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Creationist speaker Ken Ham disinvited from university campus

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From Todd Starnes at Townhall:

The Todd Starnes Radio Show obtained exclusive emails between the UCO [University of Central Oklahoma] Student Association and Answers in Genesis explaining why they had to rescind the invitation and opt out of a signed and legally binding contract.

“We are currently getting bombarded with complaints from our LGBT community about Ken Ham speaking on our campus,” student body president Stockton Duvall wrote on Jan 25. “I was going to request that Mr. Ham refrains from talking on this issue, even if asked his views during the Q&A.”

Ham was scheduled to deliver his remarks on March 5 in the university’s Constitution Hall.

I find it highly ironic that after being booked to speak in the school’s Constitution Hall, our constitutional right to free speech and the exercise of religion, guaranteed under the First Amendment, have been denied,” Ham said. More.

Constitution? Aw, come on. Denial of the right to speak is one of the very few things about which one can say that, if we vote for it, we will surely get it.

Anyone remember the Ham on Nye debates? That must have been longer ago than it seems (2014).

Bill Nye encounters Ken Ham’s Ark. Nye is certainly adapting well to his new career as a pill. 😉

NBC weighs in on Nye-Ham debate, actually quotes Steve Meyer

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Resources for the Nye–Ham debate tonight. Here’s all but the snacks. Bring your own.

If people must be protected from heterodox ideas at a university, either 1) it isn’t a university or 2) they shouldn’t be there.

See also: Canadian psychologist takes on the howling post-modern void, largely alone. Prediction: This high-profile unhingedness about any disagreement (not just ID) will spread into the harder sciences now, as intersectionality takes hold. The science establishment, with no truth it cares to uphold, will be paralyzed by fear, rendering up the demanded victims to satisfy the growing monster.

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Lindsay Shepherd does not teach at the same WLU that I attended (1967-1971)

6 Replies to “Creationist speaker Ken Ham disinvited from university campus

  1. 1
    bornagain77 says:

    Of related interest to these complaints from the LGBT community,,

    “We are currently getting bombarded with complaints from our LGBT community about Ken Ham speaking on our campus,”

    Is this ‘complaint’ from a child who grew up in a LGBT home:

    Daughter of famed sci-fi author reveals sexual horrors she suffered growing up in LGBT home
    Excerpt: The Last Closet has been an Amazon bestseller for weeks as a Kindle e-book, and is scheduled to be published as a print book this month. Over one hundred readers have reviewed it, and virtually all have given it five stars.

    The book recounts Greyland’s life with her mother, who was the author of The Mists of Avalon and many other famous works of science fiction and fantasy, and her father, Walter Breen, who was a world-renowned authority on numismatics. Both identified as “gay,” both abused drugs and were involved in occult practices, and both were pedophiles, Greyland says, a claim that has been confirmed by her only surviving brother.
    The couple’s LGBT ideology was constantly imposed on the children by both parents. Greyland says that Zimmer Bradley expected her to take on masculine mannerisms and to become a lesbian, and was disappointed in her attraction to the opposite sex, accusing her of being a “breeder.” Greyland also had to hide from her parents her conversion to Christianity which would have been received with terrible derision.

    Alarmingly, Greyland reveals that her parents’ sympathetic views of pedophilia and pederasty had been a public fact for decades, one known particularly among science fiction and fantasy fans who attended fan conferences. Science fiction fans documented Breen’s molestation of at least ten children by 1963, which had only resulted in his temporary exclusion from the largest science fiction fan convention, Worldcon, and was never reported to the police. Breen continued to attend conferences for many years afterward, baiting children he targeted with abuse with various science education gadgets that would attract their attention.

    Greyland writes that Breen was an open member of the “North American Man-Boy Love Association,” and he saw his pederastic proclivities as a natural consequence of his homosexuality. He and Zimmer Bradley jointly published a journal on pederasty and pedophilia, The International Journal of Greek Love, in 1965 and 1966, and Zimmer wrote an article for it treating lesbian pedophilia in a positive manner.

    As awareness grew of Breen’s molestation of children among Berkeley science fiction fans in 1963, a newsletter was published about the problem that came to be called the “Breendoggle,” which openly speculated that Zimmer Bradley was tolerant of Breen’s behavior. However, the truth about Zimmer Bradley’s own sexual abuse of her daughter did not come to light until 2014, when Greyland was asked about her parents’ connection to pedophilia by the blogger and science fiction writer Deirdre Saoirse Moen.

