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Here, kitty kitty, kitty …

The summary for a recent article in Science reads,

The origin of life remains a daunting mystery in part because rather than knowing too little, we increasingly know about too many possible mechanisms that might have led to the self-sustaining replication of nucleic acids and the cellularization of genetic material that is the basis of life on Earth. (paywall)

Yes, um, the mice had that problem when they were meeting about belling the cat. A million ways to bell a cat but not one that doesn’t include dealing directly with the cat.

The “cat” in this case is doubtless that all the acceptable ways make assumptions that don’t work out. One way that worked would have been enough.

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BTW: LP, when you mock ID supporters who use some degree of concealment, understand what happened to the undersigned who requests only respect for his in-box. Hunts all over the Internet, attempts to expose and threaten wife and minor children, threats to utterly uninvolved relatives, slander attacks, behaviour that looks like the perps need to go see a good shrink for all sorts of sociopathic and anger management problems (depending on the case). Multiply by the real deal: lies, false accusations of thievery, conspiracies to distort career achievements to excuse career busting, and worse. In that context LP's behaviour above has to be seen as enabling of agit-prop bully-boy tactics, driven by patent bigotry visible from tone and substance . . . and don't get me started on giving details behind this last. That is what we are dealing with. I hope LP or his creators have enough conscience left to be deeply ashamed. KFkairosfocus
January 24, 2014
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F/N: While a full demonstration of a major case cannot be put in 6,000 words, that is the upper length of a reasonable feature article and no limits on external links is given. So, a reasonable executive summary case can be given [6,000 words being equivalent to a 45 minute lecture], and links can be given elsewhere. I rest assured, that if the evolutionary materialism advocates -- and the abbreviation is obvious -- were in possession of the goods they advertise, such would be present in every corner of the Internet and would be trumpeted from the housetops. In short, the attempt to ridicule the challenge is a disguised dodge. LP continues to show that "he" is not serious. Strike two. KFkairosfocus
January 24, 2014
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LP: As was shown in 26 above based on a specific case -- where you were trying to accuse me of poisoning the well but only succeeded in spewing a string of familiar false and long since exposed accusations, insinuations and name-calling invidious associations -- I have evaluated your actual behaviour. So, you are also demonstrably willfully deceitful in your onward string of accusations, drumming on with a continued loaded misrepresentation. No surprise, on track record of your ilk. If you hope to make any serious contribution at UD, you will be well advised to correct your behaviour in light of the UD weak argument correctives. I will not entertain you in an onward crocodile death roll where you will continue the Alinsky tactic of targetting and personalising; FYI, you now stand on strike one. If instead of worn out agit-prop tactics, you are willing to take up the pro-darwinism essay challenge seriously, you have in hand all the information you need. KF PS: And, the empirical evidence of say an RNA world functioning organism is: ___________ , discovered in _________ location, by: _________ , and published this in: ___________ . The evidence that such or the like could and did emerge in some reasonable pre biotic environment is _____ (with evidence of a prebiotic soup if implied being ______). The onward evidence that such could and did evolve into DNA-RNA-enzyme-ribosome based organisms with coded genetic information is: ____________ , with the code and algorithms, databases for proteins being accounted for on _________ . And that this path to the modern cell actually occured we can be assured on the evidence that _________ . The prizes and recognition for these discoveries are: ________ . PPS: Onlookers, I am of course using the FITB above to underscore what sort of evidence would be required to substantiate claims regarding the Darwinist root of the tree of life. I am quite aware that to fill in such on genuine substance would be quite a challenge. Evo mat ideologues and advocates actually usually hold a "something like this must have happened" view, and project to those who question their extraordinary claims, that to challenge the evo mat view is anti science. That is they equate science to their ideology.kairosfocus
