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A couple of weeks ago a friend forwarded me a link to this recent article about “ongoing research to record the interaction of environment and evolution” by University of California, Riverside biologist David Reznick. Reznick’s team has been studying adaptive changes in guppies. Reznick’s work focuses on tracking what happens in real-world situations in the wild, rather than the somewhat artificial environments in the lab. As a result, Reznick has gathered some of the more trustworthy and definitive data about changes over time in a real-world environment, largely free from the intervention and interference of the coated lab worker.

The article states:

The new work is part of research that Reznick has been doing since 1978. It involved transplanting guppies from a river with a diverse community of predators into a river with no predators – except for one other fish species, an occasional predator – to record how the guppies would evolve and how they might impact their environment.

In the recent follow-up research, Reznick’s team studied “how male color pattern affected” their differential survival in the environment. Significantly, the team even gathered DNA from the guppies over time to track who their parents were and reconstruct a guppie pedigree to help determine the reproductive success. Without going into all the details, which are interesting in their own right, the key point for my purposes today is that this adaptive change occurred extremely quickly.

Graduate student, Swanne Gordon, noted,

Our research shows that these fish adapted to their new habitats in less than one year, or three to four generations, which is even faster than we previously thought.

Reznick adds,

People think of evolution as historical. They don’t think of it as something that’s happening under our nose. It is a contemporary process. People are skeptical; they don’t believe in evolution because they can’t see it. Here, we see it. We can see if something makes you better able to make babies and live longer.

What Really Happened?

Now normally when my friend forwards a link, I will just review the article, realize it is making claims beyond the data, and move on. But coincidentally, just days earlier I had been reading Chapter 7 of Lee Spetner’s 1998 book, Not by Chance!

Part of Spetner’s argument is that many adaptive changes we see in nature are in fact not examples of a Darwinian process of chance changes + natural selection, but instead the result of specific programming capabilities in the organism to allow it to respond to changes in the environment. Indeed, what caught my eye about the article my friend forwarded is that Spetner had discussed Reznick’s earlier experiments in that very context.

After describing two different predators of the guppies: (i) the cichlid, which prey on large mature guppies; and (ii) the killfish, which prey on small immature guppies, Spetner continues:

Reznick and his team took 200 guppies from the Aripo [river in Trinidad] and put them in a tributary of the river that is home to the killfish but has no cichlids and had no guppies. Changes soon appeared in the newly introduced guppies. The fish population soon changed to what would normally be found in the presence of the killfish, and Reznick found the changes to be heritable.

The full change in the guppy population was observed as soon as the first samples were drawn, which was after only two years. One trait studied, the age of males at maturity, achieved its terminal value in only four years. The evolutionary rate calculated from this observation is some ten million times the rate of evolution induced from observations of the fossil record [Reznick et al. 1997].

Reznick interpreted these changes as the result of natural selection acting on variation already in the population. Could natural selection have acted so fast as to change the entire population in only two years?

Spetner goes on to argue that the adaptive change observed in the guppies is more likely the result of a programmed response to environmental change, and provides several examples of such changes in other species.

Where is the Darwinian Evolution?

Darwinian evolution, as we know, is supposed to work by natural selection weeding out random variation. The Neo-Darwinian model has traditionally gone a step further, suggesting that those random variations are genetic in nature — taking place in the DNA as a copying error here, a misplaced sequence there, an accidental cut-and-paste elsewhere . . .

So the question arises: do the kinds of rapid, adaptive, reversible changes Reznick observed owe their existence to this kind of Darwinian process, or are they the result of a pre-programmed genetic response to environmental changes?

Spetner makes a good argument that we are observing the latter. He goes on to show that even many of the classical examples of Darwinian evolution — you know, the examples of random mutation + natural selection that even most evolutionary skeptics have tended to accept: convergent “evolution” of plants in similar environments, the “evolution” of bacteria to live on lactose or salicin — are not good examples of Darwinian evolution at all. Even that icon of icons, finch beaks in the Galapagos, is likely not a good example of the alleged Neo-Darwinian mechanism of random mutation + natural selection.