    Greyland’s response, published in Moen’s blog, received heavy coverage by major media outlets worldwide, including The Washington Post, The Guardian, Die Welt, and Entertainment Weekly. Many fans and former acquaintances of Zimmer Bradley denounced her, and some even burned her books.

    “The first time she molested me, I was three. The last time, I was twelve, and able to walk away,” wrote Moira Greyland of her mother.

    “I put Walter in jail for molesting one boy. I had tried to intervene when I was 13 by telling Mother and [Zimmer Bradley’s girlfriend] Lisa, and they just moved him into his own apartment.”

    “I had been living partially on couches since I was ten years old because of the out of control drugs, orgies, and constant flow of people in and out of our family ‘home.'”,,,
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/daughter-of-famed-sci-fi-author-reveals-sexual-horrors-she-suffered-growing

    Also of note, the left thinks that a parade honoring our military is in very bad taste, yet thinks a LGBT parade, featuring naked men, openly simulating if not actually performing lewd acts, and women dressed as vaginas, is a very noble parade.

    “Gay Pride” Parades, Nudity, and Nihilism
    Excerpt: Yet the picture of unity presented by the media belies the controversy over homosexual parades bubbling beneath the surface. Much of this centers around the nudity and simulated sex acts that are staples of such events and the double standard that allows for them in violation of local decency laws. As Peter LaBarbera writes about what he witnessed during Chicago “Pride” parades:

    In 2004, a disgusting gay (oral-anal) sex act that was allowed to go on in the middle of the street (children were seen nearby) — right in front of a row of Chicago cops — involving two guys who were trying to get under the skin of a group of Christian protesters whom the cops were protecting;…
    in 2007, a male transvestite (?) going topless with “his” breasts exposed for block after block as cops and parade organizers did nothing; see: http://americansfortruth.com/n.....arade.html
    lewd acts (e.g., simulated sodomy) and gyrating sexual dances on floats — including one by an apparent lesbian cop who appeared to be drunk or high, riding atop a Chicago PD float;
    a contingent of sadomasochists marching in the parades as they do every year;
    blatant anti-religious and anti-conservative bigotry on display — usually equating Christianity or the Catholic Church with “hate”;
    after the 2007 parade, homosexual “pride” celebrants assaulted two peaceful men giving a Christian street witness in opposition to homosexuality; see http://americansfortruth.com/n.....arade.html;
    a homosexual bathhouse called “Steamworks,” which fields a float every year at the parade. Steamworks is a 24/7 sex club on Halsted Street in Boystown where men go for anonymous sexual liaisons with other men.
    In his article LaBarbera points out that the young often witness the above and asks, “Should children attend lewd ‘Gay Pride’ parades?”

    This also raises another serious question: The clarion call among homosexual activists has long been that they just want to be treated like everyone else. So will the authorities ever grant them their wish? As columnist Joe Warmington wrote in 2009 about Toronto’s homosexual parade:

    “There is frequent nudity and mock sex acts on our main street and that is against the law.”

    — Rev. Charles McVety

    Will there be as many indecent exposure charges handed out this Gay Pride weekend as there will be parking tickets?,,,
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/15886-gay-pride-parades-nudity-and-nihilism

    Might I suggest that the left shaming a military parade that would honor our men in uniform as well as honoring our vets as being in very bad taste, while promoting and even ‘celebrating’ immoral LGBT parades is a sure sign that the left is completely out of touch with mainstream America?

    Romans 1:20-28
    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

  2. 2
    News says:

    bornagain77 at 1: If universities simply championed intellectual freedom, they could invite those people to make a case about their own issues on another day. Their issues have nothing directly to with the controversies that put Ken Ham on the map. But the miasma spreads.

  3. 3
    Dean_from_Ohio says:

    Totalitarians gonna total!

  4. 4
    Seversky says:

    I should say that I agree that this sort of disinvitation or de-platforming is quite wrong. None of the great declarations or charters or bills of human rights include a right not to be offended. Objectionable speech is still free speech and universities are failing in their pedagogical duty to their students by failing to uphold that principle when tested.

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    polistra says:

    The ‘free speech’ stuff in the old constitution was never meaningful. This disinvite violates one of the few pieces of the old constitution that are still occasionally obeyed:

    “No State shall… pass any Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts… “

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    Robocop says:

    BA77, if what you write is true,then this needs to be shouted from the hill tops. Btw, here is the link to the book you mentioned…..

    https://www.amazon.com/Last-Closet-Dark-Side-Avalon-ebook/dp/B0787XLK4H

    It’s long at 600 pages and cost $5.99 on kindle.

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