January 24, 2014
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kairosfocus, you can pre-judge me based on behaviours of others that are completely unrelated to me. That's your prerogative to stereotype people. It just means you lost your argument and I don't change my views because you want me to, I change based on evidence and you certainly haven't provided anything remotely acceptable. At least bornagain77 tries though all their posts are flawed. Your groundless innuendo is as I stated poisoning the well. It's a fallacy. Move on. The topic is abiogenesis. There are a number of approaches from science but there is no approach from ID. What is the definitive ID view of the origin of the first cell and nucleic acid ? There is no position other than it wasn't spontaneous. OK if it wasn't spontaneous then what was it and why can't it be spontaneous ? Why can't the designer fine-tune the fundamental constants of the universe at T=0 to ensure that life spontaneously forms at T+9 billion years ? And if that was done then why can't the constants ensure the spontaneously formation of RNA and DNA ? About now bornagain77 will be readying a new copy+pasta that will have highly improbable events but all those tired old calculations show is how it was not done, not how it was done. Do the people saying how it was not done advance any view on how it was done ? Generally not. Key to the start is information. Random streams have information but when it comes to ID at best we get pages of poor maths that does its best to add special sauce to bits to turn them into ID-flavour bits to make them different from random bits. This lack of understanding of information is a systemic problem with ID people. The pump of information from random bits plus natural selection (i.e. the environment or nature) gives us the complex specified information after the fact. This is how genetic algorithms work and even how artificial selection works. The design is in the natural selector and that may be spontaneously formed, or created but in both cases the result is a biased random walk. It is not possible to tell if a node in a search was visited by a biased random walk or by some other algorithm (AKA a designer). From an ID point of view we never will get to see how it was done. Why ? Because ID theorists cannot know. Bits carry no flavour and claims that a suitably large search space is unlikely to be traversed in the time allowed, and thus it must be design, isn't a reasonable argument as no ID theorists can ever know if a biased random walk could or could not search the space unless they try (and fail) a biased random walk. Do they try ? No. And as for asking for some 6,000 word essay on "evo mat" (whatever that is !) is naive. It is assuming that a proof can fit into 6,000 words. The proof for Fermat's last theorem is over 100 pages long and took 200 years. The size of the question is not proportional to the answer and the very fact that a number of words is demanded suggests an ignorance of what is needed. Do we have an ID proof for design ?. No. We have claims of design but no proof. Proofs are hard and may take hundreds of years to develop. The millennium problems show this issue. Do we have evidence as to what ID theorists say the first cell was ? No. Typical ID rhetoric is to cite modern cell mechanisms. Do ID theorists say when the first cell occurred ? No - current science posits an approximate timeframe but on Uncommon Descent that timeframe is attacked but no alternative timeframe is offered. Was the first cell a modern cell ? Unlikely.Lincoln Phipps
January 24, 2014
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"Eating bacon pisses your god off."
No, Lincoln, it is not the actual eating of the bacon, but the rebellion against His commands, in this case, that makes Him angry. I say that because later in the Bible, the special dietary laws that God gave to the Israelites were revoked. It may have been wrong for Jews to eat pork, but it was not wrong for non-Israelites to do so. This was one of the many laws that God gave specifically to the Jews to help set them apart from the surrounding nations as His people. Circumcision was another such law. There were many other laws though that certainly applied to all people. For instance, adultery is a moral issue that applies to all people everywhere regardless whether one is a Jew or not. God is holy and He hates wickedness(& the wicked as well) Sin is defied as lawlessness in the Bible - in reference to His laws, although lawlessness in society also qualifies as sin. It is also wrong NOT to do something you know you should do - a sin of omission as opposed to a sin of commission. Sin can be in word, deed, thought, or motive.
