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BREAKING: Is the 1934 Bayer anti-malarial, Chloroquine, a potential Covid-19 breakthrough treatment?

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And, why is that (which was announced yesterday by Mr Trump) not top- of- fold headline news everywhere?

Bayer, US, has announced, March 19:

>>Bayer today announced it is joining the U.S. Government’s fight against COVID-19 with a donation of 3 million tablets of the drug Resochin (chloroquine phosphate).

Resochin, a product discovered by Bayer in 1934 and indicated for prevention and treatment of malaria, also appears to have broad spectrum antiviral properties and effects on the body’s immune response. New data from initial preclinical and evolving clinical research conducted in China, while limited, shows potential for the use of Resochin in treating patients with COVID-19 infection.

Bayer in recent days has been in talks with the White House, HHS, CDC, and the FDA, offering any assistance we can provide with a focus on donating Resochin to help in the government’s efforts to combat the virus.

Currently not approved for use in the United States, Bayer is working with appropriate agencies on an Emergency Use Authorization for the drug’s use in the U.S.

Bayer thanks the Trump administration for moving quickly to enable this donation and will continue to work closely with the administration to support its efforts in the fight against COVID-19. >>

Here is Mr Trump’s announcement during what seems to be the now daily Covid-19 White House Covid-19 task force briefing:

No, ABC, it is not merely touting. In recent days, a leading researcher in France has posted a breaking news peer-reviewed report on a clinical test, which has shown remarkable success, which is all over the French language Youtube space, e.g. AP:

Yes, March 4, TWO WEEKS AGO.

The Paper’s Abstract:

>> Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open- label non-randomized clinical trial

Abstract

Background

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have been found to be efficient on SARS-CoV-2, and reported to be efficient in Chinese COV-19 patients. We evaluate the role of hydroxychloroquine on respiratory viral loads. 

Patients and methods

French Confirmed COVID-19 patients were included in a single arm protocol from early March to March 16th to receive 600mg of hydroxychloroquine daily and their viral load in nasopharyngeal swabs was tested daily in a hospital setting. Depending on their clinical presentation, azithromycin was added to the treatment. Untreated patients from another center and cases refusing the protocol were included as negative controls. Presence and absence of virus at Day 6-post inclusion was considered the end point.

Results

Six patients were asymptomatic, 22 had upper respiratory tract infection symptoms and eight had lower respiratory tract infection symptoms. Twenty cases were treated in this study and showed a significant reduction of the viral carriage at D6-post inclusion compared to controls, and much lower average carrying duration than reported of untreated patients in the literature. Azithromycin added to hydroxychloroquine was significantly more efficient for virus elimination.

Conclusion

Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/ disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin.  >>

Going back 15 years, this should not be surprising, as SARS — a closely similar corona virus [some call Covid-19, SARS2], was reported in the virology literature as responsive to Chloroquine:

>>Virology Journal
2, Article number: 69 (2005)
Research Open Access Published: 22 August 2005

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

Abstract
Background
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.
Results
We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.
Conclusion
Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds. >>

In short, there has been reason to look seriously at Chloroquine, for fifteen years. That’s why John Delingpole has a point, and a right to ask a pretty pointed question:

>>It ought to be no surprise that chloroquine is effective against both SARS and COVID-19. After all, they are both coronaviruses and COVID-19 has often been described in medical and research sources as SARS-2.

Chloroquine works by enabling the body’s cells better to absorb zinc, which is key in preventing viral RNA transcription – and disrupting the often fatal cytokine storm.

As at least one person has noticed, the implications of this are enormous. If the medical establishment – including CDC – has been aware of the efficacy of chloroquine in treating coronavirus for at least 14 years, why has it not been mass produced and made available sooner?>>

So, should we be focussing significant attention on Chloroquine? Should we be asking pointed questions on how our polarised media may distort our consideration of crucial issues? END

U/D: There is a further report, giving a summary, vid:

https://youtu.be/Oy4AJP8nAPg

Money shot clip of remarks by US Rep Mark Green, a former US Army Flight Surgeon:

The old reliable Malaria drug chloroquine, the newer version hydroxychloroquine has shown really good, three studies, one in Australia, one in China and now one in France mixed with azithromycin, just the old Z-Pac that we take for bronchitis, has had 100%.  It cleared the virus, in some cases in three days,  that cocktail in every one of the patients in that study . . . It’s very promising, 100% of the virus gone in six days!