All of this prompts me to ask a simple, but pointed, question:

How many good examples are there of Darwinian evolution?

The more research I do the more I come to the same conclusion Spetner did, namely that most adaptive changes are not the result of the random, purposeless changes Darwinian evolution posits as the engine of biological novelty.

Even skeptics of the grand evolutionary claims tend to accept, either specifically or implicitly, that Darwinian evolution can produce all kinds of minor adaptive changes, the so-called microevolutionary changes: variations in finch beaks, insect resistance to insecticides, coloration of peppered moths, and so on. And indeed, the “selection” side of the formula seems to work well, which is simply the somewhat pedestrian observation that if an organism is poorly adapted to its environment it has a poor chance of surviving.

Yet the engine of the novelty, the alleged random variation that is supposed to provide all this adaptive variability on which selection can work its magic, seems stubbornly absent. Even these most common of examples, on closer inspection, do not support the Darwinian claim. Thus the doubts multiply. If Darwinian evolution cannot even claim explanatory credit for things like bacteria being able to metabolize lactose, what can it explain? The more closely we look, the more anemic the Darwinian claim becomes.

Now we could be intellectually lazy and call every adaptive change we observe an example of “evolution.” But the problem with observing a change and claiming that we have observed “evolution” is that (i) we rob the word of explanatory value if it is applied indiscriminately, and (ii) we trick ourselves into thinking we have an explanation for what occurred, when in fact we have have no idea what is happening at the molecular level or the organismal level to produce the change. Claiming that we are witnessing “evolution” in such circumstances becomes then not so much an explanation as a confession of ignorance.

Real Darwinian Evolution

There are no doubt quite a number of legitimate, confirmed examples of random mutation + natural selection producing an important biological effect. For example, I think Behe’s review of malaria/sickle cell trait is a legitimate example of Darwinian evolution in action. And the circumstances of that example are rather telling: (a) large population size, (b) meaningful amount of time, (c) very strong selection pressure, (d) and change that can be caused by one or two single-point mutations.

If we see adaptive change outside of these parameters — small population, short timeframe, an adaptation that requires significant genetic change — we might be better served to suspect that we are witnessing a programmed adaptive response, rather than Darwinian evolution. And rather than being naively impressed with the great power of Darwinian evolution to act more rapidly than anticipated, we should be prompted to look deeper to find what is actually taking place.

Your Turn

In addition to the malaria/sickle cell example, what other examples of legitimate, confirmed Darwinian evolution can you think of?