"I imagine that you’ve probably not done everything perfect since birth"
True. We all have messed up, some more than others, but that is not really relevant. The point is that we are all sinners. We have all rebelled against Him and gone our own way, ignoring Him. The penalty for sin is death, both physical and spiritual according to the Bible so we all fall short of His standards which means no one is fit to go to heaven. We have all pissed Him off and He is right to be angry at your sin and mine, just as we are angered by evil in society. The amazing thing though is that He sent Jesus to take the full brunt of God's anger against our sin so that He can forgive us. But if we reject this great act of love and mercy and somehow think that we are good enough on our own to get to heaven, then we remain under His righteous wrath. To reject Jesus is to chose not to go to heaven, because only Jesus, with His perfect sacrifice on the cross, can pay the penalty for your sin. BA would be the first to admit that he is not perfect and that he too is a sinner like you. Some of us piss off God more than others because of active rebellion and/or a conscious decision to oppose Christianity, but still we are all under His wrath because of our sin - even the Pope himself - until we repent and trust in Jesus to save and forgive us.tjguy
January 23, 2014
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Mapou: I think LP needs to face himself (of themselves), other than in an evo mat echo chamber. S/he or the composite it's creators need to understand that the ideologues in lab coats have not cornered the market on the truth, and to however dimly, have an opportunity to begin to see the truth. And, failing that LP is an example for all to see of what the evo mat ideologues have become. As for banning, that is a power held by others, and I think their general policy is that someone like LT is such a self-parody that the result is inadvertent self refutation by dint of being oblivious to self referential absurdities and empty-headed parotting of long since exposed talking points. And, who knows, maybe LP will actually have the courage to take the pro darwinism challenge seriously. KFkairosfocus
January 23, 2014
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kairosfocus, I don't understand why you're playing cat and mouse with Phipps. UD is not supported by government money and free speech is not a right here. Nobody needs Phipps' repentance. Just ban the self-important troll. That's what I would do.Mapou
January 23, 2014
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Onlookers, every thread at UD and every attack comment here and elsewhere that targets UD should be understood in light of the dog that didn't bark when it counted, for a year and more now. KFkairosfocus
January 23, 2014
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PPS: If you are serious, after cooling down, the public invitation to take a free kick at goal of Sept 23 2012 is still open. Cf. the challenge here, and the after a full year composite remarks, here. (This is a case of the dog that didn't bark.) KFkairosfocus
January 23, 2014
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PS: And if you wanted a case in point, you can examine the anti-Christian bigotry and NCSE talking point laced, rhetorical pile-on:
the creationist/ID dogma in that the public face of ID is anti-science criticism, ad hom, and the multi-faced confused evidence-free claims about a designer which vary from God-did-it through to I’m-not-saying with a side-order of Jesus-loves-you
. . . which you just used. (Ironically, this was projected by you as a correction of a caution I made above. All you succeeded in doing was underscoring my point by resorting to an inept turnabout accusation. The good news in this is that you are not likely to be a hard core, just a run of the mill case of the indoctrinated. You may still be composite, but if so you are more like some over-programmed teens or Freshmen in a basement than something cooked up seriously at ATBC etc. You can start on the composite issue with a very unlikely name.) You have plainly been so indoctrinated and polarised that you don't realise just how falsely what you just wrote rings. I suggest that you would be well advised to begin de-programming and turning the hype voltage down with the UD WACs as just linked. KFkairosfocus
January 23, 2014
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LP: Here at UD we have seen a LOT of sock-puppets, trolls, cyberstalking bullies and the like over the years, with Patrick May's improperly appropriated Mathgrrl persona -- there is a real article, a Calculus professor -- being the most notorious of the sock puppets. Your pattern of behaviour fits like a glove. Either change your behaviour to reasonable, serious interaction [start by taking on board the UD weak argument correctives and dropping the zero concession you all are ignorant, stupid, insane or wicked pose . . . ], or you will be taken under the rule: if it walks and quacks like a duck . . . KFkairosfocus
January 23, 2014
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Lincoln, I am not a Christian. I don't believe in the Theory of Evolution. Thus, disbelief in evolution spreads across the board. Of course, I guess one reason why I don't believe in the Theory of Evolution is because no one can even say what it is. Its the biological theory of anything (but we know its not planned, except when it is).phoodoo
