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Why materialist neuroscience must necessarily remain a pseudo-discipline

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At MercatorNet today:

all that fMRI ((brain imaging) really does is show which brain areas have high oxygen levels when a person is thinking something. It simply cannot tell us what people are thinking, because many brain centres are active and those that are active may be activated for many reasons. Each brain is unique so data from studies must be averaged. But thoughts are not averaged; they belong to the individual.

Then, when you are done with that you run smack dab into the hard problem of qualia.

Qualia? As Mario Beauregard and I (Denyse O’Leary) wrote in The Spiritual Brain,

There are good reasons for thinking that the evidence for materialism will actually never arrive. For example, there is the problem of qualia. Qualia (singular, quale) are how things appear to us individually—the experiential aspects of our mental lives that can be accessed through introspection. Every person is unique, so complete understanding of another person’s consciousness is not likely possible in principle, as we saw in Chapter Four. Rather, when we communicate, we rely on general agreement on an overlapping range of meaning. For example, historian Amy Butler Greenfield has written a three-hundred-page book about one primary color, A Perfect Red.

As “the color of desire,” red is a quale if ever there was one. Reviewer Diane Ackerman notes:

Anger us, and we see red. An unfaithful woman is branded with a scarlet letter. In red-light districts, people buy carnal pleasures. We like to celebrate red-letter days and roll out the red carpet, while trying to avoid red tape, red herrings and going into the red. Indeed, fashion houses rise and fall on the subtleties of shades of red. Yet, however “red” affects us individually, we agree communally to use the word for a range of meanings and connotations, not merely a range in the color spectrum. (pp. 104–5)

Sometimes, the signals can be completely opposite and we still converge on a common meaning! In the United States, red connotes “conservative” in politics; in Canada, it connotes “liberal.”

Scan that, genius. Your first task will be to sort out the people who are exclusively Canadian in culture from those who are exclusively American in culture, and good luck with it. You picked it up; you own it.

Materialist neuroscience has a hard time with qualia because they are not easily reducible to a simple, nonconscious explanation. In The Astonishing Hypothesis, Francis Crick grumbles:

It is certainly possible that there may be aspects of consciousness, such as qualia, that science will not be able to explain. We have learned to live with such limitations in the past (e.g., limitations of quantum mechanics) and we may have to live with them again.

Crick was a real scientist, honest enough to admit that. Don’t expect quacks, cranks, and hustlers to notice, or want to. They take refuge in pseudo-disciplines, claiming that, as a book review in The Scientist put it,

“‘Brains are hot,’ Sally Satel and Scott O. Lilienfeld acknowledge in Brainwashed, their ‘exposé of mindless neuroscience’ (mostly practiced not by neuroscientists, they stress, but by ‘neuropundits,’ among others). The ‘mediagenic’ technology of fMRI imaging has made the brain, aglow with metabolic hotspots, into a rainbow emblem of the faith that science will soon empower us to explain, control, expose, exploit, or excuse every wayward human behavior from buying to lying, from craving to crime.”

This is not so much an unsolved problem as an unsolvable one, at least in the terms in which the materialist wants it solved.