Comments
Virgil Cain:
Zachriel is an insipid troll and an equivocator.
Everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Questioning ID is not allowed. That's what makes ID unscientific.Carpathian
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Virgil Cain:
And yet not one of those alleged ” thousands of “Darwinist” scientists” can support evolutionism. Not one of them can model it. And not one of them uses it as a research heuristic.
Of course they can and of course they do. Not one IDist however, has ever attempted to model biological ID. If they ever tried they would fail. Knowing this, all methodology questions are off the table, unlike "Darwinism" which welcomes them.Carpathian
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Virgil Cain Please be gentle with natural selection it is very sensitive, I heard it is so sensitive it cries when it farts.Andre
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Carpathian Please answer my question first. Are you denying the evidence that natural selection is impotent?Andre
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Carpathian I guess you still haven't figured it out yet so let me help. What you guys talk about natural selection is no different that saying God did it. A creature is big it was natural selection. A creature is small natural selection. A creature is optimal it's natural selection. A creature is not optimal it's natural selection. If it happens it's natural selection, if it does not happen it's natural selection. If a creature benefits it's natural selection if a creature is impeded it is natural selection. Since natural selection is responsible for everything it means it is impotent and is actually responsible for nothing. Get it? (Won't hold my breath)Andre
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Carpathian:
Since you and other IDists hand-wave away evidence of “Darwinism”...
There isn't any evidence for darwinism, well beyond disease and deformities.Virgil Cain
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Zachriel:
Natural selection can be directly observed.
That is incorrect. It can only be natural selection if the genetic change was accidental/ happenstance. and we don't have a methodology for making that determination. Zachriel is an insipid troll and an equivocator.Virgil Cain
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Andre:
You are defelecting again, can we ask? Is there such a thing as an honest Darwinist?
Is there such a thing as an honest IDist? When Bill Dembski was asked who the designer was, he said God. That was an honest response. So I'll ask you to back up the statement you made. Since you and other IDists hand-wave away evidence of "Darwinism", according to you , you must have an agenda. So, what is the agenda of ID? Why does it exist?Carpathian
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Carpathian:
For every “ID” scientist there are thousands of “Darwinist” scientists.
And yet not one of those alleged " thousands of “Darwinist” scientists" can support evolutionism. Not one of them can model it. And not one of them uses it as a research heuristic.Virgil Cain
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Carpathian How can I not laugh at such comedy? Its impossible to keep a straight face when someone says...... "Natural selection is sensitive"..... think about what that means....Andre
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Carpathian You are defelecting again, can we ask? Is there such a thing as an honest Darwinist? My question to you again and I hope by the power of evolution not Grayskull that you will answer. Are you denying the evidence that Natural selection is impotent?Andre
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Andre:
Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You and Virgil Cain should publish a paper. It could be called, "Proving Your Point With Disrespect And Exclamation Marks". This would be required reading for students in science class.Carpathian
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Andre:
Why are you deflecting? I’ll ask again. Are you denying the evidence that NS is impotent?
I have assumed your statement to be true.
You.... ....stated that those people ....who hand-wave away evidence, ... must have an agenda. If this is true, .... then IDists must have an agenda .... since they hand-wave away evidence.
For every ID scientist, there are thousands in opposition . Since you ignore this evidence, according to you, you must have an agenda. What is the point of ID?Carpathian
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Zachriel Like I said you are foobar.... You can't even spot the problem... Don't you see it? Are you so blinded by your hatred for truth that anything can fool you?Andre
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Darwin Sexual selection falsified! http://phys.org/news/2012-06-ucla-biologists-reveal-potential-fatal.html https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13535-have-peacock-tails-lost-their-sexual-allure/Andre
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Andre: There was no Natural selection involved in the creation or collapse of the Galapagos finches Um, that paper is all about the effects of natural selection on hybridization; so no, it doesn't undermine Grant & Grant. Andre: Then in August 2015 the latest in a long line of papers proving that NS is impotent…… http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150806091206.htm The study concerns a case where selection constrains speciation. That doesn't mean selection always constrains speciation. As the paper states, "The interplay between selection and aspects of the genetic architecture of traits (such as linkage, dominance, and epistasis) can either drive or constrain speciation."Zachriel
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Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! It is proven that Natural selection is impotent and then Zachriel drops this gem!
It is sensitive!
Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Help me I can't stop laughing! Whahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!Andre
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Zachriel If I had any hope for you it is now gone and will never return
Actually, natural selection can be very sensitive with larger populations. With sexual selection, this is further magnified.,
Nothing can be very sensitive? Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Andre