January 23, 2014
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Lincoln, If you say that ID is anti-science, you are a troll. And there isn't any support for unguided evolution. YOU can't even produce testable hypotheses for that premise. And it is obvious that you don't know what evidence is.Joe
January 23, 2014
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I see mapou, jerry and kairosfocus are poisoning the well again. KS makes the usual groundless claims about trolls and sock-puppets which KS has tried before but hasn't been able to substantiate one iota. With a few exceptions the pro-ID/pro-creationists hide behind anonymous nicknames. But that's just them being consistent with the creationist/ID dogma in that the public face of ID is anti-science criticism, ad hom, and the multi-faced confused evidence-free claims about a designer which vary from God-did-it through to I'm-not-saying with a side-order of Jesus-loves-you. What the anti-Evolutionists can't understand is that support for Evolution is across the board from atheist to Christians. bornagain77 claims "In my book, it is very, very, unwise to do your best to piss God off in this life, as Dawkins and other ‘new agnostic’ atheists seem bent on doing, when you have no proof that your preferred belief is true!" What bornagain77 is saying is that we should accept '77 claims so we don't "piss God off". What an intellectually vacuous reason. Eating bacon pisses your god off '77 so I imagine that you've probably not done everything perfect since birth to make it happy. Addressing the point though to start with beliefs from science are not about "truth" but what is more probable. If I was after truths I would be a lot more focused on mathematics but I'm more interested in information theory and the world around us. Does '77 honestly think that god is pissed off because I criticise '77 and the other anonymous posters on Uncommon Descent ? Seriously give your god more credit than that !. Bornagain77 posts pages after page of copy+paste and the intent of that is to swamp the reader and waste their time. Every post is a mixture of poor science, refuted claims, fallacy or a touch of theology.Lincoln Phipps
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OT: Different sponge species (of the same genus) have highly specific, stable microbiomes - January 21, 2014 Excerpt: The sea sponge is about as simple as an animal can get, but its associated bacterial community—its microbiome —is known to approach the complexity of the diverse microbiome in the human gut. Now, scientists,, have shown that different species of Hexadella sponges each have a highly specific and stable microbiome, not only in terms of the most abundant members of the associated microbial community, but the rare members as well. "When we looked at what microbial community occurred in a species of sponge, we always found the same community, no matter where geographically and at which depth the sponge [lived]," http://phys.org/news/2014-01-sponge-species-highly-specific-stable.html Hexadella (Genus) http://zipcodezoo.com/Key/Animalia/Hexadella_Genus.aspbornagain77
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Atheists logic 101 "If I can only create life here in the lab (or in my computer), it will prove that no intelligence was necessary to create life in the beginning" http://legacy-cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/ee/v2/life-by-chance.jpgbornagain77
January 21, 2014
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Interesting article by National Catholic Register writer, Paul Shea, on Supernaturalism and Naturalism, contrasting the reactions of two atheists to witnessing miracles at Lourdes: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/mark-shea/private-revelation-two-stories-and-two-basic-typesAxel
January 21, 2014
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The Evolutionist has a simple solution to the OoL problem. It’s exactly like Steve Martin’s advice on How to Become a Millionaire and Never Pay Taxes! “First, take a living cell…”
Shouldn't have been drinking as I read that. Nose burns. Made me "lol". :DTSErik
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The Evolutionist has a simple solution to the OoL problem. It's exactly like Steve Martin's advice on How to Become a Millionaire and Never Pay Taxes! "First, take a living cell..."drc466
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But, I thought evolutionists weren't concerned about the origin of life. That's somebody else's problem.OldArmy94
