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COVID demonstrated — as nothing else could — that the “science” was all over the map and didn’t help people avoid panic:

Science-sponsored panic probably drove up the damage from COVID. Jay Richards, one of the authors of The Price of Panic: How the Tyranny of Experts Turned a Pandemic into a Catastrophe (October 2020), has noted, “In working on the book, we watched social media and platforms such as Google Search manipulate news coverage of the pandemic. It was, honestly, terrifying to watch important stories and studies get buried in real time on Google searches. It was also distressing to watch Twitter and Facebook attach warnings to the advice and viewpoint of scientists who urged calm and caution, while boosting the views of “officials” such as Anthony Fauci and WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom.”

And, just as most of the world was getting the impression that the pandemic — and the panic — had largely run their course, up pops a proposal in 2021 for a “reality czar” to fight disinformation and misinformation, as if all of that were coming from non-government or non-science sources. The proposal was (we are told) put on hold after the fear of just consequences prevailed.

News, “Why many now reject science… do you really want to know?” at Mind Matters News (July 17, 2022)

Takehome: As the panic receded, the government started setting up a disinformation board to target NON-government sources of panic, thus deepening loss of trust.


You may also wish to read: Did social media panic drive up the damage from COVID-19? Richards: It was, honestly, terrifying to watch important stories and studies get buried in real time on Google searches. Social media did a very good job of panicking the population about COVID-19, instead of relaying facts, says Jay Richards, an author of The Price of Panic.

