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Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language.

Ludwig Wittgenstein, 1953, aphorism 109

My recent exchanges with Jeffrey Shallit illustrate this aphorism. Our disagreement is not over the substance of the matter. Instead, our disagreement hinges on Shallit’s abuse of language to make a trivial point. Shallit and I disagreed over whether an excerpt from Hamlet’s soliloquy could be considered “random” in any meaningful sense of that word. In the course of that exchange Shallit said this:

Barry, and all ID advocates, need to understand one basic point. It’s one that Wesley Elsberry and I have been harping about for years. Here it is: the opposite of ‘random’ is not ‘designed’.

The problem with Shallit’s assertion is that neither he nor Wesley Elsberry get to decide what “random” means. In linguistic theory words acquire meaning in a language by convention among the speakers of that language, not by diktat, and as I will demonstrate below, in the English language “random” does in fact mean the opposite of “design.”

In order to determine whether “random” is the opposite of “design” we must first establish what those two words mean. Wikipedia defines “random” as follows:

Randomness means lack of pattern or predictability in events. Randomness suggests a non-order or non-coherence in a sequence of symbols or steps, such that there is no intelligible pattern or combination.

Thus, a random string of text is one in which there is no intelligible order, coherence, or pattern.

Webster’s Dictionary defines “design” as follows:

1. to prepare the preliminary sketch or the plans for (a work to be executed), especially to plan the form and structure of;
2. to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully;
3. to intend for a definite purpose;

Any string of text that results from “design” will definitely have an intelligible order or pattern.

Therefore, Shallit is wrong. “Random” is in fact the opposite of “designed.”

Shallit insists, however, that Hamlet is in fact “random” as that term is used in algorithmic information theory. For what he means by this, Wikipedia again:

Algorithmic information theory studies, among other topics, what constitutes a random sequence. The central idea is that a string of bits is random if and only if it is shorter than any computer program that can produce that string (Kolmogorov randomness)—this means that random strings are those that cannot be compressed.

In his first post Shallit ran both a string of keyboard banging gibberish and Hamlet through a computer program,

If we want to test this [i.e. randomness] in a quantitative sense, we can use a lossless compression scheme such as gzip, an implementation of Lempel-Ziv. A truly random file will not be significantly compressible, with very very high probability. So a good test of randomness is simply to attempt to compress the file and see if it is roughly the same size as the original. The larger the produced file, the more random the original string was.

Here are the results. String #1 is of length 502, using the ‘wc’ program. (This also counts characters like the carriage returns separating the lines.) String #2 is of length 545.

Using gzip on Darwin OS on my Mac, I get the following results: string #1 compresses to a file of size 308 and string #2 compresses to a file of size 367. String #2’s compressed version is bigger and therefore more random than string #1: exactly the opposite of what Arrington implied!

What is going on here? Despite the facetious title of my third post Shallit is not barking mad. Nor is he stupid. Why on earth would an obviously intelligent person write a sentence like “[Hamlet’s] compressed version is bigger and therefore more random than [gibberish]”?

Please see the Wittgenstein quotation above. The simple and obvious fact of the matter is that the string from Hamlet does not conform to the English word “random” to even the slightest degree. The string was carefully designed. Therefore, it has zero randomness. Hence, it cannot be “more random” than any string of text that displays any randomness whatsoever. Certainly it cannot be “more random” than a string of gibberish. But in his eagerness to discredit my analysis, Shallit lost sight of that fact. In short, he lost the battle against the bewitchment of his intelligence by means of language.

Sure, the compressed version of Hamlet is bigger than the compressed version of gibberish. And if one insists on defining relative randomness in terms of relative compressibility Hamlet is “more random.” Here’s the problem with that approach. It is glaringly obvious that Hamlet is not in any degree “random” whatsoever as that word is used by English speakers. Therefore, by its very nature it is not subject to a relative randomness analysis except to the extent one observes that it is totally non-random and any string that is even partially random is therefore more random. So what did Shallit accomplish when he insisted that under his esoteric definition of “random” Hamlet is “more random” than gibberish? He made a trivial mathematical point, and in the process made himself look foolish.

My advice to Shallit. Next time you are fighting Wittgenstein’s battle against the bewitchment of your intelligence by means of language, fight harder.