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The quote Joe provides is very telling. As well as the energy issue raised by BA77. Then there is the real problem. How do we get information? For anyone who thinks materialistic abiogenesis is possible, I have offered, and offer again the following challenge: ----- I’m willing to grant you all the amino acids you want. I’ll even give them all to you in a non-racemic mixture. You want them all left-handed? No problem. I’ll also grant you the exact relative mixture of the specific amino acids you want (what percentage do you want of glycine, alanine, arganine, etc.?). I’ll further give you just the right concentration to encourage optimum reaction. I’m also willing to give you the most benign and hospitable environment you can possibly imagine for your fledgling structures to form (take your pick of the popular ideas: volcanic vents, hydrothermal pools, mud globules, tide pools, deep sea hydrothermal vents, cometary clouds in space . . . whichever environment you want). I’ll even throw in whatever type of energy source you want in true Goldilocks fashion: just the right amount to facilitate the chemical reactions; not too much to destroy the nascent formations. I’ll further spot you that all these critical conditions occur in the same location spatially. And at the same time temporally. Shoot, as a massive bonus I’ll even step in to prevent contaminating cross reactions. I’ll also miraculously make your fledgling chemical structures immune from their natural rate of breakdown so you can keep them around as long as you want. Every single one of the foregoing items represents a huge challenge and a significant open question to the formation of life, but I’m willing to grant them all. Now, with all these concessions, what do you think the next step is? Go ahead, what is your theory about how life forms?Eric Anderson
January 21, 2014
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Ouch, typos.kairosfocus
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M: A bit5 strong on languag4, but you are probably rigt that we are dealing with at least one troll and probaly a composite sock-puppet. Howbeit, this reveals the inr4ellectual bankruptcy of what we are addressing, especially when it is well past a year where a simple knockout invitation has been put on the table. Put up a 6,000 word essay on the evidential basis for the evo mat view, and I will personally host it here at UD. If you want you can post it at TSZ etc. Since Sept 23, 2012, no serious take-up, I had to put up a composite as much as we can squeeze out response. It is time that we all took due note of what is really going on. KFkairosfocus
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Phipps is a freaking troll, in my opinion. Ignore the jackass.
I have frequently said the most interesting thing about the evolution debate is not the actual evidence but the behavior of the individuals involved. Why do they behave as they do? Mr. Phipps is a stereotype anti-ID commenter whose comments usually include ad hominems, irrelevancies, trivialities and some times absurdities. Rarely is there an interest in actual debate or understanding. Nothing new but commenters here encourage this continued behavior. Nearly all Mr. Phipps comments are meant to bait. And like good little fish many take the bait.
Origin of Life Faces Four Paradoxes
While not a paradox, I think most of us will agree the real problem is the building of information. Self replication does not solve that.jerry
January 21, 2014
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Phipps is a freaking troll, in my opinion. Ignore the jackass.Mapou
January 21, 2014
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Lincoln Phipps, since even Dawkins himself is not 100% sure that God does not exist: Ben Stein interviews Richard Dawkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trUUv_ZDoMo or a 'agnostic atheist' as you say, then why in Blue Blazes is he a 'militant atheist' who acts like he is 100% sure he will never have to face God and who does his best to ridicule Christians and spread disbelief? ,,, If he were truly honest in his agnosticism should he not be more circumspect?? Perhaps a little more circumspect, and humble, like to former leading atheist in the world was?
"I now believe that the universe was brought into existence by an infinite intelligence. I believe that the universe's intricate laws manifest what scientists have called the Mind of God. I believe that life and reproduction originate in a divine Source. Why do I believe this, given that I expounded and defended atheism for more than a half century? The short answer is this: this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from modern science." Anthony Flew - world's leading intellectual atheist for most of his adult life until a few years shortly before his death The Case for a Creator - Lee Strobel (Nov. 25, 2012) - video http://www.saddleback.com/mc/m/ee32d/
In my book, it is very, very, unwise to do your best to piss God off in this life, as Dawkins and other 'new agnostic' atheists seem bent on doing, when you have no proof that your preferred belief is true! The best data we have [concerning the Big Bang] are exactly what I would have predicted, had I nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the bible as a whole. Dr. Arno Penzias, Nobel Laureate in Physics - co-discoverer of the Cosmic Background Radiation - as stated to the New York Times on March 12, 1978 “Certainly there was something that set it all off,,, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis” Robert Wilson – Nobel laureate – co-discover Cosmic Background Radiation “There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the big bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.” George Smoot – Nobel laureate in 2006 for his work on COBE "Now we see how the astronomical evidence supports the biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy." Robert Jastrow – Founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute – Pg.15 ‘God and the Astronomers’bornagain77
