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Jonathan Wells on Darwinism, Science, and Junk DNA

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Jonathan Wells

On November 5, I posted a response to people who falsely claim that I set out to oppose Darwinism on orders from Reverend Sun Myung Moon. Since then, many comments have been posted—some of them critical of my book, The Myth of Junk DNA. Unfortunately, other commitments prevent me from responding to every detail (so many critics, so little time!). So I have selected some representative comments posted by two people using the pseudonyms “Gregory” and “paulmc.”

First, “Gregory” asked how many biologists I think are “Darwinists.” In my original post, I wrote:

By “Darwinism,” I mean the claim that all living things are descended from one or a few common ancestors, modified solely by unguided natural processes such as variation and selection. For the sake of brevity, I use the term here also to include Neo-Darwinism, which attributes new variations to genetic mutations.

By “Darwinists,” then, I mean people who subscribe to that view. Having worked in close proximity with biologists for over two decades, I can confidently say that most of them—at least in the U.S.—are Darwinists in this sense.

“Gregory” also wrote that “without ‘doing science,’ Jonathan Wells personally concluded ‘evident design’ in ‘the mountains of Mendocino county.’ Thus, the argument that ‘intelligent design is a purely scientific pursuit’ is obviously untrue.” I’m not sure what “Gregory” means here by a “purely scientific pursuit.” Intelligent design (ID) holds that we can infer from evidence in nature that some features of the world, including some features of living things, are better explained by an intelligent cause than by unguided natural process such as mutation and selection. Unlike creationism, ID does not start with the Bible or religious doctrines.

So if “science” means making inferences from evidence in nature—as opposed to inventing naturalistic explanations for everything we see (as materialistic philosophy would have us do)—then ID is science.

Second, “paulmc” wrote that “there are a number of strong lines of evidence that suggest junk DNA comprises a majority of the human genome.” The lines of evidence cited by “paulmc” included (1) mutational (genetic) load, (2) lack of sequence conservation, and (3) a report that “putative junk” has been removed from mice “with no observable effects.” In addition, (4) “paulmc” wrote that “there is an active other side to the debate” about pervasive transcription. I’ll address these four points in order.

Before I start, however, I’d like to say that I’m not particularly interested in debates over what percentage of our genome is currently known to be functional. Whatever the current percentage might be, it is increasing every week as new discoveries are reported—and such discoveries will probably continue into the indefinite future. So people who claim that most of our DNA is junk, and that this is evidence for unguided evolution and evidence against ID, are making a “Darwin of the gaps” argument that faces the inevitable prospect of having to retreat in the face of new discoveries.

Now, to the points raised by “paulmc”:

(1) Mutational Load. In 1972, biologist Susumu Ohno (one of the first to use the term “junk DNA”) estimated that humans and mice have a 1 in 100,000 chance per generation of suffering a harmful mutation. Biologists had already discovered that only about 2% of our DNA codes for proteins; Ohno suggested that if the percentage were any higher we would accumulate an “unbearably heavy genetic load” from harmful mutations in our protein-coding DNA. His reasoning provided a theoretical justification for the claim that the vast majority of our genome is functionless junk—what Ohno called “the remains of nature’s experiments which failed”—and that this junk bears most of our mutational load.

According to “paulmc”, this is the first of “a number of strong lines of evidence that suggest junk DNA comprises a majority of the human genome.” But Ohno’s claim was a theoretical one, based on various assumptions about how often spontaneous mutations occur and how they affect the genome.

As of last year, however, the accurate determination of mutation rates was still controversial. According to a 2010 paper:

The rate of spontaneous mutation in natural populations is a fundamental parameter for many evolutionary phenomena. Because the rate of mutation is generally low, most of what is currently known about mutation has been obtained through indirect, complex and imprecise methodological approaches.

Furthermore, genomes are more complex and integrated than Ohno realized, so the effects of mutations are not as straightforward as he thought. As another 2010 paper put it,

Recent studies in D. melanogaster have revealed unexpectedly complex genetic architectures of many quantitative traits, with large numbers of pleiotropic genes and alleles with sex-, environment- and genetic background-specific effects.

In other words, the first line of evidence cited by “paulmc” is not evidence at all, but a 40-year-old theoretical prediction based on questionable assumptions. The proper way to reason scientifically is not “Ohno predicted theoretically that the vast majority of our DNA is junk, therefore it is,” but “If much of our non-protein-coding DNA turns out to be functional, then Ohno’s theoretical prediction was wrong.”