Comments
E.Seigner@31 writes,
Now that somebody actually made the measurements, he keeps whining.
Now, I am don't blame E.S for not pointing out that the measurements are wrong; it is not really his job. So I will go ahead and do it. The measurements were wrong. Mere assertion? I don't think so. First, although E.S characterized BA's defense as "whining", it was not. BA merely pointed out that the form of the measurement does not correspond to reality. Second, as I've alluded to in a couple of posts, one in a previous OP and once here @7, measurements of strings for randomness is NOT THE SAME as measurements of the (most compressed) codes that could have produced them. Ok, although I do not blame E.S for not describing the problems with the measurements himself, I now ask him to address the issue of compressibility -- not of the strings, but of the sources that could have produce them.Tim
October 9, 2014
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Barry's gibberish was designed to be gibberish. If this is the case, then it should not be surprising that some hallmarks of design can be found in it if one looks hard enough.* But focusing on patterns found in the gibberish is to miss the point that the string is meant to be representative and not literal. Tim spells this out clearly @7 above, but it appears that detractors are more interested in continuing to miss the point. * Fun fact: Random number generators in computer games often aren't, at least not completely. Why? Because most game players have a concept of random that doesn't quite line up with truly random outcomes. True randomness may mean that players suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune more often than they feel they ought to. In a similar way, most people will miss the mark when they try to compose something that looks random to them.Phinehas
October 9, 2014
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MF has a point about deterministic systems. The motion of the moon relative to the earth is indeed a non-designed/non-random system. MF writes: “The opposite of random in its non-technical everyday use is something like ‘determined’ or ‘predictable’. If it is designed then that is one of the ways it can be predictable but it is not the only way.” Certainly he is correct. I never said that “designed” is “the” opposite of “random.” “Determined" is another opposite of random. When I was writing the OP I considered giving a nod to deterministic systems. Perhaps I should have, because as MF has inadvertently highlighted, doing so leads to the explanatory filter. MF aptly notes there are random strings and there are non-random strings. Among non-random strings there are two possible explanations: (1) determined strings and (2) designed strings. Just so. Voila! The explanatory filter: 1. Is it contingent? Yes, go to next step. No, deterministic system cannot be ruled out. 2. Is it complex? Yes, go to next step. No, random system cannot be ruled out. 3. Is it specified? Yes, it is designed. No, random system cannot be ruled out. Thanks Mark.Barry Arrington
October 9, 2014
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"just admit that you were wrong" ,,, LOL, I wonder when that will be? i.e. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/09/article-2535709-1A7D371000000578-703_964x531.jpgbornagain77
October 9, 2014
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MF@33 quotes Wittgenstein then offers this piece of work,
It is a paragraph about how to do philosophy. He is saying we should examine how we use ordinary language (using commonly agreed meanings) and how that can confuse us. It is nothing to do with battles over the correct definitions of words or using words in technical or specialist ways. I don’t know if he ever tackled randomness, but if he did his approach would be to examine the everyday non-technical use of the word random and see how that can mislead or confuse.
(my emphasis, Tim) I include as much context as possible so that MF won't come back to the same old canard (lack of context). Notice the structure of the writing. From it, we are left to assume that in the phrase "It is nothing . . " the "it" refers to the quotation and therefore Wittgenstein's thought. Here, MF, is completely wrong. Wittgenstein would have said that the use of words in technical or specialist ways actually has everything to do with it. I don't care if MF began his post with, "Having just returned from my vigil at Ludwig's grave . . . " His take on Wittgenstein here is just plain wrong. The latter part that references "everyday non-technical use" is exactly the opposite of what Wittgenstein would have said. I direct your attention to his Philosophical Investigations. MF, please, if possible, clarify your statement. Or better yet, just admit that you were wrong.Tim
October 9, 2014
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E Seigner:
For me it was immediately clear that if he wants to make a valid point he needs to measure the strings in some way.
That's right and we can measure them.
Now that somebody actually made the measurements,
And what makes you think the methodology used is correct?
Funny how ID is supposed to be science,
ID is science as it fits the definition and does so better than the materialistic alternatives.
I’ve been laughing for weeks already.
Umm we have been laughing at your ignorance since you showed up here.Joe
October 9, 2014
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Mark FRank:
This incidentally explains why string 1 was not random.
Yet it is random as it was created in a haphazard way.
ID is about detecting design by looking at the patterns in strings.
Not entirely.
ID needs a method of detecting randomness without knowing anything about the origins of the string.
That is incorrect. We have a methodology for detecting design and people use it every day.Joe
October 9, 2014