Let’s see if this holds up. If so, a breakthrough.

U/D, Mar 22: US vs other per capita Covid-19 death rates (HT, PowerLine):

Clipping:

Our friend Brian Sullivan has updated the international mortality table that I posted a few days ago, through yesterday. It shows deaths per million of population in 12 Western European countries, South Korea and the U.S. The blue bar shows the per capita death rate (per million) as of March 16, the orange bar as of March 20 . . . . Italy has the highest mortality rate by far, at 67 per million. It is too early to gauge the ultimate course of the epidemic, but in crude terms it looks as though Italy is heading for a death rate of something like 100 per million. It could easily go higher than that . . . . let’s assume the U.S. ultimately sees a mortality rate of 100 per million. That would be 143 times the current U.S. rate, not outside the realm of possibility. Do the math: if we have around 330 million people, and 100 die per million, that equals 33,000, which would be equivalent to the deaths from an average seasonal flu season. Maybe it’s worse than that; maybe by the time it runs its course, the death toll from COVID-19 rises to 200 per million, 286 times the current rate. That would still be less than the death toll from flu in the U.S. just two years ago.

That gives us some perspective that should help us to turn from over-wrought, deeply polarised rhetoric and political posturing. Then, let us refocus the key point here, there are hopeful potential treatments.

U/D Mar 23: From European CDC, trackers on rate of growth of cases to March 20, in days since hitting 100 cases:

Notice, how China is an outlier on the high side, and Singapore on the low side. Both Canada and the US are in the general European band, Canada happens to lag the US as things got out of containment there later it seems.

U/D Mar 24: As there was a debate overnight on “bell” curve impulses, let us look at the impulse-cumulative effect curve for “serious” cases of Covid-19 for South Korea, which seems to be among the best for statistical records:

We here see a lin-lin plot [cyan] of the cumulative cases, showing a sigmoid with of course statistical noise. Superposed, to a different scale, is number of fresh cases, shown as a bar chart. The pattern is clear, and is as expected. Notice, the jump in slope at the 909 peak, topping off the concave up part, then the emergence onward of a concave down pattern. The worst day, ironically, marked the point of inflexion where the cumulative case curve began to flatten out.

Next, with that in mind, let us look at the general pattern, using log-lin plots that allow read-off of growth rates etc as we explored yesterday:

The general sigmoid pattern still appears, obviously, but in a different format. Here, we see that the general pattern once initial lodgement achieves breakout is an early, quasi-exponential growth. In effect, we face an invasion and the first cases form bridgeheads that are prone to breakout, posing a challenge to stabilise by imposing a saturation before the natural one of infecting enough for herd immunity to stop further spread.

Stabilisation is obviously a major challenge.

Notice, too, the “main stream” at doubling every 2 – 3 days that was discussed yesterday. It is notable that the low-rate outliers are asian countries with experience of earlier dangerous epidemics or at least outbreaks, within the past 20 years. That suggests, institutional learning that we may find it advisable to tap. And, it suggests that the policy consensus for Europe and North America is significantly less effective.

Finally, as a reminder, here are impulse-bells for China and South Korea, overlapped in time:

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Follow-up https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/hydrochloroquine-wars-2-a-ny-physician-speaks-of-hundreds-of-successful-patients-a-governor-bans-use-in-nevada/kairosfocus
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F/N: I am thinking, the hyper-spreading incident in S Korea may help explain the way a breakout can happen and it then shows how hard it is to get back to saturation or slowed growth. Here is a clip:
https://thegroundtruthproject.org/timeline-how-south-korea-reacted-to-the-covid-19-outbreak/ An anonymous, middle-aged woman known as “Patient 31” tested positive for COVID-19 in South Korea after developing a fever. As a member of a fringe church called Shincheonji Church of Jesus — which has a self-reported membership of roughly 200,000 worldwide — Patient 31 incidentally spread the virus to dozens of other Shincheonji congregants in the Southeastern city of Daegu. This quickly caused a massive outbreak. Within days, Patient 31 became known in South Korean media as “Super Ajumma” for spreading the virus to so many others (a play on the word “ajumeoni,” which is a title of respect normally given to middle-aged women). News organizations also began reporting that Patient 31 had originally refused a coronavirus test, though she later denied these allegations in an interview. In a matter of three days, South Korea’s confirmed coronavirus cases multiplied more than six-fold, from 31 to 204 by Feb. 21. Less than two weeks later, the number of cases surpassed 6,000, according to the KCDC. “It was a bit of a shock when we got Patient 31, and it was a bit crazy watching it all escalate from there,” said K. Roberts, a 31-year-old English teacher living Daegu. “But I think [South Korea] has been doing the best it can to deal with this.”
We see here how lodgement can break out and how hard it is to manage breakout. The article goes on to discuss various measures, leading up to this:
March 9, 2020: The fight is still going South Korea continues to battle its COVID-19 outbreak, with confirmed cases of novel coronavirus continuing on a daily basis. However, medical experts believe that the worst of the outbreak might be over: Only 69 new cases of the virus were reported on March 9, amounting to the lowest rate of increase in 10 days. “I’m still extremely cautious, but there’s hope we can reach a turning point in the near future,” Prime Minister Chung Sye-kyun told reporters. As of March 9, more than 196,000 people have been tested for COVID-19 in South Korea since the beginning of the outbreak, while 166 people have fully recovered. Hwang Seung-sik, a professor and spatio-temporal epidemiologist at Seoul National University, said that South Korea’s gameplan has largely shifted from attempting to contain the virus to treating those who are at most risk of dying from it. Since the majority of South Koreans who tested positive suffer only mild symptoms, many have been directed to treat themselves at smaller clinics while major hospitals focus on the most severe cases. “Hospital doctors will put their efforts more on severe patients, and mild patients will be treated in local health centers,” Hwang said. For the rest of the world, he offered one piece of advice: “It is up to other countries whether or not they will test patients, but it is impossible to contain the virus by locking down certain cities or isolating people, given the experience in Korea,” he said. “We tried hard to prevent the entry of COVID-19 from outside of Korea, but we found out that, in reality, people can be infected asymptomatically and still spread it.”
Notice, the implication of asymptomatic spreading. That suggests that to stop spreading, a general lockdown including of travel and of community interaction is needed for over one latency period, with further isolation of cases. That sort of lockdown will do serious economic damage. Another article notes:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/what-strategies-did-asia-use-to-slow-down-coronavirus-1.4199768 From Singapore to South Korea, countries across Asia have been mobilising for weeks in an attempt to contain the spread of the coronavirus. Some have had successes, combining mass-testing, technology and social distancing to stem the tide of infections. But uncertainty over the virus’s future course means the region is not out of the woods yet . . .
Singapore poses particular food for thought:
Singapore: financial support, clear messaging, big fines In the early stages of the outbreak Singapore appeared particularly hard hit. By mid-February it had recorded 58 infections, one of the highest numbers confirmed by any country outside China. Though the outbreak is far from over, the number of new cases emerging has appeared to slow over recent weeks, and 78 of 160 patients who tested positive have since recovered. “We don’t do anything different, we just do it well,” said Dale Fisher, professor at the National University of Singapore and chair of the Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network at the World Health Organisation. A staff takes the temperature of a visitor at the entrance of a library in Singapore. Photograph: How Hwee Young/EPA A staff takes the temperature of a visitor at the entrance of a library in Singapore. Photograph: How Hwee Young/EPA Singpore, a major business hub with large numbers of international visitors, has a strictly enforced home quarantine system and an exhaustive contact-tracing programme. This is underpinned by clear messaging from officials, who have repeatedly emphasised the need for collective social responsibility, said Fisher. Authorities have also warned