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The old joke
“Of all the things I’ve lost I think I miss my mind the most”
,,Should literally be the materialist’s mantra. Nobody in their ‘right mind’ lives as though they have no mind. In fact they’d be psychopaths:
The Heretic – Who is Thomas Nagel and why are so many of his fellow academics condemning him? – March 25, 2013 Excerpt:,,,Fortunately, materialism is never translated into life as it’s lived. As colleagues and friends, husbands and mothers, wives and fathers, sons and daughters, materialists never put their money where their mouth is. Nobody thinks his daughter is just molecules in motion and nothing but; nobody thinks the Holocaust was evil, but only in a relative, provisional sense. A materialist who lived his life according to his professed convictions—understanding himself to have no moral agency at all, seeing his friends and enemies and family as genetically determined robots—wouldn’t just be a materialist: He’d be a psychopath. http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/heretic_707692.html?page=3
But to get to the brass tax of empirical evidence,, There are solid studies that have shown that mental intention precedes neuronal firing:
In The Wonder Of Being Human: Our Brain and Our Mind, Eccles and Robinson discussed the research of three groups of scientists (Robert Porter and Cobie Brinkman, Nils Lassen and Per Roland, and Hans Kornhuber and Luder Deeke), all of whom produced startling and undeniable evidence that a “mental intention” preceded an actual neuronal firing – thereby establishing that the mind is not the same thing as the brain, but is a separate entity altogether.,, “As I remarked earlier, this may present an “insuperable” difficulty for some scientists of materialists bent, but the fact remains, and is demonstrated by research, that non-material mind acts on material brain.” Sir John Eccles – Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1963 – (as quoted in Cousins, 1985, pp. 61-62,85-86)
But atheists always try to hide within the complexity of the brain to say that mental intention did not precede neuronal firing. Here is the refutation of the latest attempt by materialists to dodge the reality of the mind:
Brain might not stand in the way of free will – August 2012 Excerpt: “Libet argued that our brain has already decided to move well before we have a conscious intention to move,” says Schurger. “We argue that what looks like a pre-conscious decision process may not in fact reflect a decision at all. It only looks that way because of the nature of spontaneous brain activity.” http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22144-brain-might-not-stand-in-the-way-of-free-will.html
And although Theists have (IMHO) as far as evidence of this sort is concerned, by far, the strongest hand empirically and philosophically for the reality of the mind over the atheists’ contention for ‘only a brain’, the atheists could always, because of the complexity being dealt with, play a sort of cat a mouse game in this area.,,, But science progresses and the progress of science could care less about whether atheists, or anybody else, is able to maintain their a priori philosophical beliefs.,, and in that line of progress, Quantum Mechanics has now unambiguously shown that free will is an intrinsic part of reality,,, In the following experiment, the claim that past material states determine future conscious choices (determinism) is falsified by the fact that present conscious choices effect past material states:
Quantum physics mimics spooky action into the past – April 23, 2012 Excerpt: The authors experimentally realized a “Gedankenexperiment” called “delayed-choice entanglement swapping”, formulated by Asher Peres in the year 2000. Two pairs of entangled photons are produced, and one photon from each pair is sent to a party called Victor. Of the two remaining photons, one photon is sent to the party Alice and one is sent to the party Bob. Victor can now choose between two kinds of measurements. If he decides to measure his two photons in a way such that they are forced to be in an entangled state, then also Alice’s and Bob’s photon pair becomes entangled. If Victor chooses to measure his particles individually, Alice’s and Bob’s photon pair ends up in a separable state. Modern quantum optics technology allowed the team to delay Victor’s choice and measurement with respect to the measurements which Alice and Bob perform on their photons. “We found that whether Alice’s and Bob’s photons are entangled and show quantum correlations or are separable and show classical correlations can be decided after they have been measured”, explains Xiao-song Ma, lead author of the study. According to the famous words of Albert Einstein, the effects of quantum entanglement appear as “spooky action at a distance”. The recent experiment has gone one remarkable step further. “Within a naïve classical world view, quantum mechanics can even mimic an influence of future actions on past events”, says Anton Zeilinger. http://phys.org/news/2012-04-quantum-physics-mimics-spooky-action.html
In other words, if my conscious choices really are just merely the result of whatever state the material particles in my brain happen to be in in the past (deterministic) how in blue blazes are my choices instantaneously effecting the state of material particles into the past?,,, The materialist simply has no place to hide anymore, as he did in the mind/brain correlation studies. It is clear simple and direct refutation of the materialists position!,,, Of semi-related notes:
The Hard Problem (Of Consciousness) – video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRG1fA_DQ9s The Mental Universe - Richard Conn Henry - Professor of Physics John Hopkins University Excerpt: The only reality is mind and observations, but observations are not of things. To see the Universe as it really is, we must abandon our tendency to conceptualize observations as things.,,, Physicists shy away from the truth because the truth is so alien to everyday physics. A common way to evade the mental universe is to invoke "decoherence" - the notion that "the physical environment" is sufficient to create reality, independent of the human mind. Yet the idea that any irreversible act of amplification is necessary to collapse the wave function is known to be wrong: in "Renninger-type" experiments, the wave function is collapsed simply by your human mind seeing nothing. The universe is entirely mental,,,, The Universe is immaterial — mental and spiritual. Live, and enjoy. http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/The.mental.universe.pdf The Renninger Negative Result Experiment - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3uzSlh_CV0
etc.. etc.. etc.. Verse and music:
Luke 10:27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” Nickelback – Lullaby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_wfoY56JGc
bornagain77
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keiths, interesting though not nearly as troubling to the mind/brain position as you seem to think. For instance, Hemispherectomies come to mind in which half the brain is removed in epileptic patients. The results in the patients after the operation, while explaining the seemingly enigmatic facets of your observations, contain elements which are inexplicable to your 'brain only' worldview:.