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I intended to stay out of this debate but when I see Wittgenstein quotes abused I have to respond. The often quoted line is the last sentence of paragraph 109 of the Philosophical Investigations. There is another sentence which expresses better the overall significance of the paragraph: These are not of course empirical problems; they are solved, rather, by looking into the workings of our language, and that in such a way as to make us recognise those workings: in despite of an urge to misunderstand them. It is a paragraph about how to do philosophy. He is saying we should examine how we use ordinary language (using commonly agreed meanings) and how that can confuse us. It is nothing to do with battles over the correct definitions of words or using words in technical or specialist ways. I don't know if he ever tackled randomness, but if he did his approach would be to examine the everyday non-technical use of the word random and see how that can mislead or confuse. Wittgenstein was all for careful and precise use of language. In particular he would object to Barry’s erroneous statement that "random" (in any commonly used sense) is the opposite of "design". It is true that, using "random" in a non-technical sense, if something is designed then it is not random, but that doesn’t mean "designed" is the opposite of "random". If random were the opposite of designed then anything that was not random would be designed.  And of course there are numerous examples of things that no one would describe as random that are not designed e.g. the time between new moons. The opposite of random in its non-technical everyday use is something like “determined” or “predictable”. If it is designed then that is one of the ways it can be predictable but it is not the only way. This incidentally explains why string 1 was not random. The pattern of characters was more predictable than it first appears.  This was because of the process used to generate it – hammering away “haphazardly” at a keyboard. The structure of the keyboard plus the human tendency to repeat certain physical patterns means that there is a lot of repetition of sequences of characters e.g. “asd” “vio” which is what makes it compressible, predictable and non-random. It may not jump out at you as the Hamlet quote does but it is there and that is what the compression algorithm revealed. Look at this from an ID perspective. ID is about detecting design by looking at the patterns in strings. Random is important because if a string is random then chance cannot be ruled out and design is not detected. But if it is about detecting design then ruling out randomness because it is designed it no use. The whole point is we don't know if it is designed or not. ID needs a method of detecting randomness without knowing anything about the origins of the string. Which is why William Dembski puts such emphasis on KC compression which is the method Shallit used!Mark Frank
October 9, 2014
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iudex non calculatDiEb
October 8, 2014
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Johnnyb @ 5 wrote
This idea that doing philosophy somehow that a subject is permanently excluded from science is patently ridiculous . . .
This is so true, johnnyb! Science is founded on philosophy, and was once called natural philosophy before some academic thought the term was demeaning and did not adequately represent the iron-clad determination to appear as the mechanistic high priests of Ultimate Truth by measuring something to many digits and then announcing some philosophical leap. I enjoyed this . . . http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Philosophy/axioms/axioms/node44.html God help us if we ever turn the earth over to scientists who know they're right. -QQuerius
October 8, 2014
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Barry invented those strings when talking to me. For me it was immediately clear that if he wants to make a valid point he needs to measure the strings in some way. Now that somebody actually made the measurements, he keeps whining. Funny how ID is supposed to be science, but as soon as something gets actually measured, ID theorists are horrified. Let them dig their hole deeper. I've been laughing for weeks already.E.Seigner
October 8, 2014
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rhampton7:
Patterns do indeed come from chaos. See Chaos Theory
Sure. Living organisms also came out of dirt and fish evolved into birds all by themselves. It's kind of like saying that singing frogs cause rain. Arguments from authority are about as valid as "the dog ate my homework." Bring out your argument and watch me tear it down.Mapou
October 8, 2014
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Actually, that might be true, Mung. A chemistry prof of mine used to paraphrase H.L. Mencken: "For every problem in Chemistry, there's a solution. Neat. Plausible. And wrong." ;-) -QQuerius
October 8, 2014
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Mapou, Patterns do indeed come from chaos. See Chaos Theoryrhampton7
October 8, 2014
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Folks, we’re trying to do science here. Please leave your common sense at the door. I like that. Mung, in its trollish way, says it sarcastically (correct me if I'm wrong). But it works, and has worked in science at least since Galileo!Daniel King
October 8, 2014
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Folks, we're trying to do science here. Please leave your common sense at the door.Mung
October 8, 2014
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DiEB @ 24: If I had to resort to nonsensical distinctions ("special version of gibberish" really?), I am pretty sure I would change sides. No need to respond. This discussion is no longer fruitful. PS: I imagine the moderation queue is annoying. You should have avoided the trollish behavior that got you put there.Barry Arrington
October 8, 2014
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J. Shallit said:
String #2's compressed version is bigger and therefore more random than string #1: exactly the opposite of what Arrington implied!
That's quite different from
“[Hamlet’s] compressed version is bigger and therefore more random than [gibberish].”
1. String #1 is not "Hamlet", just an excerpt of ca. 500 bytes. 2. It's not about gibberish in general, but about your special version of "gibberish", represented by string #2. So, are you changing sides? PS: the moderation queue is quite annoying!DiEb
October 8, 2014
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DiEb @ 22:
The claim is not that “Hamlet is more random than gibberish”, but that your gibberish is quite surprisingly complex.
