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New Scientist: LIGO gravitational waves discovery in grave doubt

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The 2015 find may have been an illusion:

The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory collaboration, better known as LIGO, switched on its upgraded detectors on 12 September 2015. Within 48 hours, it had made its first detection. It took a few months before the researchers were confident enough in the signal to announce a discovery. Headlines around the world soon heralded one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of the past century. In 2017, a Nobel prize followed. Five other waves have since been spotted.

Or have they? That’s the question asked by a group of physicists who have done their own analysis of the data. “We believe that LIGO has failed to make a convincing case for the detection of any gravitational wave event,” says Andrew Jackson, the group’s spokesperson. According to them, the breakthrough was nothing of the sort: it was all an illusion.Michael Brooks, “Exclusive: Grave doubts over LIGO’s discovery of gravitational waves” at New Scientist (paywall)

Was it just another PC moment in science?

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At Nature: How gravitational waves might help explain fundamental cosmology. But do they exist?

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At Forbes: Gravitational waves detection was all just noise, some researchers say

At Forbes: Gravitational waves detection was all just noise, some researchers say


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6 Replies to “New Scientist: LIGO gravitational waves discovery in grave doubt

  1. 1
    daveS says:

    I’m going to predict the LIGO results will survive this analysis.

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    FourFaces says:

    LIGO is the biggest scientific scam in modern times. Gravity is instantaneous just as Isaac Newton assumed, otherwise the orbits of bodies would be completely unstable. Did you know that General Relativity claims that gravity travels at the speed of light but that GR results are indistinguishable from Newtonian results?

    Relativists figured out a cheesy and devious way around the problem by claiming that massive bodies somehow (nobody knows how) transmit their velocities to other bodies. This way, a receiving body can calculate (by some unknown magic) the correct position of the sending bodies and act as if gravity was instantaneous.

    Of course, none of it can be tested empirically. The level of utter pseudoscience surrounding gravitational physics, relativity and Einstein is mind boggling.

  3. 3
    AaronS1978 says:

    Bicep2 results of gravity waves where undone 6 months later by star dust, everyone was certain they where correct. So it wouldn’t surprise me if this ends up being the case. LIGO I wouldnt say it is a scientific scam though. I felt their results where pretty solid. This is the search for gravity waves though.

  4. 4
    FourFaces says:

    AaronS1978 @3,

    One of the most annoying problems with LIGO is that it is not an experiment to falsify a theory (as good science dictates) but one to corroborate it, which is pseudoscience.

  5. 5
    AaronS1978 says:

    I get where you’re coming from. I strongly believe it should be a little bit of both though because if you only seek to disapprove something or to falsify you start getting into sciences of things like free will, were most experiments seek to disprove it or falsify it. Which is equally annoying, and technically the same thing you are annoyed at, which is the scientist simply seek to prove they are right.

    But I do see where you’re coming

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    FourFaces says:

    In my opinion, a scientist proves a theory by showing that it cannot be falsified. To do this, he or she must provide a method for falsification. Relativists have never provided a method to falsify their prediction of gravitational waves. LIGO is thus pure pseudoscience and a scam.

    Some people should go to jail including some of those who sit on the Nobel Prize committee.

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