Strange but True: When Half a Brain Is Better than a Whole One - May 2007 Excerpt: Most Hopkins hemispherectomy patients are five to 10 years old. Neurosurgeons have performed the operation on children as young as three months old. Astonishingly, memory and personality develop normally. ,,, Another study found that children that underwent hemispherectomies often improved academically once their seizures stopped. "One was champion bowler of her class, one was chess champion of his state, and others are in college doing very nicely," Freeman says. Of course, the operation has its downside: "You can walk, run—some dance or skip—but you lose use of the hand opposite of the hemisphere that was removed. You have little function in that arm and vision on that side is lost," Freeman says. Remarkably, few other impacts are seen. ,,, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-when-half-brain-better-than-whole Miracle Of Mind-Brain Recovery Following Hemispherectomies - Dr. Ben Carson - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3994585/ Removing Half of Brain Improves Young Epileptics' Lives: Excerpt: "We are awed by the apparent retention of memory and by the retention of the child's personality and sense of humor,'' Dr. Eileen P. G. Vining; In further comment from the neuro-surgeons in the John Hopkins study: "Despite removal of one hemisphere, the intellect of all but one of the children seems either unchanged or improved. Intellect was only affected in the one child who had remained in a coma, vigil-like state, attributable to peri-operative complications." http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/19/science/removing-half-of-brain-improves-young-epileptics-lives.html
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Lizzie,
FWIW, I believe in a material soul :-)
Me too, which is why I'm typically careful to use the phrase "immaterial soul" when talking about the traditional concept. The brain has pretty much all of the qualities you'd want a soul to have, except perhaps for immortality.keiths
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FWIW, I believe in a material soul :) What is more, I believe that the greater empathy we have for each other, which is an almostly uniquely human quality, the more our souls are merged. The ideal meta-soul is one in which there is total empathy between all, and we are united in one universal soul. I sometimes call that God. I mean this perfectly seriously.Elizabeth B Liddle
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To those who believe in an immaterial soul, let me repeat my invitation from yesterday: Hi UDers, I have a new post at TSZ: Split-brain patients and the dire implications for the soul In it, I explain why observations of split-brain patients pose a serious challenge to those who believe “that each of us has an immaterial mind or soul that constitutes our true self, and that the body, including the brain, is merely a vehicle ‘inhabited’ and controlled by the mind or soul.” I know that many of you believe in immaterial souls, so I would be interested in hearing how you can reconcile — and if you can reconcile — your belief in the soul with the fascinating characteristics of split-brain patients. I would of course prefer that you post your comments at TSZ, but here is fine too if you are TSZ-averse.keiths
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O'Leary:
Hmmm. I could have told them something similar without doing any fMRI, just from dealing with such personality types.
Well, it's because that was an a priori hypothesis that the study was done. But it was neuroscience that allowed us to make those hypotheses in the first place - otherwise how would we even know about the limbic system?
I am not discounting the value of fMRI, but so often in these matters it offers us no more than skilled external observation would. The danger is that some will insist on seeing it as a sort of voodoo, giving it more credibility, for example, than the testimony of an experienced, competent, and honest police officer. That’s where the problem starts. – O’Leary for News
I agree, and more to the point, than a skilled psychiatrist. The Ground Truthing has to be done at the level of the actual patient - no point in saying "this person has schizophrenia" on the basis of an fMRI scan for instance, if they are perfectly fine, and even worse to say "this person is a psychopath" if they are patently kindly people who wouldn't hurt a fly. Where the ethical issue gets tricky though is when someone is serving a life-sentence and comes up for parole, and some estimate needs to be be made about the risk they pose. I can see fMRI being used for that (or other neuroimaging techniques). That would still worry me, I think. But for patient benefit, it would be great - to be able to assess, for example, risk of relapse, or self-harm. There, neuroimaging might well prove to be better than clinical estimates.Elizabeth B Liddle
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Hmmm. I could have told them something similar without doing any fMRI, just from dealing with such personality types. I am not discounting the value of fMRI, but so often in these matters it offers us no more than skilled external observation would. The danger is that some will insist on seeing it as a sort of voodoo, giving it more credibility, for example, than the testimony of an experienced, competent, and honest police officer. That's where the problem starts. - O'Leary for NewsNews
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I very much hope not, Barb, and I would be absolutely against it. (btw, the reason I linked to that paper is because the senior author is a near relation :)) I'm hopeful for the future or neuroimaging - I think it has a lot to offer in the field of mental health research, and may eventually be a useful diagnostic or prognostic tool. The most useful thing would be if we could use it to predict the most likely effective treatment - then perhaps we could shed the traditional labels for mental illness, and focus instead on the identifying the most effective way to help people regain mental health.Elizabeth B Liddle
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The problem with fMRI imaging is that it doesn't appear to be strong enough to be used in a court of law as credible evidence. At least not yet. I would be interested to see if it replaces the durable polygraph test to see if a person is lying.Barb
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Yes, indeed :) No, it's not a pseudo-discipline, Denyse. But that does not mean it can answer philosophical questions, even though it can shed light on them.Elizabeth B Liddle
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Here is something I found interesting from the book Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go To Work, by Drs. Paul Babiak and Robert Hare: "The emotional poverty of psychopaths and their inability to fully appreciate the emotional life of others have been the subject of considerable neurobiological research, some of it using brain-imaging technology. In several functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) brain imaging studies, Hare and his associates found that emotional words and unpleasant pictures did not produce in psycopaths the increases in activity of brain (limbic) regions normally associated with the processing of emotional material. Instead, activation occurred in the regions of the brain involved in the understanding and production of language, as if the psychopaths analyzed the material in linguistic terms."Barb
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