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Dr. Geisler Weighs in on the YEC Debate

Barry Arrington
February 11, 2014
Intelligent Design
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After seriously pondering these questions for over a half century, my conclusions are: (1) The Young Earth view is not one of the Fundamentals of the Faith. (2) It is not a test for orthodoxy.  (3)  It is not a condition of salvation.  (4)  It is not a test of Christian fellowship. (5) It is not an issue over which the body of Christ should divide. (6) It is not a hill on which we should die. (7) The fact of creation is more important than the time of creation. (8) There are more important doctrines on which we should focus (like the inerrancy of the Bible, the deity of Christ, the Trinity, and the death and resurrection of Christ, and His literal Second Coming.  As Repertus Meldenius (d. 1651) put it: “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty, and in all things charity.” And by all counts, the age of the earth is not one of the essentials of the Christian Faith.

 

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(1) Sez who? (2) Sez who? (3) Really? Is this a fact or an opinion? (4) Who cares? (5) Ah. Father knows best. (6) Melodrama, the Christian currency. (7) The fact? The fact? Wow...such certainty over something the speaker does not actually know. (8) Yes, m'Lord. Whatever you say, m'Lord. Back to the science of ID in 3...2...1...LarTanner
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lifepsy's comment at 7 is perfectly accurate if modified with four additional words: "A particular interpretation of Genesis is in direct conflict with any conventional secular beliefs on Earth history." I take it that lifepsy is not representing himself as an infallible interpreter of Genesis as the literal meaning of his original comment would suggest. Barry Arrington
February 11, 2014
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Genesis is in direct conflict with any conventional secular beliefs on Earth history. One of the obvious reasons being the global flood and how it applies to geology, paleontology, biogeography, etc. Also, the supposed age of the Earth is reportedly one of the main reasons young people turn away from Christianity. So I would question someone claiming it's not an important issue. It's more likely to be one of the most important.lifepsy
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"In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty, and in all things charity." It's reassuring to know that regardless of our differences, charity will continue to be shown to us YEC fundies by our brothers in Christ.awstar
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OldArmy94- Are you saying that their dogma don't hunt? ;)Joe
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"like the inerrancy of the Bible"
Makes me wonder if the fundies ever actually study the entirety of their Bibles.CentralScrutinizer
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Answers in Genesis came to our church recently, and while I do appreciate their fervor and love for God, I think they often times do a disservice to the Kingdom. Rather than acknowledge that good Christians disagree (how many beliefs are there regarding Revelation?), there are some who are dogmatic without having dogma in their corner. Dr. Gisler's teaching is wise and full of good material to ponder.OldArmy94
February 11, 2014
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A 6,000 year old Earth is contrived. And I don't understand why people adhere to it- it (the age of the Earth) is NOT in the Bible, people. You can relax.Joe
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I would agree with him that YEC is not a necessary biblical teaching. Noah's ark is, but a 6,000 year old earth is not.shader
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