(2) Sequence Conservation. According to evolutionary theory, if two lineages diverge from a common ancestor that possesses regions of non-protein-coding DNA, and those regions are non-functional, then they will accumulate random mutations that are not weeded out by natural selection. Many generations later, the corresponding non-protein coding regions in the two descendant lineages will be very different. On the other hand, if the original non-protein-coding DNA was functional, then natural selection will tend to weed out mutations affecting that function. Evolution of the functional regions will be “constrained,” and many generations later the sequences in the two descendant lineages will still be similar, or “conserved.”

As “paulmc” pointed out , however, many regions of non-protein-coding DNA appear to “evolve without evidence of this constraint;” their sequences are not conserved. According to “paulmc,” this “implies that changes to these sequences do not affect fitness… we expect that for them to be functional they need some degree of evolutionary constraint,” and the absence of such constraint points to their “being putatively junk.”

Not so. Although sequence conservation in divergent organisms suggests function, the absence of sequence conservation does not indicate lack of function. Indeed, according to modern Darwinian theory, species diverge because of mutational changes in their functional DNA. Obviously, if such DNA were constrained, then evolution could not occur.

In 2006 and 2007, two teams of scientists found that certain non-protein-coding regions that are highly conserved in vertebrates (suggesting function) are dramatically unconserved between humans and chimps (suggesting… rapid evolution!). More specifically, one of the teams showed that one unconserved region contains an RNAcoding segment involved in human brain development.

Furthermore, the analysis by “paulmc” assumes that the only thing that matters in nonprotein-coding DNA is its nucleotide sequence. This assumption is unwarranted. As I pointed out in Chapter Seven of my book, non-protein-coding DNA can function in ways that are largely independent of its precise nucleotide sequence. So absence of sequence conservation does not constitute evidence against functionality.

(3) Mice without “junk” DNA. In 2004, Edward Rubin] and a team of scientists at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory in California reported that they had engineered mice missing over a million base pairs of non-protein-coding (“junk”) DNA—about 1% of the mouse genome—and that they could “see no effect in them.”

But molecular biologist Barbara Knowles (who reported the same month that other regions of non-protein-coding mouse DNA were functional) cautioned that the Lawrence Berkeley study didn’t prove that non-protein-coding DNA has no function. “Those mice were alive, that’s what we know about them,” she said. “We don’t know if they have abnormalities that we don’t test for.”And University of California biomolecular engineer David Haussler said said that the deleted non-protein-coding DNA could have effects that the study missed. “Survival in the laboratory for a generation or two is not the same as successful competition in the wild for millions of years,” he argued.

In 2010, Rubin was part of another team of scientists that engineered mice missing a 58,000-base stretch of so-called “junk” DNA. The team found that the DNA-deficient mice appeared normal until they (along with a control group of normal mice) were fed a high-fat, high-cholesterol diet for 20 weeks. By the end of the study, a substantially higher proportion of the DNA-deficient mice had died from heart disease. Clearly, removing so-called “junk” DNA can have effects that appear only later or under other
circumstances.

(4) Pervasive transcription. After 2000, the results of genome-sequencing projects suggested that much of the mammalian genome—including much of the 98% that does not code for proteins—is transcribed into RNA. Scientists working on one project reported in 2007 that preliminary data provided “convincing evidence that the genome is pervasively transcribed, such that the majority of its bases can be found in primary transcripts, including non-protein-coding transcripts.”

Since an organism struggling to survive would presumably not waste its resources producing large amounts of useless RNA, this widespread transcription suggested to many biologists that much non-protein-coding DNA is probably functional. In 2010, four University of Toronto  researchers published an article concluding that “the genome is not as pervasively transcribed as previously reported.” Yet the Toronto researchers had biased their sample by eliminating repetitive sequences with a software program called RepeatMasker, the official description of which states: “On average, almost 50% of a human genomic DNA sequence currently will be masked by the program.” In the fraction that remained, the Toronto researchers based their results “primarily on analysis of PolyA+ enriched RNA”—sequences that have a long tail containing many adenines. Yet molecular biologists had already reported in 2005 that RNA transcripts lacking the long tail are twice as abundant in humans as PolyA+ transcripts.

In other words, the Toronto researchers not only excluded half of the human genome with RepeatMasker, but they also ignored two thirds of the RNA in the remaining half. It is no wonder that they found fewer transcripts than had been found by the hundreds of other scientists studying the human genome. The Toronto group’s results were disputed in 2010 by an international team of eleven scientists, and the group’s flawed methodology was sharply criticized in 2011 by another international team of seventeen scientists.