of harsh penalties for those who break guidelines. Since the start of the outbreak thousands of people in Singapore have isolated themselves. Anyone required to do so can be called multiple times a day and asked to click an online link sharing their phone’s location. Officials also carry out spot checks in person to ensure compliance. Those who do not stay home can expect a fine of up to $10,000 or up to six months in prison. There is some financial support for people who are isolated: self-employed workers have been offered $100 per day, and people who are not able to remain isolated at home can stay in a government facility. For this quarantining system to be effective, officials must track down affected people as quickly as possible. Contacts are being traced by the Singapore police force, who use CCTV as well as interviews with patients to draw up lists of people who may have been exposed. Though Singapore has introduced charges for visitors who require treatment, tests are free for all. Officials have stressed that the number of cases is still likely to rise. The health minister Gan Kim Yong said many locally transmitted cases “were the result of the socially irresponsible actions of a few individuals” who continued to go out and mix with others despite having symptoms. Some argue that other countries – especially those with large populations that were less willing to accept sweeping restrictions – would struggle to adopt the same approach as Singapore, which has a high quality health system. Officials have a tight grip on the media and have been accused by rights groups of using fake news laws to clamp down on critical opinions online. “I don’t accept that it wouldn’t work [elsewhere],” said Mr Fisher, but he adds that officials elsewhere need to give clear and consistent public health messages. “If the community is not engaged then they won’t take the response seriously.”
We need to think again. KFkairosfocus
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Jawa & EG: As already noted in other threads there is a lack of consistency in even definitions/diagnosis of who has the disease, how one determines its contribution to death, attribution of cause of death etc etc. In addition, the big issue is that if facilities and staff are overwhelmed, death rates will shoot up [and triage in the military sense will kick in, leading to prioritising who to treat based on likelihood of survival and further utility]. KFkairosfocus
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EG, good to see more possibilities being explored. I would like details on why it is thought that colchicine is a good enough candidate to run such a test but that seems a typical problem with media reports. I suggest, use a technical text box [in a highlight colour or shading] or infographic that gives the next level of detail and where to go for more. KF PS: I see from another article that what is targetted is the cytokine storm which is a potentially deadly immune response that reminds of allergies and how immune system reactions out of proper order can kill:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-heart-institute-study-colchicine-1.5506930 [Dr Jean-Claude] Tardif, a cardiologist and professor of medicine at Université de Montréal, says the drug could mitigate the lung inflammation which leaves many COVID-19 patients struggling to breathe. That can escalate into an "'inflammatory storm" which can in turn [rapidly] lead to death.
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Any reasonable explanation for the huge differences in mortality rates?
It could also be affected by different levels of testing.Ed George
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KF, an interesting drug trial being done in Canada. https://apple.news/AfYxjYM6UTmS7-PcECAjWmgEd George
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Yes, age profile of victims multiplied by overwhelming of key life preserving health care facilities. That is what the flatten the curve issue is about. Where, the older are far more likely to get deadly complications.kairosfocus
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Any reasonable explanation for the huge differences in mortality rates?jawa
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KF, Very informative OP. Thank you. Here's some information I saw at the WHO website today: Country: total number of reported cases / total deaths // mortality rate China :81747 cases / 3283 // 4.02 Italy :63927 cases / 6077 // 9.51 United States of America :42164 cases / 471 // 1.12 Spain :33089 cases / 2182 // 6.59 Germany :29212 cases / 126 // 0.43 Iran (Islamic Republic of) :23049 cases / 1812 // 7.86 France :19615 cases / 860 // 4.38 Republic of Korea :9037 cases / 120 // 1.33 Switzerland :8015 cases / 66 // 0.82 The United Kingdom :6654 cases / 335 // 5.03 Netherlands :4749 cases / 213 // 4.49 Austria :4486 cases / 25 // 0.56jawa
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U/D: I have added charts showing the sigmoid and driving impulse pattern for CV19, also the general pattern of growth. KFkairosfocus
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*so many problems*Truthfreedom
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@122 Kairosfocus: For the naturalist, everything is 'nature'. Therefore, they can not apply the distinction natural vs artificial selection. A human can not be 'artificial' using their logic (although we know that they do not care at all). {A|~A} (nature vs what transcends nature) makes sense for the theist. And that is why they face so much problems with their doctrine.Truthfreedom
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U/D: US Trials of Chloroquine and z-pac to begin Tue in NY:
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Sunday that New York State has acquired 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of zithromax and 750,000 doses of chloroquine to implement drug trials to treat patients with coronavirus, which will begin on Tuesday
Things begin to roll. KFkairosfocus
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TF, artificial and extirpitation selection pressure by intelligent design. KFkairosfocus
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By applying chloroquine (or other drugs), we are exerting selective pressures on COVID-19. We are using our hard work to eliminate the virus/ reduce its numbers. Are we 'natural' selection or not? If not, what are we then?Truthfreedom
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EG, wrong. Kindly, note the U/D to the OP above, showing a log-lin plot across various countries for number of [officially recognised] cases post 100. Observe too, the benchmark lines showing slopes for various doubling times. China is an outlier for fastest spread, Singapore for slowest. Clustering in the neighbourhood of 2 and 3 day doubling period are the European countries and their North American Extensions, US and Canada. The difference is only that Canada as at Mar 20 was lagging the US in that band by about 10 days. With a highly infectious epidemic and well before saturation effects [natural or imposed] come in, effective growth after breakout from confinement will be quasi-exponential. That plots as a straight line with a given slope. Real data will be noisy and wobbly as a result. Then as saturation comes in, the line will curve over, flattening out. Further to this, the bloc of countries including US and Canada are exhibiting very similar dynamics; if one reflects alleged mismanagement, so does the other. The difference between the US and Canada can be eyeballed, Canada's breakout from initial containment of the bridgehead lodgement happened about ten days after the American one. Lodgement was not prevented, reflecting a weak point somewhere, and breakout was not prevented, reflecting another weak point somewhere. In military terms, with finite resources a defence cannot be strong everywhere, the game is to try to hold off lodgement then impose a saturation as soon as possible, the power of the opponent is beyond our simple control. In that light, the issue is to impose a low saturation, by trying to break the onward transmission. Effective treatment will hopefully suppress death rates, social distancing and quarantine across a full latency cycle will help to impose saturation. Beyond, vaccination will impose a strong everywhere defence, via herd immunity. This will then lead to an arms race between a high mutation rate, highly contagious RNA virus and onward vaccines. In short, the annual Flu shot game just added a new player. KF PS: Notice, the various countries plot in recognisable patterns on absolute number of cases, not per population. The spreading is by direct or close [community] contact, on a short-range force basis. Once there is a breakout point from a lodgement and space to expand, expanding will happen until saturation effects block the quasi-exponential growth. And yes, all of these dynamics can be read off from the log-lin curve with an eye to relevant variables and slopes.kairosfocus
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EG, testing makes little difference to when the breakout begins,
True, but it can make a huge difference in the quick and effective implementation of preventive actions. The infections started in Canada and the US at about the same time. And both countries have similar population densities for the majority of their population (densities, not overall numbers). It still is worth examining why Canada's numbers are roughly half what would be expected based on relative population alone. Note: Ontario, Canada's most populous province, just announced that they are closing all non-essential businesses until further notice.Ed George
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Can I i.e. kill my laptop? Is the immune system morally reprehensible for 'killing' viruses? :)Truthfreedom
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Ed George Are viruses 'alive' or not? :) How can a drug 'kill' something if it that thing is not 'alive'? :)Truthfreedom
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EG, testing makes little difference to when the breakout begins, that is probably a random distribution, the issue is the virus is so contagious. Second, we see that Canada and most European states are following more or less the same track. So, if the US is dismally failing in its efforts, so is Canada, so is the bulk of Europe per the pattern. In fact the real issues of management would be to find a way to lock out, which seems hard. Then, to find a treatment. That is happening now and it is likely that this will dominate the onward path of the epidemic. Beyond, lies a vaccine. KFkairosfocus
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Sorry, only the first sentence should be in blockquotes.Ed George
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KF@110,