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Zachriel: 1. Computers generally have much lower computational resources than nature. EugeneS: A computer has nothing by and in itself. We're discussing evolutionary algorithms, as implemented on a computer. In any case, the point stands. Zachriel: 2. The amount of fiddling required to make computation plausible depends on the problem landscape. EugeneS: The fitness landscape is determined by the fitness function, that is key to GAs functioning well. As we said. Some landscapes are not amenable to evolutionary search. In nature, the fitness function is the relationship between the genome, phenotype, and the environment. EugeneS: Nature has no fitness function at all. The fitness function in biology is an abstraction referring to the relationship between the genome, phenotype, and the environment. EugeneS: Artificial selection is orders of magnitude stronger. Often true, but not necessarily. For instance, bacteria in contact with an antibiotic will be under strong selection. EugeneS: Humans can make decisions to select an individual showing the faintest signs of a desired trait. Nature can’t do it because it cannot make decisions. Actually, natural selection can be very sensitive with larger populations. With sexual selection, this is further magnified. EugeneS: Nature selects only from among existing functions, not for a future function. While not precisely true — phenotypic plasticity and protein mutation give a bit of a look ahead —, it's close enough for our purposes. EugeneS: t has zero potential for novelty. Novelty is a result of sources of variation, and also from the perspective of time where small changes accumulate into something new.Zachriel
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Now let me ask you guys, lets see who can spot what the problem is with Michael Lynch's view? Can WD400, Carpathian and Zachriel spot the problem?Andre
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Zachriel Honestly what is your agenda? The latest research on the Galapagos finches falsify Darwin's theory. http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/674899#references_tab_contents There was no Natural selection involved in the creation or collapse of the Galapagos finches, it was good old adaptation nothing more nothing less. Why is this so hard to accept? Even Michael Lynch who is no friend of ID has this to say;
"As it turns out, Lynch's approach to explaining genome complexity might be just what evolution needs to withstand criticisms leveled by the ID community. The popular misconception about evolution is that it proceeds entirely by natural selection and that it always benefits species, Lynch explains. The problem with this understanding is that it makes evolution via natural selection sound to some like evolution with a purpose. "Explaining everything in the natural world with natural selection is not that different from intelligent design," he says. "An intelligent design person just says well, here's something complex, let's just invoke an intelligent designer. If you're willing to invoke natural selection to explain everything, that's not science. It doesn't explain anything to simply say, 'natural selection did it.' Mutations don't arise de novo [anew] at the whim of natural selection." Numerous random changes accumulate in the genome. Some of those changes work, but most don't. What we see in organisms today isn't necessarily the most ideally adapted form, but instead what's simply good enough. Indeed, many experts in evolution share this view, but it's a view that has not made it into the popular understanding."
Then in August 2015 the latest in a long line of papers proving that NS is impotent...... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150806091206.htm The topic was discussed right here; https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/natural-selection-can-impede-new-species/ I see WD400, Zachriel and Carpathian all ignored commenting on it..... So again gentlemen are you denying than NS is impotent even with the latest evidence you have been exposed to?Andre
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Andre: Arteficial selection is observed natural selection not at all. Natural selection is observed, such as in guppies, finches, bacteria. For instance, see Grant & Grant, Natural selection in a population of Darwin's Finches, The American Naturalist 1989: "we combine functional and ecological aspects of trait variation in a population of Darwin's finches to demonstrate an interpretable fitness advantage in terms of survival to individuals with certain beak shapes."Zachriel
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Zachriel, 1. A computer has nothing by and in itself. It is the algorithm and its implementation that has a potential for problem solving. And even then an algorithm without a processor for it is really nothing. 2. The amount of fiddling required to make computation plausible depends on the problem landscape. What do you mean? The fitness landscape is determined by the fitness function, that is key to GAs functioning well. Nature has no fitness function at all. It has very weak means of selecting. Artificial selection is active and it is orders of magnitude more powerful. Humans can make decisions to select an individual showing the faintest signs of a desired trait. Nature can't do it because it cannot make decisions. Selection in the case of nature is rather a metaphor because it is passive. Nature selects only from among existing functions, not for a future function. It has zero potential for novelty. Nature can only produce ordered or disordered states. It is inert to function. First, function should come about, and only then does selection pressure apply. The first step can only be a result of intelligent actions, i.e. actions as part of planning, decision making and forethought.EugeneS
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Carpathian Why are you deflecting? I'll ask again. Are you denying the evidence that NS is impotent?Andre
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Zachriel Arteficial selection is observed natural selection not at all.Andre
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Andre:
Who said anything about ID?
You stated that those people who hand-wave away evidence, must have an agenda. If this is true, then IDists must have an agenda since they hand-wave away evidence. So again, what is the point of ID? Why is it necessary for biological ID to be accepted by the majority of people who instead accept the findings of a majority of scientists?Carpathian
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Andre: Are you denying that there is evidence that NS is impotent? Natural selection can be directly observed.Zachriel
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Carpathian Who said anything about ID? Are you also denying the evidence that NS is impotent? Are you handwaving bona fide findings?Andre
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Zachriel Are you denying that there is evidence that NS is impotent?Andre
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Andre:
If a person handwave all the evidence like that you can be sure it’s an agenda.
For every "ID" scientist there are thousands of "Darwinist" scientists. What then is the agenda of ID proponents?Carpathian
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