Now you are just making stuff up. That is precisely the claim. This is what Shallit said: “[Hamlet’s] compressed version is bigger and therefore more random than [gibberish]." DiEb, if I found that I had to make stuff up in order to support my side, I hope that I would change sides.Barry Arrington
October 8, 2014
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The claim is not that "Hamlet is more random than gibberish", but that your gibberish is quite surprisingly complex. Look at it that way: you have created a string of ca. 500 bytes which was compressed to a string of length 308. What is the portion of strings of length 500 can be compressed by gzip to a length of less than 400 bytes? At best, 256^400/256^500 = 2^(-800) = 1.5x10^(-241) Coming up with such a string randomly is very surprising indeed.DiEb
October 8, 2014
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DiEb,
but are not good at mathematics
If being good at mathematics means I have to conclude that Hamlet is more random than gibberish, so much the worse for mathematics. Happily, I don't think it does.Barry Arrington
October 8, 2014
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Barry, I would be asking questions for clarification. I doubt I would get any acceptable answers but I would be open to such a possibility.Joe
October 8, 2014
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Good point, Barry- if Neil, DiEB and Jeffrey are correct it would be best to use long, common words as passwords.
No.DiEb
October 8, 2014
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Don’t use Hamlet as your password. That’s the purpose that is served by concluding that Hamlet is more random than gibberish? OK.
You lost me there: string compression indicated that both strings are very unlikely to be random (in the mathematical sense of "coming from an uniform distribution"). So, (parts of) both strings are not good passwords, whether one is gibberish or not. If the whole exercise of comparing the randomness had a purpose, I'd say it was just to show that you may have a way with words, but are not good at mathematics - which isn't helpful when it comes to discuss mathematical ideas like those proposed in W. Dembski's and R. Marks's papers. J. Shallit succeeded in making this point - with your ample help.DiEb
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Joe @ 15. I wonder what you or I would do if a prominent ID proponent said something aggressively stupid on the order of "Hamlet is more random than gibberish." Would we circle the wagons for our boy like DiEb, Mark Frank and Neil Rickert have been doing? I hope not. But maybe we would.Barry Arrington
October 8, 2014
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I may be mistaken, but isn't one of the hallmarks of a "random" sample (string in this case) its unpredictability? In other words, you shouldn't be able to predict the subsequent element of a string of independent characters by evaluating any of the prior elements of that string? I'm fairly certain that the key difference between an intelligible string, and unintelligible gibberish, is our ability to predict the subsequent characters of a string such that we recognize a word, and then a phrase, and then an idea, etc... If this is true, then it holds that BA's String #2 is algorithmically less random than String #1.ciphertext
October 8, 2014
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Good point, Barry- if Neil, DiEB and Jeffrey are correct it would be best to use long, common words as passwords. All I can say is "good luck with that".Joe
October 8, 2014
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Barry, and all ID advocates, need to understand one basic point. It’s one that Wesley Elsberry and I have been harping about for years. Here it is: the opposite of ‘random’ is not ‘designed’.
Not even wrong. Patterns do not come of chaos. Consider that all the zillions of electrons and other particles in the universe were designed. Even the curvature of the earth, ocean waves, sand dunes and alluvial deposits were designed in the sense that they obey non-random laws. Where did those laws come from? Certainly not from chaos.Mapou
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Neil Rickert:
If you want to claim that ID is science, you should be using the scientific meaning of “random”.
Not when it says that Hamlet's soliloquy is more random than haphazard tapping on a keyboard. Also it only seems to work when there are well-defined probabilities/ statistical properties.
If you prefer to go by the common usage meaning of “random”, then you are implicitly conceding that ID is philosophy and not science.
Yet with respect to random mutations the common usage is used. With respect to ID it all depends on the context- the context determines the applicable definition. Biology online has this to say about random:
1. Force; violence. For courageously the two kings newly fought with great random and force. (E. Hall) 2. A roving motion; course without definite direction; want of direction, rule, or method; hazard; chance; commonly used in the phrase at random, that is, without a settled point of direction; at hazard. Counsels, when they fly At random, sometimes hit most happily. (Herrick) O, many a shaft, at random sent, finds mark the archer little meant ! (Sir W. Scott) 3. Distance to which a missile is cast; range; reach; as, the random of a rifle ball. 4. (Science: chemical) The direction of a rake-vein. Origin: OE. Randon, OF. Randon force, violence, rapidity, a randon, de randon, violently, suddenly, rapidly, prob. Of German origin; cf. G. Rand edge, border, OHG. Rant shield, edge of a shield, akin to E. Rand, n. See Rand. going at random or by chance; done or made at hazard, or without settled direction, aim, or purpose; hazarded without previous calculation; left to chance; haphazard; as, a random guess. Some random truths he can impart. (Wordsworth) So sharp a spur to the lazy, and so strong a bridle to the random. (H. (Science: medicine) Spencer) Random courses, stonework consisting of stones of unequal sizes fitted together, but not in courses nor always with flat beds.
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DiEb, Don't use Hamlet as your password. That's the purpose that is served by concluding that Hamlet is more random than gibberish? OK. Barry Arrington
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