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Jerry at 214, You call that a threat? I could have wrote: I will bury you under hundreds of links; but I didn't. "... posting for 16 years..."! Wow. No, that wasn't a threat.relatd
July 23, 2022
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Do you think people are stupid?
No, but many generally do not read and have opinions that they cannot justify.
I suggest you stop now or I will post more links. Don’t think I won’t.
I have been posting here for 16 years and never saw a threat like this. Such a threat reminds me of the Monty Python torture threat of the comfy chair. But here the threat is to inundate with links.jerry
July 23, 2022
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Jerry at 209, Do you think people are stupid? Do you? Based on that post, it's obvious you do but I'd like confirmation from you. Lithium-Ion is the current battery formulation. Solid-state batteries are coming by the end of the year. https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2022/06/07/solid-power-begins-pilot-production-of-solid-state-batteries-for-ford-bmw/ Backup power for private homes. https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/energy/best-home-battery/ I suggest you stop now or I will post more links. Don't think I won't.relatd
July 23, 2022
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Oh, and watch this: Fuel tank vs. lightning. https://youtu.be/hyrVqFIDxYAJHolo
July 23, 2022
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Oh, and watch this: Wind turbine vs. lightning https://twitter.com/i/status/1550578309947342850 Spoiler alert: lighting wins. -QQuerius
July 22, 2022
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Jerry @207, Thanks for posting the links. I didn't know that disposing solar panels is so eco-unfriendly. But I do like multi-purpose use of solar panels to augment other sources of energy. For example, solar panel roofing on homes and parking lot covers. Sweden powers at least some bus stops individually with solar/wind generators. Paul Polak noticed that in some parts of the world, people were spending around a third of their income on kerosene for lighting. As a result, he advocated designing products for the economically disadvantaged 90% of the world a smart alternative, the following product is inexpensive, rugged, and effective (we bought a couple of these, which has served us well for years): https://www.amazon.com/d-light-S30-Solar-Rechargeable-Lantern/dp/B00BJELHS0?ref_=ast_sto_dp But I also know how wind turbines require a lot of maintenance and can fail spectacularly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemy4TD4I3A But there's always hope in human ingenuity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNp21zTeCDc -QQuerius
July 22, 2022
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One of the most informative sites on the internet exposes the sustainability nonsense proposed by the climate change advocates.
And the Winner is, Germany. All these places, despite their wealth and seeming sophistication, are embarking on their ambitious plans without ever having conducted any kind of detailed engineering study of how their new proposed energy systems will work or how much they will cost. Sure, a wind/solar electric grid can function with 100% natural gas backup, if you’re willing to have the ratepayers foot the bill for two overlapping and redundant generation systems when you could have had just one. But “net zero” emissions means no more fossil fuel backup. What’s the plan to keep the grid operating 24/7 when the coal and natural gas are gone?
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-6-29-and-the-winner-is-germany Battery storage is a joke as current capacity is enough for just a few minutes.jerry
July 22, 2022
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Stat of renewable energy, 2022. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/06/state-of-renewable-energy-2022/relatd
July 22, 2022
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Solar and wind not so environmentally friendly?
The price of solar panels & wind turbines came down 88% & 68%, respectively, 2010-21, and yet they made electricity more expensive everywhere they were deployed at scale. Why? Because they are weather-dependent, and thus highly unreliable, requiring far more people & machinery
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1550212444332601344
If Solar Panels Are So Clean, Why Do They Produce So Much Toxic Waste?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/23/if-solar-panels-are-so-clean-why-do-they-produce-so-much-toxic-waste/?sh=3b1a0179121cjerry
July 22, 2022
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Andrew at 205, You don't like it? Fine. :)relatd
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“Holding forth” was never a goal. Relatd, Except when you lecture on COVID. ;) Andrewasauber
July 22, 2022
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Jerry at 202, Darn it. I've spent my entire life learning and understanding. "Holding forth" was never a goal. I'm not getting contact information for The Controllers, am I?relatd
July 22, 2022
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Q, molten salt reactors are another good technology. KFkairosfocus
July 22, 2022
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Things get lost easily
Should be
Things get ignored easily
People are here to hold forth, not understand.jerry
July 22, 2022
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Jerry at 200, This is a big place. Things get lost easily. Switzerland? OK. I want contact information for The Controllers.relatd
July 22, 2022
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Who is planning and implementing the future?
That’s obvious. All the strings are being pulled from Switzerland. Have provided several links over last few months but all here go about their merry way.jerry
July 22, 2022
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Querius at 196, "Keep up-to-date on the latest vocabulary and narrative" I have an always growing list of words and terms to never use. The Global Cabal of Relabelers and Repackagers are always busy coming up with these to give people the illusion that they are living in "the future." And the narratives are easy to spot and expose.relatd
July 22, 2022
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Querius at 195, Brilliant. And who told you about the time machine?relatd
July 22, 2022
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Kairosfocus @188, Exactly. All I have to do is extract the gold that’s abundantly present in seawater and I’ll be rich! And we’re so close to a perpetual motion energy source . . . all we need to do is reduce friction to the negative. Haha. It’s my understanding that the reactor “pebbles” tend to fracture, but salt reactor technology looks interesting. I agree with you that current storage cells are short lived and extremely polluting to manufacture. and that nuclear power is pretty much inescapable. -QQuerius