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Lincoln Phipps- You are confused as your position has nothing, not even testable hypotheses.Joe
January 21, 2014
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Abiogenesis is the end of days for the God of Gaps that is ID. At least bornagain77 is reasonably honest here by being open as to what it is but many other ID supporters hide their foundation mythology with weasel wording. The odd part though is how borngain77 assumes others deny the existence of God. To '77 an "atheist" denies god whereas most atheists are agnostic atheists. One day '77 will learn the difference.Lincoln Phipps
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Moreover, as if that was not 'spooky' enough, the nature of how the image formed on the shroud, belongs to the quantum world, not to the classical world:
"It is not a continuum or spherical-front radiation that made the image, as visible or UV light. It is not the X-ray radiation that obeys the one over R squared law that we are so accustomed to in medicine. It is more unique. It is suggested that the image was formed when a high-energy particle struck the fiber and released radiation within the fiber at a speed greater that the local speed of light. Since the fiber acts as a light pipe, this energy moved out through the fiber until it encountered an optical discontinuity, then it slowed to the local speed of light and dispersed. The fact that the pixels don’t fluoresce suggests that the conversion to their now brittle dehydrated state occurred instantly and completely so no partial products remain to be activated by the ultraviolet light. This suggests a quantum event where a finite amount of energy transferred abruptly. The fact that there are images front and back suggests the radiating particles were released along the gravity vector. The radiation pressure may also help explain why the blood was "lifted cleanly" from the body as it transformed to a resurrected state." Kevin Moran - Optical Engineer The absorbed energy in the Shroud body image formation appears as contributed by discrete values - Giovanni Fazio, Giuseppe Mandaglio - 2008 Excerpt: This result means that the optical density distribution,, can not be attributed at the absorbed energy described in the framework of the classical physics model. It is, in fact, necessary to hypothesize a absorption by discrete values of the energy where the 'quantum' is equal to the one necessary to yellow one fibril. http://cab.unime.it/journals/index.php/AAPP/article/view/C1A0802004/271 Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural - December 2011 Excerpt: After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. And in case there was any doubt about the preternatural degree of energy needed to make such distinct marks, the Enea report spells it out: "This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-say-turin-shroud-is-supernatural-6279512.html
If scientists want to find the source for the supernatural light which made the "3D - photographic negative" image on the Shroud of Turin, I suggest they look to the thousands of documented Near-Death Experiences (NDE's) in Judeo-Christian cultures. It is in their testimonies that you will find mention of an indescribably bright 'Light' or 'Being of Light' who is always described as being of a much brighter intensity of light than the people had ever seen before.
Ask the Experts: What Is a Near-Death Experience (NDE)? - article with video Excerpt: "Very often as they're moving through the tunnel, there's a very bright mystical light ... not like a light we're used to in our earthly lives. People call this mystical light, brilliant like a million times a million suns..." - Jeffery Long M.D. - has studied NDE's extensively http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/beyondbelief/experts-death-experience/story?id=14221154#.T_gydvW8jbI "Suddenly, I was enveloped in this brilliant golden light. The light was more brilliant that the light emanating from the sun, many times more powerful and radiant than the sun itself. Yet, I was not blinded by it nor burned by it. Instead, the light was a source of energy that embraced my being." Ned Dougherty's - Fast Lane To Heaven - Quoted from "To Heaven and Back" pg. 71 - Mary C. Neal MD “The Light was brighter than hundreds of suns, but it did not hurt my eyes. I had never seen anything as luminous or as golden as this Light, and I immediately understood it was entirely composed of love, all directed at me. This wonderful, vibrant love was very personal, as you might describe secular love, but also sacred. Though I had never seen God, I recognized this light as the Light of God. But even the word God seemed too small to describe the magnificence of that presence. I was with my Creator, in holy communication with that presence. The Light was directed at me and through me; it surrounded me and pierced me. It existed just for me.” – testimony taken from Kimberly Clark Sharp’s Near Death Experience
All people who have been in the presence of 'The Being of Light', while having a deep NDE, have no doubt whatsoever that the 'The Being of Light' they were in the presence of is none other than 'The Lord God Almighty' of heaven and earth.
