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CLAVDIVS: “Design as a cause is compatible with materialism” — is that so?

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While I am busy locally, I think it is important to discuss the issue as just headlined here at UD. Let me clip from the “Materialism makes you stupid” thread:

>>27 CLAVDIVS

Design as a cause is compatible with materialism.

Where’s the beef?>>

and

>>28 kairosfocus

C, design is compatible with embodied designers — we are embodied designers. Evolutionary materialism is inescapably self referentially incoherent and irretrievably self-falsifying as a worldview. Whether or no it is dressed up in a lab coat . . . threatening to take the credibility of science down with it in the ruins of its inevitable collapse. And that is some serious beef. KF>>

So, who is right, why? END