So “paulmc” was technically but trivially correct in writing that there are two sides to the debate over pervasive transcription. There are also at least two sides to the larger debate over the functionality of non-protein-coding DNA. But I leave it to open-minded readers of The Myth of Junk DNA to decide whether “paulmc” was correct in claiming that “the science at the moment really does fall on one side of this: large amounts of putative junk exist in the human genome.”

Oh, one last thing: “paulmc” referred to an online review  of my book by University of Toronto professor Larry Moran—a review that “paulmc” called both extensive and thorough. Well, saturation bombing is extensive and thorough, too. Although “paulmc” admitted to not having read more than the Preface to The Myth of Junk DNA, I have read Mr. Moran’s review, which is so driven by confused thinking and malicious misrepresentations of my work—not to mention personal insults—that addressing it would be like trying to reason with a lynch mob.

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Well, I put this in another thread that has gone a bit stale, so am repeating part of my comment here, with apologies. ---------- For some reason the Dawkins and the Millers of the world have shown a great deal of interest in the idea of junk DNA supporting evolution, and just as importantly for their worldviews, contradicting the concept of intelligent design. Junk DNA is, in essence, just another example of the invalid “bad design” line of arguments. The reason I say their feet need to be held to the fire is because they have clearly gone on record saying that a large amount of non-functioning DNA is evidence for evolution and against design. Now that the evidence is starting to lean the other direction I am not at all interested in letting them off the hook easily with any backpedaling (although, astoundingly, some of the folks I cited haven’t even started backpedaling, as they seem to be oblivious about recent research). It is absolutely reasonable to point out that their expectation, arising from their viewpoint in favor of evolution and against design, is starting to be falsified and to insist that they admit as much. The bottom line on so-called “junk DNA” is this. 1. There is very little logical reason to assume that there is a lot of junk DNA. The possible exception being some excision experiments, but we have to be extremely careful to not misinterpret those results. Specifically, we cannot say that a particular part of DNA has no function based on an excision experiment. At most, we can say that, given the short amount of time the observation was conducted, it appears that removal of a particular part of DNA did not have an adverse impact on the organism in its current state. The reason we have to limit this inference is that we know (i) some processes occur only at specific stages of an organism’s life, and (ii) there is some redundancy built in. Think of it this way: If I am launching a Saturn V rocket to put an Apollo spacecraft in orbit and one of the five engines cuts out shortly after launch, the fact that they were still able to attain orbit does *not* mean that the cut engine did not have function, and I cannot validly claim that it didn’t have an important function just because that function wasn’t realized. Looking at DNA and proclaiming that we don’t know what most of it does, and therefore, it probably doesn’t have function, is intellectually equivalent to someone opening up a supercomputer and proclaiming that most of the parts must not have function because they don’t know what the parts do. It just doesn’t follow, and there is no reason to take that position. 2. In contrast, there are very good reasons to think that the great majority, though perhaps not all, of junk DNA in fact has function. I will give just three off the top of my head. A. First of all, the non-functioning DNA argument (just like vestigal organs) has an abysmal track record, so we should be very cautious about jumping on that bandwagon. Introns are now known to be critical to alternative splicing. Pseudogenes help regulate DNA. LINEs and SINEs have known functions, as do certain transposons. And on and on. Adopting non-function as an initial assumption puts us on the wrong side of history. B. More importantly, there are numerous known biological functions, the programming for which has not yet been discovered or fully elucidated. Just looking at any basic biology text and drilling down to the details reveals numerous functions that must be in place for almost any meaningful biological activity. If we spent a day, we could come up with a list of thousands of known functions, every single one of which must, by definition, have some kind of instantiation in DNA or elsewhere in the cell. As a result, we know, by definition, that many thousands of functional programming elements remain to be discovered; indeed vastly more functional elements remain to be discovered than the number that have been discovered to date. C. From a basic engineering standpoint the idea of large amounts of useless DNA is problematic. Regardless of whether one thinks our current DNA came about by design or by random chemical processes, everyone understands that DNA, and the related cellular mechanisms, carry out an absolutely stunning symphony of carefully-orchestrated processes. It is also known that most DNA, including so-called “junk DNA” is transcribed at one level or another. So here is what the junk DNA proponents would have us believe: a sophisticated storage, retrieval, transcription, translation, error-checking, sheparding, building, functioning orchestra of thousands of concurrent processes just happens to take place with incredible fidelity from hour-to-hour, day-to-day, indeed generation-to-generation, while being almost completely overwhelmed in terms of volume by processes of storage, retrieval, transcription and translation of complete nonsense, which, at the very least uses precious resources, and at worst, has the ability to completely muck up the chemical orchestra and bring the whole system to a grinding halt. Think of it this way: Although our modern computer