In The Presence Of Almighty God - The NDE of Mickey Robinson - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4045544
Verse and Music:
Acts 26:13-15 at midday, O king, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. Revelation 22:5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Evanescence - The Other Side (Lyric Video) http://www.vevo.com/watch/evanescence/the-other-side-lyric-video/USWV41200024?source=instantsearch
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Symphony of Life, Revealed: New Imaging Technique Captures Vibrations of Proteins, Tiny Motions Critical to Human Life - Jan. 16, 2014 Excerpt: To observe the protein vibrations, Markelz' team relied on an interesting characteristic of proteins: The fact that they vibrate at the same frequency as the light they absorb. This is analogous to the way wine glasses tremble and shatter when a singer hits exactly the right note. Markelz explained: Wine glasses vibrate because they are absorbing the energy of sound waves, and the shape of a glass determines what pitches of sound it can absorb. Similarly, proteins with different structures will absorb and vibrate in response to light of different frequencies. So, to study vibrations in lysozyme, Markelz and her colleagues exposed a sample to light of different frequencies and polarizations, and measured the types of light the protein absorbed. This technique, , allowed the team to identify which sections of the protein vibrated under normal biological conditions. The researchers were also able to see that the vibrations endured over time, challenging existing assumptions. "If you tap on a bell, it rings for some time, and with a sound that is specific to the bell. This is how the proteins behave," Markelz said. "Many scientists have previously thought a protein is more like a wet sponge than a bell: If you tap on a wet sponge, you don't get any sustained sound." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116084838.htm The Real Bioinformatics Revolution - Proteins and Nucleic Acids 'Singing' to One Another? Excerpt: the molecules send out specific frequencies of electromagnetic waves which not only enable them to ‘see' and ‘hear' each other, as both photon and phonon modes exist for electromagnetic waves, but also to influence each other at a distance and become ineluctably drawn to each other if vibrating out of phase (in a complementary way).,,, More than 1 000 proteins from over 30 functional groups have been analysed. Remarkably, the results showed that proteins with the same biological function share a single frequency peak while there is no significant peak in common for proteins with different functions; furthermore the characteristic peak frequency differs for different biological functions. ,,, The same results were obtained when regulatory DNA sequences were analysed. http://www.i-sis.org.uk/TheRealBioinformaticsRevolution.php
In fact photographs have been taken of humans emitting this 'spooky' biological laser light:
Image - This first image shows one of the test subjects in full light. The middle image shows the body giving off weak emissions of visible light in totally dark conditions. The rightmost image of the subject, captured in infrared wavelengths, shows the heat emissions. http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090722-body-glow-1p.grid-6x2.jpg
Moreover, it is also confirmed to be 'quantum light' that is being emitted by humans:
Evidence of quantum nature of life in human photon emission - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=liIDKLZVRdM#t=1351s Photocount distribution of photons emitted from three sites of a human body - 2006 Excerpt: Signals from three representative sites of low, intermediate and high intensities are selected for further analysis. Fluctuations in these signals are measured by the probabilities of detecting different numbers of photons in a bin. The probabilities have non-classical features and are well described by the signal in a quantum squeezed state of photons. Measurements with bins of three sizes yield same values of three parameters of the squeezed state. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16520060 Humans Glow in (Emit) Visible Light - July 2009 Excerpt: Past research has shown that the body emits visible light, 1,000 times less intense than the levels to which our naked eyes are sensitive. In fact, virtually all living creatures emit very weak light, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32090918/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/humans-glow-visible-light/
Supplemental notes:
Are humans really beings of light? Excerpt: "We now know, today, that man is essentially a being of light.",,, "There are about 100,000 chemical reactions happening in every cell each second. The chemical reaction can only happen if the molecule which is reacting is excited by a photon... Once the photon has excited a reaction it returns to the field and is available for more reactions... We are swimming in an ocean of light." http://viewzone2.com/dna.html
As to other observational evidence:
Coast to Coast - Vicki's Near Death Experience (Blind From Birth) part 1 of 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e65KhcCS5-Y Quote from preceding video: 'I was in a body and the only way that I can describe it was a body of energy, or of light. And this body had a form. It had a head. It had arms and it had legs. And it was like it was made out of light. And 'it' was everything that was me. All of my memories, my consciousness, everything.' - Vicky Noratuk
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