Canada just hit 100 cases later than the US. But why is that? Both Canada and the US both saw their first cases at the same time. Both countries have most of their population in large cities. As of March 13, Canada had tested more people per capita, covering a broader range, than the US did. But we should compare populations of similar density. Chicago and Toronto have roughly the same population (~2.8 million). Toronto has 220 cases and Chicago has 519. Toronto has one death. I couldn't find the total deaths for Chicago but Illinois has 9, and approximately 50% of cases are in Chicago. Interpret that as you would like. Illinois has a population of 12.7 million as compared to Ontario's population of 14.6 million. Illinois has 1049 cases and Ontario has 410. In most comparisons, Canada has numbers approximately half of what we would expect based on US numbers, assuming everything else is equal. All I am saying is that these differences are worth looking at. They may not be relevant or significant, but we won't know until we look.
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Kairosfocus: But parasites are living entities. The theory of 'evolution' supposedly explains the arising of new species. (groups of living entities).Truthfreedom
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TF, viruses are not alive, they are in effect parasites on cell based life. KFkairosfocus
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Ed George Are viruses 'alive'? :) If they are not, how can your theory of 'evolution' explain them? Remember that 'species' are groups of living entities. *On the Origin of Species*. Am I wrong?Truthfreedom
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EG, notice today's update, which shows the US and Canada are on the same growth path, along with the Europe band. Canada just hit 100 cases later than the US. Eyeball Mk I suggests, about 10 days behind. KFkairosfocus
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U/D: I found and appended a tracker on growth rate of Covid-19 cases by country. China is high outlier, Singapore low outlier, with both the US and Canada on the general European band. The difference is, Canada seems to have hit 100 cases later than the US, we can take that as a threshold for breakout from containment. KFkairosfocus
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That said, the cumulative deaths per capita for the US, to date, is low compared to other leading countries.
This is true but there are a couple complicating factors involved. The other countries with high infection rates started their infections a couple weeks before the US. We will have to wait a couple weeks to see. The other factor is that the other countries with high infection and death rates also have high population densities.
The further point is, that it is the overwhelming of the health care system that pushes death rates up.
And it is this that the current actions are trying to minimize. Hopefully chloroquine will help with this. But it is likely that it will not be prescribed until people are already in the hospital. If it shortens the time of hospital stays, that will be a great benefit. But I am always skeptical of cures that are spread in the media during times of fear. Even if effective they may cause more harm than good by people mis-using them, as we have already seen in a couple instances.Ed George
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AS78, I think you allude to Ms Pelosi. While I spoke more generally, it is obvious from recent events that we see a degree of polarisation that has led to reckless use of reserve powers of government to impeach, in disregard of the ever-present natural law of justice that governs all of our rational, responsible behaviour, much less government. Principles such as first duties of reason, to truth, to right reason, to prudence [so, warrant], to sound conscience, to neighbourliness, to fairness and justice etc. Those have been disregarded in pursuit of power, manifested in ruthless, nihilist6ic factionalism. Even references to the US Constitution are tainted by the associated legal positivism. let me be clear, through an historical reference: star chamber tactics and guilt by piled on accusations are never acceptable. In this context, to imagine that a crisis must not be allowed to go to waste, to push through a polarising agenda, is manifestly wrong. That sort of behaviour, which is all too manifest in the media and chattering classes as well as among too much of the political class of the US, is manifestly wrong and ruinous. But, once deep polarisation amounting to low grade civil war has set in, that is very hard to break -- just look above, where politics and scapegoating were repeatedly injected into a thread of discussion that should have been about serious possible cures. One trusts that enough of the electorate will take due note of what is going on and will make their displeasure so manifest that it will check the folly. KFkairosfocus
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BR, there is, regrettably, a pandemic. That is the equivalent of a state of global war. If we have a net death rate of 1% and infection rate of 50%, over this year we may see 39 million or so additional deaths, roughly the casualties of the European aspects of WW2. We know this is highly contagious and that it is a killer with bias to the elderly and those with preconditions. We further know that if hospital facilities are overwhelmed, death rates will surge. Such warrants using what is now called social distancing, quarantining and border control to break the spreading cycle, requiring several weeks. Once, this has got out of containment into a community. In much of the US, it has. Unfortunately such a lock-down has financial and economic consequences, and it is a reasonable step to try to provide financial cushions that allow people to survive and allow businesses to avoid going under. Global and national GDPs are going to take a hit, we need to try to avert a down-spiral into depression. Depression, itself is a killer. KFkairosfocus
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