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Paper at Nature Reviews Genetics demands some respect for junk DNA

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Abstract: Pseudogenes are defined as regions of the genome that contain defective copies of genes. They exist across almost all forms of life, and in mammalian genomes are annotated in similar numbers to recognized protein-coding genes. Although often presumed to lack function, growing numbers of pseudogenes are being found to play important biological roles. In consideration of their evolutionary origins and inherent limitations in genome annotation practices, we posit that pseudogenes have been classified on a scientifically unsubstantiated basis. We reflect that a broad misunderstanding of pseudogenes, perpetuated in part by the pejorative inference of the ‘pseudogene’ label, has led to their frequent dismissal from functional assessment and exclusion from genomic analyses. With the advent of technologies that simplify the study of pseudogenes, we propose that an objective reassessment of these genomic elements will reveal valuable insights into genome function and evolution. – Cheetham, S.W., Faulkner, G.J. & Dinger, M.E. Overcoming challenges and dogmas to understand the functions of pseudogenes. Nat Rev Genet (2019) doi:10.1038/s41576-019-0196-1 Published: 17 December 2019

The friend who sent us the abstract also quotes from the paywalled paper:

In addition to the untested hypothesis that evolution has left us with a dichotomy between genes and pseudogenes, the term pseudogene itself asserts a paradigm of non-functionality through its taxonomic construction. Pseudogenes are defined as defective and not genes. This point is highlighted because impartial language in science is known to inherently restrict the neutral investigation between conflicting paradigms[119]. In the case of pseudogenes, the term itself is constructed to support the dominant paradigm and therefore limit, consciously or unconsciously, scientific objectivity in their investigation.

It was in fact Darwinism that prevented the role of pseudo genes from being properly recognized.

As another friend puts the matter, “This is an important paper for documenting that not only is pseudogene function is far more prevalent than we often recognize but also that evolutionary “dogma” has prevented investigation into the function of pseudogenes. The paper’s message is that pseudogenes probably have many more functions than we think and only the false view that they are “junk” prevents us from finding them.”

Remember how important pseudogenes (evolution’s huge library of useless junk) once were?

By now, Darwin could paper his study with goodbye notes.