July 22, 2022
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Marfin @185,
No one on the “we are all doomed” side has responded to my post stating the facts not predictions that although temperatures possibly have risen by 1.5 deg C in the last 150 years , we are all richer , healthier , better fed and safer from climate disasters .
You need to understand that it's NOT about facts at all. It’s all about the absolutely critical maintenance of a positive Karma balance while fattening oneself with Cheetos and Oreo cookies, collecting unemployment, and watching daytime TV without feeling guilt! For that, one needs the following: • Belong to a victim class • Give money to a cause that will save the world from something • Keep up-to-date on the latest vocabulary and narrative The hypocrites and grifters inside and outside government, academia, and big media actually provide an INVALUABLE service to a huge number of people in maintaining various fictions and rationalizations for which they are paid millions of increasingly worthless dollars. And when it all comes crashing down, they can complain about bad luck, that things aren’t fair, and that once again, it wasn’t TRUE socialism! -QQuerius
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Vividbleau @176
Follow the money, climate change is a 1.5 trillion dollar industry based off one failed prediction after another.
You mean like the hockey stick? All due to simple and totally understandable decimal point and round off errors. It can happen to anyone. But now . . . now we REALLY know with high precision that we must fundamentally change the planet in the next 10 years, 2 months, and 14.225 days or we will all be doomed! (smirk) Vividbleau @180,
UN: “1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000”
And therefore, we need to spend 100 trillion dollars on consulting fees to create a council to investigate the implications of a Time Machine to save humanity . . . . and baby ducks. -QQuerius
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This is all silly and pointless. There is no discussion here. A few are attempting to hypnotize the rest by posting random bits of data but the average person could care less. Terms like "climate change" are just background noise. There's no reason to believe it. What should be focused on is people like John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. How he became the richest man in the world. And on what Elon Musk - the current richest man in the world - is doing.. He's only worth $219 Billion. He can do what he wants. And he is. The questions are: Who is planning and implementing the future? Who benefits. Meanwhile, Ford and BMW are getting solid state batteries by the end of this year. Higher energy capacity, high charge-discharge cycles, but not just for cars but ANY type of electrical storage, including solar and wind.relatd
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Alan Fox: You say, "It's too late now," but you're saying this amid very high European temperatures. When people are freezing to death this winter, might that change your mind? I find it interesting (or is 'disturbing' the better word) that when it 'snows' in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, it's called nothing more than 'weather,' but when it's abnormally hot, it becomes a confirmation of "climate change." Always a double-standard.PaV
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And these same psychos probably think that extreme weather events will stop if... something politically correct happens. Andrewasauber
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This about sums it up: "We are now in such collective psychosis that it is taken for granted that whatever you see: hotter , colder, wetter ,drier is always caused by CO2 and naughty human behaviour. There is not longer any attempt at analysis." Andrewasauber
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Climate Crisis? Ever Fewer People Dying of Climate Disasters. There’s Hype, And There’s Reality The chicken little alarmists are still so clueless.ET
July 22, 2022
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Changing tack I have just read death in New Zealand from Covid have reach an all time high. They had one of the strictest lock downs in the world , but alas you cannot outrun the virus , it seems Sweden were on the money all along.Marfin
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AF, notice, "awash" vs "concentrated"? The solar energy and wind or tidal energy are diffuse and in low concentrations that would require serious infrastructure to harvest and store to provide baseload and peaking, load following power. EVs are fashionable but I noted the issue of battery replacement after what 60k miles? Huge capital cost that could be more than the vehicle's depreciated value (which will be affected by that limit). There are range and recharge time and grid loading issues, also storage . . . which is what batteries are. Those issues don't go away with politically driven "incentives." Then, the materials required for such batteries require elements that put you in thrall to dangerous powers, and require truly dirty processes. Fuel cells are something and alcohol fuels are something. There is a reason I point to pebble bed reactors and to fusion when we can get it. KFkairosfocus
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KF Energy is not in short supply. We are awash with it. The key is storage. But as in all technological R & D, politics and money decide priorities. I agree fossil fuels (gasoline and diesel) have their advantages as fuel but the rapid advance in electric vehicles and batteries shows what is possible with the right incentives. I agree fuel cells should be at the forefront of development but how hydrogen is generated is an issue.Alan Fox
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AF, simplistic, again. The reality is, there are few energy sources as concentrated and convenient as fossil fuels, especially oil and its derivatives, diesel, kerosene [jet fuel], gasoline. The oil industry is high risk on exploration and has high associated challenges. I think, we need to look at a spectrum of possibilities and options, bearing in mind that if fusion ever comes through it will be after over a century of trying to come up with viable technologies. If algae fuel [and byproduct food] come through that would be big; such may be a big part of how oil came to be. Butanol is viable as a replacement for gasoline. Biodiesels are comparably important. Battery replacement costs and implications of the sources of key metals for batteries give me pause and point me to fuel cell hopes, esp. alcohol fuel cell hopes. Pebble bed modular reactors should not be overlooked. Nor should Ocean Thermal Energy conversion [with byproduct fish farming], and more. Energy storage including pumped water load levelling, and more also come to mind. KFkairosfocus
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