operating systems can occasionally handle a minor error here or there without crashing, in most cases a significant error will bring the system to its knees and require a reboot, despite huge efforts expended to get the operating system right in the first place and to prevent viruses and the like. Yet we are expected to believe that the human operating system, which is vastly more complicated and which operates much more robustly than any computer operating system, can swim in a literal sea of nonsense and garbage. It would be like having a computer filled to the brim with viruses, malware, nonsense strings and the like that are regularly being accessed and run, without being any worse off for it, indeed, without any noticeable or identifiable delays or hiccups. Such an idea is simply absurd, and might be best described as the “stupid man’s view of engineering.” I doubt you hold to this view, but it certainly applies to Dawkins and similar folks who would have us believe that the “good” DNA just by happenstance works fine, thank you very much, while swimming in a sea of “junk.” ——- There may be some DNA that has no function. Certainly even the most carefully designed machine can degrade or break down over time. But outside of materialistic philosophy there is no reason to think that much or most DNA is junk, while there is every reason to think that much or most DNA is functional. I don’t know whether we can put a precise number on it, but I would venture that more than 90% of DNA will eventually be shown to have function.Eric Anderson
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I have read Mr. Moran’s review, which is so driven by confused thinking and malicious misrepresentations of my work—not to mention personal insults—that addressing it would be like trying to reason with a lynch mob. Moran is particularly vicious concerning challenges presented by ID proponents. He's a disturbed individual. (That's not a personal attack, just an empirical observation, and I hope he gets over it somehow.) Another factor in biology that should be considered is redundancy and backup systems, which are standard fare in human engineering. Redundant/backup systems ensure survival if one or more of the primary systems is disabled or compromised. In aviation, fly-by-wire systems (in which the pilot does not directly influence the aircraft's control surfaces, but provides input to computer systems that execute the pilot's commands) provide three or more redundant computers that process the pilot's commands and vote about the outcome. If one computer disagrees, the majority wins. In the final analysis three things are clear: 1) Biological systems are engineered. At every turn they provide more evidence of this because of their functionality and fault tolerance. 2) Darwinists are chasing a rainbow in their attempt to explain away engineering with a process (randomness) that is the antithesis of what is required to produce the result in question. 3) Darwinists have a philosophical precommitment that will not allow them to follow the evidence where it leads.GilDodgen
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I guess it would be helpful to point out just how 'spooky', to use Einstein's infamous word, it is to find quantum entanglement/information pervasively within DNA;
Light and Quantum Entanglement Reflect Some Characteristics Of God – video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4102182/
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Thanks Dr. Wells for clearing up 'the smoke and mirrors'. notes:
Francis Collins, Darwin of the Gaps, and the Fallacy Of Junk DNA - video http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/francis_collins_is_one_of040361.html
further question: How does neo-Darwinism explain chemically impossible things in DNA?
Does DNA Have Telepathic Properties?-A Galaxy Insight Excerpt: DNA has been found to have a bizarre ability to put itself together, even at a distance, when according to known science it shouldn’t be able to. Explanation: None, at least not yet.,,, The recognition of similar sequences in DNA’s chemical subunits, occurs in a way unrecognized by science. There is no known reason why the DNA is able to combine the way it does, and from a current theoretical standpoint this feat should be chemically impossible. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/04/does-dna-have-t.html Quantum Dots Spotlight DNA-Repair Proteins in Motion - March 2010 Excerpt: "How this system works is an important unanswered question in this field," he said. "It has to be able to identify very small mistakes in a 3-dimensional morass of gene strands. It's akin to spotting potholes on every street all over the country and getting them fixed before the next rush hour." Dr. Bennett Van Houten - of note: A bacterium has about 40 team members on its pothole crew. That allows its entire genome to be scanned for errors in 20 minutes, the typical doubling time.,, These smart machines can apparently also interact with other damage control teams if they cannot fix the problem on the spot. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100311123522.htm
Quantum Action confirmed in DNA by direct empirical research;
DNA Can Discern Between Two Quantum States, Research Shows - June 2011 Excerpt: -- DNA -- can discern between quantum states known as spin. - The researchers fabricated self-assembling, single layers of DNA attached to a gold substrate. They then exposed the DNA to mixed groups of electrons with both directions of spin. Indeed, the team's results surpassed expectations: The biological molecules reacted strongly with the electrons carrying one of those spins, and hardly at all with the others. The longer the molecule, the more efficient it was at choosing electrons with the desired spin, while single strands and damaged bits of DNA did not exhibit this property. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110331104014.htm
verse and music:
Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. ROYAL TAILOR – HOLD ME TOGETHER – music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbpJ2FeeJgw
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