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Only insipid trolls and liberals think it is enough to spew accusations. Has anyone else noticed that is all Sven can muster and bluster? What are the odds that Sven will never produce any evidence to support its attack on upright biped? There isn't a bookie that would touch that one. Unless they could find someone dumb enough to think Sven will actually ante up.ET
December 22, 2019
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No, it says that you are perfectly willing to be deceptive, equivocating, and potentially worse in order to push your own personal agenda.Sven Mil
December 22, 2019
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Here's another interesting paper on chromatin regulation: Distinct functions and temporal regulation of methylated histone H3 during early embryogenesis
During the first hours of embryogenesis, formation of higher-order heterochromatin coincides with the loss of developmental potential. Here, we examine the relationship between these two events, and we probe the processes that contribute to the timing of their onset. Mutations that disrupt histone H3 lysine 9 (H3K9) methyltransferases reveal that the methyltransferase MET-2 helps terminate developmental plasticity, through mono- and di-methylation of H3K9 (me1/me2), and promotes heterochromatin formation, through H3K9me3. Although loss of H3K9me3 perturbs formation of higher-order heterochromatin, embryos are still able to terminate plasticity, indicating that the two processes can be uncoupled. Methylated H3K9 appears gradually in developing C. elegans embryos and depends on nuclear localization of MET-2. We find that the timing of H3K9me2 and nuclear MET-2 is sensitive to rapid cell cycles, but not to zygotic genome activation or cell counting. These data reveal distinct roles for different H3K9 methylation states in the generation of heterochromatin and loss of developmental plasticity by MET-2, and identify the cell cycle as a crucial parameter of MET-2 regulation.
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December 22, 2019
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>>>>>> Sven: "UB, most recently, in order to prove a point, you off-handedly reffered to von Neumann as a both a “non-biologist” and “a computer scientist,” when in fact (as I’m sure you know) he was one of the most intelligent human beings to ever walk the planet. Now what does that say about you?" Apparently it says that I am someone who actually knows that Von Neumann was not a biologist, but was a computer scientist. (!) Does this mean you won't be defending the claims you make here? Will you not be telling us what von Neumann got wrong?Upright BiPed
December 22, 2019
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It be really awesome if you stopped attacking his character and actually answer his questionAaronS1978
December 22, 2019
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UB, most recently, in order to prove a point, you off-handedly reffered to von Neumann as a both a "non-biologist" and "a computer scientist," when in fact (as I'm sure you know) he was one of the most intelligent human beings to ever walk the planet. Now what does that say about you? Well despite the apparent triviality, I believe that given your history here at UD, it indicates that you will say anything in an attempt to push your agenda forward and quite frankly you have lost all respect of someone familiar with the history of science.Sven Mil
December 22, 2019
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Lol. This comment section is a perfect example of people “having no knowledge of biology but trying to talk about the details of, and explain, biology.”
Sven, the last time you dipped your toe in these waters, you took particular issue with Michael Behe’s concept of irreducible complexity. I responded to your comments, thinking that a cat like you would surely jump at the opportunity to make your case. But you didn’t. This was my response:
Sven, living organisms must be specified among alternatives in order to exist (and be heritable). You, nor anyone else, has even a conceptual way to accomplish that without fully confirming Michael Behe’s point about irreducible complexity. In other words, you cannot connect your imagination to extant biology without going through Mike Behe’s front yard …
You are more than welcome to support your attack on IC. By all means, tell us how you can specify something among alternatives (as every cell on earth does - the defining characteristic of life) without irreducible complexity. If you don’t mind, be sure to point out Von Neumann’s mistakes. To save some time, you might want to start out with the requirement of a transcribable memory. The living cell physically establishes its memory through the use of discontinuous association (that's what makes it work) and it uses spatial orientation to enable multiple referents. All of this has to be simultaneously coordinated in the constraints of the system, allowing it to persist over time. But please don’t let me steal your thunder, you go ahead.Upright BiPed
December 21, 2019
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Ed George admitted to being William Spearshake. Acartia bogart admitted to being William Spearshake. Acartia is on record saying it is not interested in any fair, honest and open discussion. Those are the facts.ET
December 21, 2019
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AaronS1978
Speaking of which what is the deal with Acartia Eddie?
Beats me. ET obviously has some obsession with this Acartia person. I have repeatedly told him that I am not this person. To no effect. Which is why I don’t respond to him any more. He obviously has some serious psychological issues. I prefer not to be his therapist.Ed George
December 21, 2019
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AaronS:
Speaking of which what is the deal with Acartia Eddie?
Ed George admitted to being William Spearshake. Acartia bogart admitted to being William Spearshake. Acartia is on record saying it is not interested in any fair, honest and open discussion.ET
December 21, 2019
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Acartia Eddie:
I think you will agree that if there is anyone here who deserves to be treated this way it is ET.
Sven is treating me like it is a clueless infant. I guess that shows me...ET
December 21, 2019
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Ed George Oh I know, now I don’t agree with any trolly behavior no matter the side, that’s why I said let it be and don’t troll back. Speaking of which what is the deal with Acartia Eddie? This is obviously a troll why is it necessary to call Ed George this? But in this case, I saw exactly what Sven Mil was doing, and as Admiral Akbar would say “IT’S A TRAP!!”AaronS1978
December 21, 2019
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AaronS1978@50, although I don’t condone Sev’s behaviour, I think you will agree that if there is anyone here who deserves to be treated this way it is ET.Ed George
December 21, 2019
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Sven
it is too painful to watch you try to talk about biology
