. The ones who never learn to speak, so they can't tell their mommies how thankful they are. The ones who go through their short lives wearing helmets to protect their heads when they try to stand up and fall because they never learn to walk. The ones who rock back and forth for hours at a time, crying to themselves and drooling. The ones that can't make videotapes shaming the women who did the right thing and urging other women to make a needless and tragic mistake.MatSpirit
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Barry, my earliest childhood friend was a boy who had Down syndrome. I (b. 1950) didn't realize that there was something medically wrong with Johnny (1948-1957) until he died of a congenital heart condition associated with the disorder. (He knew how to catch cabbage butterflies way better than me.) Progressivism (fascism) is, in my experience, about power, plain and simple. Its doctrines are easy to understand: Humans are not special and have evolved to need coercion. We did not evolve to understand reality, so people who chose to have their child killed deserve protection for their choices but people who survived are not permitted to celebrate their lives. Readers, if you believe in fascism, go to your nearest voting booth and vote for fascists, until you can find a prof somewhere who explains that voting is outdated: We evolved to need fascism.News
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