6 Replies to “Jerry Coyne and Determinism

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    AaronS1978 says:

    Jerry Coyne is obviously not keeping up with current Neuroscience he might wanna check out https://neurophil-freewill.org/

    They are current they do not support his point of view

    He’s either ignored or is unaware of the stochastic model, he either doesn’t know about Aaron Schurger or he’s willfully ignorant

    That website provide everybody with some of the biggest names in the science of Free will

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    BobRyan says:

    Does Jerry Coyne, or other purveyors of mindlessness, look for traffic before crossing the road. If one were to truly believe there is no free will and everything is predetermined, then there should be no cause to look for traffic.

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    JohnB says:

    🙂 In a determinist world there are no contradictory conversations.

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    bornagain77 says:

    I love this blatantly self-refuting statement by Jerry Coyne, “Free will is an illusion so convincing that people simply refuse to believe that we don’t have it.”

    THE ILLUSION OF FREE WILL – Sam Harris – 2012
    Excerpt: “Free will is an illusion so convincing that people simply refuse to believe that we don’t have it.”
    – Jerry Coyne

    🙂 It is amazing that someone can actually write a sentence like that and not have their head explode from the logical contradiction contained within it. 🙂


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    ellijacket says:

    So is his determinism making him argue for determinism? That just seems odd. What are the chances that pre-determined actions will line up with the truth?

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    mike1962 says:

    BA77: I love this blatantly self-refuting statement by Jerry Coyne

    Yeah, I always giggle when I read stupid stuff like that. They never specify what the illusion is of. When one sees a mirage that looks like a pool of water in the distance, one may be mistaken about what one is seeing when one thinks “that is water.” But if water did not exist, nobody would ever call a mirage “water.” Illusions are mistaken apprehensions of something real.

    C.S. Lewis wrote something along the lines that if free will didn’t exist (at least to some small degree) we would never know we didn’t have it. The concept of free will simply could not exist in a mind that didn’t have it. Just like a universe where everyone was blind would never know they were blind, and would never have concepts of sight and blindness. Both terms would be meaningless. And yet people who use the term “free will” do have a real concept in mind. How can they in a universe without free will? “Free will” would be meaningless. The term would never have arisen.

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