You've posted several times on this thread and contributed very little. The challenge is to explain the evolutionary development of the process in question.
Also you do know that bacteria compact their genome by other means right?
You don't seem to be aware of the problem. The spooling mechanism of compacting is what you cannot explain.Silver Asiatic
December 21, 2019
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Ed George
someone with little intellect might accuse you of being Acartia, or Spearshake
Anyone in particular here who has "little intellect" you're referring to here? I think you were concerned about insults being handed out.Silver Asiatic
December 21, 2019
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OK Aaron, I fed the troll for breakfast. My bad.ET
December 21, 2019
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That’s what you came up with? Lol this is what you guys call “science?”
What is your counter argument?bill cole
December 21, 2019
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ET seriously don’t engage, he is a troll, he will add NOTHING, you will learn nothing, he will supply no knowledge or dialogue of worth, he will simply say you and everyone else is stupid and clueless and he KNOWS better, the only thing he has supplied that has ANY knowledge of worth was genome size, which a simple google search supplies this superior knowledge. He ends EVERY statement with belittlements, which serve to goad you, and forge a false narrative that he is smart, he states everyone has a pattern of being clueless on UD, this only serves to write the narrative that everyone here is stupid, illegitimating anyone else without knowing if they where smarter or not He is a troll, honestly don’t waste your time, you are the only one putting an argument up of your position, he just says you and your friends are dumb I win. He will provide NOTHING ELSE. Let it be and don’t troll backAaronS1978
December 21, 2019
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Translation: Sven Mil is a scientifically illiterate coward who couldn't defend anything if its life depended on it. And that is a theme here @ UD- evos and the anti-ID mob think their false accusations and asinine innuendos are meaningful discourse. Thank you for enforcing that.ET
December 21, 2019
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ET, it is too painful to watch you try to talk about biology. I can't do it anymore. You are so clueless and you appear to not even know it. Or maybe you just don't want to know. Maybe living in a world of your own made-up facts is how you like it. Seems to be the theme here at UD. Take care now.Sven Mil
December 21, 2019
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ET, it is too painful to watch you try to talk about biology. I can't do it anymore. You are so clueless and you appear to not even know it. Or maybe you just don't want to know. Maybe living in a world of your own made-up facts is how you like it. Seems to be the theme here at UD. Take care now.Sven Mil
December 21, 2019
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Earth to Acartia Eddie- No one will ever confuse you with facts. It doesn't matter the time of year.ET
December 21, 2019
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Wow. Sven, that bacteria compact their genomes in other ways has absolutely no bearing on the histone octamer spools. You don't have a mechanism capable of accounting for those bacteria nor how blind and mindless processes produced the method they use to compact their genomes. That said, yes our longest chromosome is 250 million. But given the hypothesis that junk DNA is the cause for the size we would expect that chromosome to contain more than 90% junk. The 90% figure pertains to the entire genome. It is not that each chromosome would be 90% smaller. And even then you still don't have a mechanism that can account for the histone octamer spools. And you still cannot account for the existence of chromosomes. Also- But then again, unguided/ blind watchmaker evolution cannot account for the existence of chromosomes. That happens to be a fact. So your charge of Everything you have said is either made-up, flat-out wrong, or both. is just a cowardly false accusation. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing eukaryotes. That is another fact that you will ignoreET
December 21, 2019
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Sven, don’t confuse ET with facts. At least not this close to Christmas.Ed George
December 21, 2019
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Everything you have said is either made-up, flat-out wrong, or both. Assuming you're referring to the human genome, because you aren't aware of the vast diversity of eukaryotic genome sizes, you are flat out wrong. The largest human chromosome is ~250 million bases, 10% of which is still much larger than the largest bacterial genome (~13million bases). Also you do know that bacteria compact their genome by other means right? Not to mention that eukaryotes use other methods to compact their genome, which are similar or identical to that of bacteria. (Google polyamines) You and your friends here are absolutely clueless.Sven Mil
December 21, 2019
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Without the added 90% junk they wouldn’t be required. That would be because the longest chromosome would be smaller than the largest bacterial genome, for which there aren't any histone octamer spools required. But then again, unguided/ blind watchmaker evolution cannot account for the existence of chromosomes. So Sven is a failure before it even gets started. :razz:ET
December 21, 2019
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The existence of histone octamers prove that the length of DNA was expected. It is evidence that said length was intelligently designed. That is because the alternative, that those octamers just happened and just happened to be able to spool that length of DNA an organize it so that it is useful, is beyond absurd. And it is untestable claptrap. Now that the evidence points to an intelligent design origin for said octamers, the evidence that most of the DNA is junk goes out the window. There is obviously a design reason why the DNA is that long. And to ID that reason is for the storage of immaterial information. Sven is too cowardly to deal with that.ET
December 21, 2019
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Yes, Sven was plucked from someone's derrière. Sven is proud to display its ignorance and belligerence. Sven is a prime example of “People with no knowledge of biology, trying to talk about and explain biology”. Nice own goal, loserET
December 21, 2019
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Plucked it from your derrière. Got it. At least now we know not to believe a word you say when it comes to anything science. Like I said, UD's motto: "People with no knowledge of biology, trying to talk about and explain biology"Sven Mil
December 21, 2019
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No Sven, let's start with your quote-mining cowardice and obvious scientific illiteracy. And let's continue with the fact that there isn't any viable scientific alternative to ID.ET
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